GDT: NEW YORK RANGERS WIN NHL DRAFT LOTTERY

[Irishguy42]

Just my 2 cents this morning:

If your 1OA is a LW, he’s a LW. You build your team around that not the other way around.

Pretty much. Not sure he's played C in the Q at all.

 

[duhmetreE]

The Robertson and Jones pucks were especially great. Robertson was considered a first round talent and Jones might be one of the big steals

Oh yeah... Jones

We're stacked with LHD prospects

A stop-gap LHD would be the smart move. Ekholm makes a lot of sense. Edmundson as a UFA can work

 

[NYSPORTS]

Wait...THAT WAS REAL?!

amazing to watch the closeup side of that ping pong ball. We all recognized the logo and said “it ours”. My gosh!!!!

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

ADA’s value is on both the Power Play and Overtime. His meaningful moments do add up.

He was 3rd in scoring by a defenseman at even strength this year.

Any team that wants to categorize him as a PP specialist is probably a pretty shitty team.

 

[NYSPORTS]

He was 3rd in scoring by a defenseman at even strength this year.

Any team that wants to categorize him as a PP specialist is probably a pretty shitty team.

the response was too a poster who felt ADA wouldn’t have valuable minutes defensively so i acknowledged he does more than those minutes which include OT. As far as defensively, the Rangers are a shitty team.

 

[mas0764]

I wouldn't.

No crazy travel schedule prior to rookie season, no learning a new language and hes a better player coming into the league. Hes more physically ready to handle the rigors of the NHL and just from a mental standpoint, he's been ready for this.

I wouldn't play the 2 of them together at ES though. Like it or not, Quinn is going to start him next to Howden or Chytil and on PP2 unless he just forces the issue (and even then, that may still be the case bc Quinning.)

I think 60-70 points in a full season with proper PP time is entirely possible.

I certainly hope you are right. But Kakko had less than half as many points as people thought he would, albeit in a few less games than a full season.

I think if Lafreniere got 50 I'd be ecstatic. If he got 70 that certainly would be Auston Matthews territory (or better).

 

[BKGooner]

Lafreniere should never lace them up in Junior again. The risk/reward just isn't there for a month or two of padding his stats against teenagers so we can oo and ah over his development.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Lafreniere should never lace them up in Junior again. The risk/reward just isn't there for a month or two of padding his stats against teenagers so we can oo and ah over his development.

yeah just make the trip down to NY and train with the people who are still around.

 

[GAGLine]

Lafreniere should never lace them up in Junior again. The risk/reward just isn't there for a month or two of padding his stats against teenagers so we can oo and ah over his development.

I don't think it would be about padding his stats. It would be an opportunity to play hockey and get in game shape after a long layoff, rather than waiting another 2 months. Though if the rule isn't amended, then it won't happen regardless.

 

[LeetchisGod]

I'm still in shock. Kakko last year and Lafreniere this year. I've been a fan since 1988 and I didn't think that I'd ever see us in this position.

 

[mas0764]

Call me greedy but the only way Ottawa is getting that 1OA is for the 3rd, 5th and Tkachuk.

We should not trade that 1OA unless its for a massive overpayment.

That would probably be the only way I do it.

It finishes your rebuild in one swoop.

Elite center? Check. A final top-6 winger? Check. Another LD at 5? Check.

 

[Leetch3]

I don't think it would be about padding his stats. It would be an opportunity to play hockey and get in game shape after a long layoff, rather than waiting another 2 months. Though if the rule isn't amended, then it won't happen regardless.

the Q is targeting a 10/1 start date (OHL & WHL looking at 12/1 apparently). the NHL draft is tentatively scheduled for 10/9. so we aren't talking about months of playing time. its 9 days and he has nothing to gain by it.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

How does Lafreniere compare to Kakko?

Why bother asking? Wont matter what we tell you or what they do.

As long as neither wins a cup theyll both just be losers to you regardless of how good they actually are or how bad the rest of the team is

 

[True Blue]

respectfully disagree.
If you want a well of talent so that in 5 years you can replace a current vet w/somebody fresh/younger/cheaper, at some pt you have to fill that well.

Your "nothing tangible" insinuates value is pissed away for nothing.
Quite the opposite.
It is potential, and that can be signif.
Also often more potential dealt for proven assets, so lots of hits with potential to profit with abundance of riches.

Finally, picks are universal currency. Flexibility.

Just my comments for your reconsideration.

peace out

Having currency in the cap world and trading away a 60 point defenseman or a 50 point center when you are trying to compete is how you get yourself into perpetual rebuilds.

Teams that are looking to compete are looking to bring those types of players in, not ship them out. Gorton is not making those types of deal.

 

[BKGooner]

I don't think it would be about padding his stats. It would be an opportunity to play hockey and get in game shape after a long layoff, rather than waiting another 2 months. Though if the rule isn't amended, then it won't happen regardless.

I was being a little facetious with the stat padding, but I stand by never playing in Junior again. Too many opportunities to damage his future.

 

[ViD]

I'm still in shock. Kakko last year and Lafreniere this year. I've been a fan since 1988 and I didn't think that I'd ever see us in this position.

You also signed the best available free agent who turned into a Hart nominee

 

[bernmeister]

Having currency in the cap world and trading away a 60 point defenseman or a 50 point center when you are trying to compete is how you get yourself into perpetual rebuilds.

Teams that are looking to compete are looking to bring those types of players in, not ship them out. Gorton is not making those types of deal.

Bold, not so, esp when you have younger, cheaper, effective replacements.

 

[True Blue]

I think 60-70 points in a full season with proper PP time is entirely possible.

That is setting yourself up for a lot of disappointment.

 

[True Blue]

Bold, not so, esp when you have younger, cheaper, effective replacements.

Name them.

 

[Avery16]

You also signed the best available free agent who turned into a Hart nominee

Panarin already in the shadow of Laf

 

[Hire Sather]

Having currency in the cap world and trading away a 60 point defenseman or a 50 point center when you are trying to compete is how you get yourself into perpetual rebuilds.

Teams that are looking to compete are looking to bring those types of players in, not ship them out. Gorton is not making those types of deal.

I think there is a fear of Strome being resigned to an unreasonable deal so people want to see him dealt.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

He would not except if there was exceptional chemistry which I wanted them to try, b'c they fit the model:
driver of play -- facilitator -- finisher

with LaF now, that point is moot.
Kreider is still the driver,
while Zib can contribute additionally he fits as facilitator
and LaF is a talented scorer/finisher.

Barring injury, the Nieves experiment is over NOW, but it is over b'c
LaF should play on THAT line, and
value of LaF as finisher with Zib as facilitator
is way greater than
Zib as facilitator with Nieves as facilitator and LaF as sniper elsewhere.

However, betw. then and now, there is zero reason for them not to have tried it.

Yes there was. You just ignored all those reasons. Years after multiple people clearly explained it you still pretend otherwise.

You were wrong.

 

[usekakkorightquinn]

If Lundkvist came over I would say 100% they would move TDA. I don't see the Rangers keeping TDA, Strome or Buchnevich with Lafreniere here now. They are going to have to plan ahead for his contract and Kakko's. That means players like those with major flaws in their games aren't getting good contracts. It's dumb to do that.

 

[True Blue]

I think there is a fear of Strome being resigned to an unreasonable deal so people want to see him dealt.

Then people have unreasonable fears.

 

[Mehar]

Congrats to the fans of the New York Rangers. You will be drafting a very special talent in Alexis Lafreniere. I seen him up close live playing for Canada at the World Junior Hockey Championship, and it was like a Man playing against boys at times. Wish the Leafs could have lucked out and picked First Overall (lol). Anyways, best of luck to him in the Big Apple. A great day for the NY Rangers Franchise.