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The New York Rangers currently have only four prospects playing major junior hockey. This is the lowest number of prospects assigned to the CHL in recent memory and reflects both a switch in drafting tendencies, as well as the fact the Rangers had a combined nine draft picks in 2012 and 2013.



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Mackenzie Skapski, G, Kootenay Ice
Acquired: 6th Round (170th overall) in 2013

Now in his third season as a member of the Ice, Skapski was drafted by the Rangers based upon an excellent 2012-13 campaign. During that season, the Ice were a .500 team during the regular season, with top prospect Sam Reinhart leading the scoring, and Skapski posting seven shutouts.… read more



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The New York Rangers currently have only four prospects playing major junior hockey. This is the lowest number of prospects assigned to the CHL in recent memory and reflects both a switch in drafting tendencies, as well as the fact the Rangers had a combined nine draft picks in 2012 and 2013.



WHL

Mackenzie Skapski, G, Kootenay Ice
Acquired: 6th Round (170th overall) in 2013

Now in his third season as a member of the Ice, Skapski was drafted by the Rangers based upon an excellent 2012-13 campaign. During that season, the Ice were a .500 team during the regular season, with top prospect Sam Reinhart leading the scoring, and Skapski posting seven shutouts.… read more



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"Brady Skjei is the only Rangers' prospect that will participate in the 2014 World Junior Championships in Sweden. "

Takes away the credibility of the "reporting". I Saw a Ranger prospect for team Russia getting 2 assists and 2 penalties today in an 11-0 blowout in Sweden. Or do Russian NYR prospects not count in this forum? Whatever...
 
Brady Skjei is the only Rangers' prospect that will participate in the 2014 World Junior Championships in Sweden.

Incorrect. Buchnevich is also there.
 
BBKers said:
"Brady Skjei is the only Rangers' prospect that will participate in the 2014 World Junior Championships in Sweden. "

Takes away the credibility of the "reporting". I Saw a Ranger prospect for team Russia getting 2 assists and 2 penalties today in an 11-0 blowout in Sweden. Or do Russian NYR prospects not count in this forum? Whatever...
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Exactly !!!
 
4 CHL prospects--Duclair, Graves, Donnay, Skapski. 4 college prospects--Skjei, Nieves, Fogarty, Tambellini. 3 European prospects--Buchnevich, Andersson, Spelling. Not very hard to remember all of that.

Duclair and Graves are probably returning to their CHL teams next year. Donnay's a project who might go back as an overager and is really underweight for his size. Skapski's a really big reach to be a pro.

Skjei--our best amateur prospect--likely turns pro after the 14-15 season. Nieves having an underwheliming year--either after his 14-15 (junior) or 15-16 (senior) season. Tambellini having a so-so start in his freshman year and Fogarty struggling in his sophomore year.

Buchnevich looks pretty good so far but is signed through 14-15 to his KHL team. Andersson doing okay but at least another year or so away and Spelling back home in Denmark playing against weaker competition.

The only one who might turn pro next year is Donnay and he looks more like ECHL fodder than AHL. With virtually no one graduating to the pros next year I expect the Rangers to look hard at CHL and College free agents such as maybe some of those below but probably others as well:

Rangers apparently were interested in CHL free agent Colin Suellentrop a right D for Oshawa earlier this year. Another potentially interesting CHL free agent forward who has been to at least one Rangers development camp is Dane Fox--a kind of Sean Avery style forward who plays for Erie.

As well there are numerous College free agents--Greg Carey and his brother Matt for St. Lawrence U.--(Greg is the big prize)--Ryan Walters--Nebraska-Omaha. Trevor Van Riemsdyk (James' brother) a right side D for New Hampshire U. Anti Oksanen a Boston U. d-man. There are as well a number of College goalies.
 
Jesus, chill out people. Buchnevich was concussed and it was unclear whether he'd play. And if it was just an oversight, big deal. Leslie has more knowledge and credibility than 99% of the people on HF.
 
BBKers said:
"Brady Skjei is the only Rangers' prospect that will participate in the 2014 World Junior Championships in Sweden. "

Takes away the credibility of the "reporting". I Saw a Ranger prospect for team Russia getting 2 assists and 2 penalties today in an 11-0 blowout in Sweden. Or do Russian NYR prospects not count in this forum? Whatever...
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The next time you craft a 5000 word post on contracts and trades that will never happen, you better not make a mistake. If you do, you'll lose all credibility!

/sarcasm
 
I wouldn't call Donnay ECHL fodder. He's having a spectacular year with Erie, but his size seriously concerns me. I hope Clarke has big plans for his frame, he'll get killed at the pro level for only being 185.

Ryan Graves is also having a great season, though his stands out more because he's on a worse team in a better league.

It is worrisome however that we have so few CHL prospects. The ones we have though, are all having good to great years. Definitely need to address that soon.
 
Raspewtin said:
I wouldn't call Donnay ECHL fodder. He's having a spectacular year with Erie, but his size seriously concerns me. I hope Clarke has big plans for his frame, he'll get killed at the pro level for only being 185.

Ryan Graves is also having a great season, though his stands out more because he's on a worse team in a better league.

It is worrisome however that we have so few CHL prospects. The ones we have though, are all having good to great years. Definitely need to address that soon.
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Disagree. The Rangers have done a good job scouting the NCAA and have a lot of talent in the system from there. Fast, Lindberg and Buch represent solid international scouting as well. I want the team picking players based on the player, not on what league they play in.
 
BlueshirtBlitz said:
Disagree. The Rangers have done a good job scouting the NCAA and have a lot of talent in the system from there. Fast, Lindberg and Buch represent solid international scouting as well. I want the team picking players based on the player, not on what league they play in.
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I'm not saying that I'd rather have CHL prospects at the expense of NCAA prospects though. I love how the NCAA boys are coming along. I would just like more representation in the CHL, (which is where I'd rather see players develop, my personal preference). At the end, I'll take good players no matter where they're from.
 
We could use some extra picks in the next 2 drafts to restock the cupboards a bit.
 
BlueshirtBlitz said:
Disagree. The Rangers have done a good job scouting the NCAA and have a lot of talent in the system from there. Fast, Lindberg and Buch represent solid international scouting as well. I want the team picking players based on the player, not on what league they play in.
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...besides Skjei, Nieves, Tambellini and Fogarty which college players do the Rangers have rights to? Skjei looks like the real deal. Nieves somewhat less so. Tambellini's not done a lot in his freshman year and Fogarty is really struggling in his sophomore year. I'm afraid that's it for now.

We have few prospects not already in the pros. Hartford is practically at the bottom of the standings in the AHL. Legit prospects there--Miller ( up with the Rangers now in the AHL 9 points in 8 games) Kristo (20 points in 26 games), Lindberg (12 points in 28 games), Fast (3 points in 5 games and another injury), McIlrath (7 points in 26 games), Allen (11 points in 28 games). Those are the Rangers best prospects. They're not putting up huge numbers for the most part. Hrivik ( 4 goals -10 points in 26 games) is not having a productive year. Neither is Yogan (2 goals and 6 points in 23 games). If these guys were putting up these kinds of numbers at the NHL (not the AHL) level--people would be *****ing how much they stink.

Rangers prospect pool is thin. They need to start building again. We're tapped out on goalies. The closest thing we have to a power forward prospect is Miller. There's no quarterback style defenseman developing for us anywhere. Those are not just organizational needs--apart from the goaltending anyway those are areas that the NHL team is lacking currently.
 
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...besides Skjei, Nieves, Tambellini and Fogarty which college players do the Rangers have rights to? Skjei looks like the real deal. Nieves somewhat less so. Tambellini's not done a lot in his freshman year and Fogarty is really struggling in his sophomore year. I'm afraid that's it for now.
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He said *have done* well scouting, so that means proven players who fulfilled their projections (or exceeded), so that means players like Hagelin, Kreider, McD, Stepan.

Thats three top-6 forwards and a #1 D-man pulled form college. That an above-average crop of NCAA players when you compare NHL rosters.

Boyle was also a NCAA product, but made the NHL before joining the rangers, and Cam Talbot was signed out of a US college program.
 
nikonsniper said:
He said *have done* well scouting, so that means proven players who fulfilled their projections (or exceeded), so that means players like Hagelin, Kreider, McD, Stepan.

Thats three top-6 forwards and a #1 D-man pulled form college. That an above-average crop of NCAA players when you compare NHL rosters.

Boyle was also a NCAA product, but made the NHL before joining the rangers, and Cam Talbot was signed out of a US college program.
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…'have done' being the operative phrase which is great as far as past and present tense. Future tense there's not much there. There's Skjei--maybe Nieves.
 
eco's bones said:
Those are not just organizational needs--apart from the goaltending anyway those are areas that the NHL team is lacking currently.
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Where have we heard this before? By hook or by crook, once again the cupboard is bare. There have been some bad luck (Sauer, Blackburn, Cherniski, Cherapanov). But there has also been asset mismanagement (see Nash trade, Zidlicky) and, as usual, some very weak drafting (not even going to bring up Jessiman). There are many more examples, but the song remains the same.
 
Not about credibility in my opinion. Credible writers make mistakes just like everyone else.
 
True Blue said:
Where have we heard this before? By hook or by crook, once again the cupboard is bare. There have been some bad luck (Sauer, Blackburn, Cherniski, Cherapanov). But there has also been asset mismanagement (see Nash trade, Zidlicky) and, as usual, some very weak drafting (not even going to bring up Jessiman). There are many more examples, but the song remains the same.
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There's some who believe that DZ is our pwp qb. He's hit 40 points once. He's not going to do it this year. He might not even hit 20 this year. There's nobody in development to fall back on. For those who say the last thing we should do is use our 1st this year on a d-man--they should keep that in mind.

Power forwards--Kreider could legitimately be called a power forward. Miller is a bit more questionable but that's where it ends. Size, strength, speed, skill, determination are all elements necessary for a power forward--toughness, ability to fight are bonuses.

If Henrik or Talbot were to get seriously injured--unless the Rangers do a quick fix deal for another goalie--the other guy is going to be picking up the entire slack. It seems Hartford has somewhat stabilized their goalie situation finally by picking up Dov Grumet-Morris--a journeyman AHL'er on an AHL contract because Jason Missaen sucks and the injury prone Scott Stajcer might not be much better. This team is not taking that vital position very seriously. It's the best reason why Hartford is pretty much at the bottom of the AHL standings.

…and we don't have these areas covered and we don't have the luxury of drafting someone who busts. Other teams having much more extensive prospect lists to fall back on do have this luxury.

The Rangers can possibly offset this if they get on the ball and find worthy CHL and College free agents. Just an opinion. But Rangers posters *****ing that we're not getting enough respect in our prospect rankings are really out to lunch IMO.
 
eco's bones said:
There's some who believe that DZ is our pwp qb. He's hit 40 points once. He's not going to do it this year.
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Erixon is having a decent year in AHL, isn' the?
But Rangers posters *****ing that we're not getting enough respect in our prospect rankings are really out to lunch IMO.
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There is a good amount of posters who seem to think that good draft picks only come from drafting early. There is a good amount of quality players that come from drafting late. The Rangers problem under Sather, by and large, is that they whiff on both ends.
 
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