New GM Trades and Signings Part 2

[darrylsittler27]

Nylander will be gone for defense, then sign Tarasenko.

 

[Sypher04]

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Fits in with the other signings, all offense, no D.

These charts have little to no actual value so I’m not overly worried about anyone we’ve signed

 

[the real Fox mulder]

I think we need another two way center who can play on the third and pk.

 

[Sypher04]

I think we need another two way center who can play on the third and pk.

Toews is the guy if he’s healthy and if we can convince him to come at like $1-1.5M max

 

[notbias]

These charts have little to no actual value so I’m not overly worried about anyone we’ve signed

They seem to be pretty accurate with the eye test usually.

I'm not concerned with our signings as our offense dries up and we usually have good D in the playoffs, but if we start signing a bunch of guys who are bad defensively, I will start to worry.

Klingberg, Domi, Reaves, and Bertuzzi are all bad on D, some are terrible (Domi/Klingberg), but they should add a lot more offense and Sammy is one of the best on dangerous chances, so I think these actually end up being good adds.

 

[the real Fox mulder]

Toews is the guy if he’s healthy and if we can convince him to come at like $1-1.5M max

Him or Pius Suter.

 

[cyris]

Why is it people are fascinated by Dumba of all players? A smallish offensive D, who doesn't provide much offense, and not a lot of defense... Like why?

He is a name they recognize. I don’t really want him but if we do get him he has to change his number back to 55

 

[Sypher04]

They seem to be pretty accurate with the eye test usually.

I'm not concerned with our signings as our offense dries up and we usually have good D in the playoffs, but if we start signing a bunch of guys who are bad defensively, I will start to worry.

Klingberg, Domi, Reaves, and Bertuzzi are all bad on D, some are terrible (Domi/Klingberg), but they should add a lot more offense and Sammy is one of the best on dangerous chances, so I think these actually end up being good adds.

They’re a mixed bag at best in terms of accuracy. I also think usage and situation can dramatically impact these kinds of things. Klingberg for example has been a top 4 d for better part of a decade, and while his greatest strength has always been his offense, prior to the last couple years (one being on a terrible Anaheim team) he was never the liability he’s become known as. In fact, Dallas was prepared to give him a 64 million dollar extension. I refuse to believe his defensive game individually just completely imploded and there are other factors at play. Doesn’t mean he’ll work here, but he’s likely worth the gamble and he rebounded nicely defensively in minnesota

 

[Maple Leaf]

Tavares has lost a step clearly and not a $11M player today, but any insinuation he isn’t still a well above average quality 2C is a joke. He needs the right linemates to maximize what he can contribute now, but he’s not hurting us anywhere beyond the cap

Trades tavares for a younger center or a D and a hole at number 2 c

 

[notbias]

They’re a mixed bag at best in terms of accuracy. I also think usage and situation can dramatically impact these kinds of things. Klingberg for example has been a top 4 d for better part of a decade, and while his greatest strength has always been his offense, prior to the last couple years (one being on a terrible Anaheim team) he was never the liability he’s become known as. In fact, Dallas was prepared to give him a 64 million dollar extension. I refuse to believe his defensive game individually just completely imploded.

He was a liability before Anaheim.

 

[Sypher04]

He was a liability before Anaheim.

He had one particular bad year in Dallas, otherwise he wasn’t overly. And he mostly was fine in Minnesota after Anaheim too. He never seemed to mesh in Bowness’ Stars system

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Toews is the guy if he’s healthy and if we can convince him to come at like $1-1.5M max

I think toews is done… he was one of my favorite players but I can only see him as a Winnipeg jet for sentimental reasons

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

What do you guys think of something around Nylander and Lindholm?

Lindholm is 28, a center, and pending UFA with a 4.85M cap hit. He doesn't look like he wants to re-sign in Calgary.

Nylander is 27, a RW, and pending UFA with a 6.96M cap hit. He looks like he wants to cash in with a 9M+ contract.

Nylander is the superior offensive player, and probably wouldn't mind playing in Calgary where he was born and where his father played (assuming they pay him what he wants).

Lindholm is the more well-rounded player and he's a right shot center, who could allow Tavares to move to the wing.

More pieces could be added to make the cap work and to balance the roster, but these two would be the principles.

 

[sxvnert]

C Lindholm, Elias $4,850,000
LD Hanifin, Noah $4,950,000
RD Tanev, Christopher $4,500,000
LD Zadorov, Nikita $3,750,000
Picks & Prospects
$18,050,000 (Ask for 2-3m in retention on one or two players)

RW Nylander, William $6,962,366
LW/RW Järnkrok, Calle $2,400,000
RD Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000
RD Timmins, Conor $1,100,000
G Murray, Matt $4,687,500
Picks & Prospects
$16,549,866
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Bertuzzi Matthews Marner
Knies Lindholm Kane
Domi Tavares Lafferty
Holmberg Kampf Reaves

Rielly Tanev
Hanifin Brodie
McCabe Klingberg
Gio

Samsonov
Woll

 

[cyris]

What do you guys think of something around Nylander and Lindholm?

Lindholm is 28, a center, and pending UFA with a 4.85M cap hit. He doesn't look like he wants to re-sign in Calgary.

Nylander is 27, a RW, and pending UFA with a 6.96M cap hit. He looks like he wants to cash in with a 9M+ contract.

Nylander is the superior offensive player, and probably wouldn't mind playing in Calgary where he was born and where his father played (assuming they pay him what he wants).

Lindholm is the more well-rounded player and he's a right shot center, who could allow Tavares to move to the wing.

More pieces could be added to make the cap work and to balance the roster, but these two would be the principles.

I like Lindholm but if he walks away in a year we are in the same position as if we let Nylander walk away for nothing. But if Lindholm is willing to sign an extension that is much more reasonable than Willy there could be something there

 

[the real Fox mulder]

C Lindholm, Elias $4,850,000
LD Hanifin, Noah $4,950,000
RD Tanev, Christopher $4,500,000
LD Zadorov, Nikita $3,750,000
Picks & Prospects
$18,050,000

RW Nylander, William $6,962,366
LW/RW Järnkrok, Calle $2,400,000
RD Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000
RD Timmins, Conor $1,100,000
G Murray, Matt $4,687,500
Picks & Prospects
$16,549,866
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Bertuzzi Matthews Marner
Knies Lindholm Kane
Domi Tavares Lafferty
Holmberg Kampf Reaves

Rielly Tanev
Hanifin Brodie
McCabe Klingberg
Gio

Samsonov
Woll

what in the holy hell is this?

 

[Fogelhund]

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Official now. $775k... one way. He won't get claimed when he's sent to the Marlies.

 

[kb]

what in the holy hell is this?

It's the worst trade anyone has ever seen.

 

[Avilaj07]

I still think Philadelphia is our best bet when it comes to trading Nylander. They're pretty much willing to give Sanheim away.

To Toronto-
Konecny
Laughton
Sanheim

To Philadelphia-
Nylander
Brodie
Robertson
Lafferty
1st Round Pick

Knies-Matthews-Konecny
Bertuzzi-Tavares-Marner
Domi-Laughton-Jarnkrok
Holmberg-Kampf-Reaves

 

[Mitch nylander]

To finish off this roster I would -

Dump Matt Murray
Trade Timmins for a waiver exempt defence prospect with upside
Aim to sign Sammy to a 2-3 year deal around the 3.5 ball park
Resign Abruzzese.

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NHL Roster

Matthew Knies- Auston Matthews - Mitchell Marner
Tyler Bertuzzi - John Tavares - William Nylander
Nick Robertson - Max Domi - Calle Jarnkrok
Sam Lafferty- David Kampf - Ryan Reaves

Morgan Rielly - TJ Brodie
Jake McCabe - John Klingberg
Mark Giordano - Timothy Liljegren

Ilya Samsonov
Joseph Woll

(Note this depends if we try Domi at C or W, if at W Holmberg is my 3c)

AHL Roster

Nick Abruzzese – Logan Shaw – Alex Steeves
Roni Hirvonen – Pontus Holmberg – Bobby McMann
Ty Voit – Dylan Gambrell – Max Ellis
Kyle Clifford - Braeden Kressler/Grant Cruikshank – Ryan Tverberg/Dmitri Ovchinnikov

William Lagesson – Topi Niemela
Maxime Lajoie – Filip Johansson
Marshall Rifai – William Villeneuve
Mikko Kokkonen/Jonathan Tychonick

Keith Petruzzelli
Dennis Hildeby

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Moves
Matt Murray + 2024 NYI 3rd + 2025 6th for Future Consideration | Anaheim could use a backup to help settle Dostal, and this is a relatively cheap cost to do so.
Conor Timmins to Vancouver for Filip Johansson + 2024 7th | Former 1st round pick with one more year of waiver eligibility. Vancouver gets a solid offensive add.
Ilya Samsonov signed 2 years 3.5k
Nick Abruzzese signed 2 years 800k

 

[I am Canadian]

Tomasino, Fabbro, Trenin and a first for Nylander with extension.

Is that too much from Nashville? Prefer to keep him but I see Nashville as a fit

 

[LeafChief]

Yes but we can pick one of those at TD. We lost Shchen and Muzzin. There is something missing on that backend.

We were talking about the Tampa Bay Lightning. What are you talking about?

 

[Namikaze Minato]

 

[Stephen]

I still think Philadelphia is our best bet when it comes to trading Nylander. They're pretty much willing to give Sanheim away.

To Toronto-
Konecny
Laughton
Sanheim

To Philadelphia-
Nylander
Brodie
Robertson
Lafferty
1st Round Pick

Knies-Matthews-Konecny
Bertuzzi-Tavares-Marner
Domi-Laughton-Jarnkrok
Holmberg-Kampf-Reaves

Why would Toronto give up more and better stuff in a trade with Philadelphia?

 

[thinkblue]