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Lost Horizons

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I was going through some vhs tapes(!) and on a mix tape from 01 or 02 there I had a copy of the Phil Esposito retirement ceremony that they replayed on the show Nesn Fan Attic. What a throw back. Gotta love the clock as a gift:laugh: Why don't they have a show like this on nesn anymore? Seriously. They have vaults of this stuff why don't they show it? Do we really need an 8hr marathon of Dining Playbook with Billy & Jenny?
 
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I was going through some vhs tapes(!) and on a mix tape from 01 or 02 there I had a copy of the Phil Esposito retirement ceremony that they replayed on the show Nesn Fan Attic. What a throw back. Gotta love the clock as a gift:laugh: Why don't they have a show like this on nesn anymore? Seriously. They have vaults of this stuff why don't they show it? Do we really need an 8hr marathon of Dining Playbook with Billy & Jenny?

The short answer is Tom Werner.

NESN was a better station when John Harrington controlled it.
 

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NESN's got the potential to create amazing programming. There's years and years of NESN coverage of the Bruins and Patriots. NESN's covered the Bruins since 1983, and the Sox since 1984. That's 67 seasons worth of old material. Now, I'm sure there are rules/standards about showing old games - they don't want to step on toes. Just how NBC doesn't actively counter-program NFL games on Sunday afternoon. And they won't have every game readily available in their library - particularly the playoffs.

Heck, I'd bet dollars to donuts the league doesn't allow them to show old games. In the winter, if you're not watching the Bruins on NESN, the NHL wants you to watch whatever game's on NHLN or NBCSN or Center Ice...not relive the past Bruins games.

I agree, though, that it seems so easy to create good ideas for programming. I mean, you could easily Buzzfeed the network and make tons of "10 greatest/worst X" type programming. The 10 best Sox pitchers. The 10 greatest Bruins games. The 10 best outfielders of the 80s. The 10 most controversial Bruins calls (all of which happened post-2014, of course).

I mean, I'm not sure I'd watch it. I don't do sports radio, and I only watch the actual games on NESN. But I can't help but think that the audience for those ideas would more closely align with the average NESN viewer than "Fishing with Idiots", "Eating with Idiots", "Idiots Drinking Alot", and "Idiots Driving Cars".
 

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NESN's got the potential to create amazing programming. There's years and years of NESN coverage of the Bruins and Patriots. NESN's covered the Bruins since 1983, and the Sox since 1984. That's 67 seasons worth of old material. Now, I'm sure there are rules/standards about showing old games - they don't want to step on toes. Just how NBC doesn't actively counter-program NFL games on Sunday afternoon. And they won't have every game readily available in their library - particularly the playoffs.

Heck, I'd bet dollars to donuts the league doesn't allow them to show old games. In the winter, if you're not watching the Bruins on NESN, the NHL wants you to watch whatever game's on NHLN or NBCSN or Center Ice...not relive the past Bruins games.

I agree, though, that it seems so easy to create good ideas for programming. I mean, you could easily Buzzfeed the network and make tons of "10 greatest/worst X" type programming. The 10 best Sox pitchers. The 10 greatest Bruins games. The 10 best outfielders of the 80s. The 10 most controversial Bruins calls (all of which happened post-2014, of course).

I mean, I'm not sure I'd watch it. I don't do sports radio, and I only watch the actual games on NESN. But I can't help but think that the audience for those ideas would more closely align with the average NESN viewer than "Fishing with Idiots", "Eating with Idiots", "Idiots Drinking Alot", and "Idiots Driving Cars".

Bruins can show old games with no restrictions. Toronto does it all the time.

http://mlse.digital/leafs/pdf/LeafsTVGrid_schedule.pdf


They 'could' easily put lots of games on a server and just run them on NESN plus if they wanted to be creative. The harsh reality is NESN makes a lot of money running infomercials. NESN is by far the most valuable and profitable media outlet in New England ( not counting ESPN or NBCSN ) thanks to subscriber fees.
 

DarrenBanks56

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i hear you. id love the old games. from 88-94 would be be awesome to watch again.
dafoomie has some good vids taken from the nhl network classic series and some old nesn feeds.

alson on youtube. i just found these 2 sweet bruins season videos. reach for the stars 1990 and black and gold glory 1988. uploaded by the user pete winston.
 

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TV is becoming obsolete for almost everything besides live events anyway.

Put the games on demand or make them all available online and call it a day.
 

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Wouldn't you rather watch the Mad Fisherman snag 4 inch bass from a local pond?

But you get to have Christmas with the Moore's.

I love Bruins Academy and Charlie is behind that
 

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I'm still surprised they at least don't do biography shows on old players like the YES network does for Yankees players with Yankeeography. It's a joke that NBC had to do a bio on Derek Sanderson and Nesn has done nothing like that for any player to wear the b's uniform. Would have been neat for a Milt Schmidt in his on words type show but nope more Dining Playbook for all!
 

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I'm still surprised they at least don't do biography shows on old players like the YES network does for Yankees players with Yankeeography. It's a joke that NBC had to do a bio on Derek Sanderson and Nesn has done nothing like that for any player to wear the b's uniform. Would have been neat for a Milt Schmidt in his on words type show but nope more Dining Playbook for all!

Bruins aren't majority owned, they're a minority holder in NESN
 

Lost Horizons

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Bruins aren't majority owned, they're a minority holder in NESN

in the past they've aired plenty of old games. They could easily do a series like I described but choose not to.

they have Nesnplus that basically has a place holder card on there most of the time.
 

talkinaway

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in the past they've aired plenty of old games. They could easily do a series like I described but choose not to.

they have Nesnplus that basically has a place holder card on there most of the time.

NESN + IS THE OVERFLOW Channel though

Yes, this is true, and brings up a few points.

First, NESN+ isn't carried everywhere at all times. For example, they don't list a channel number for BU's cable system, meaning Charlie McAvoy's buds wouldn't get to see him play preseason games on NESN+. I know firsthand FiOS has a dedicated placeholder channel, but I don't know about other cable systems. It's entirely possible that some smaller cable systems just take a 3-4 hour chunk out of a government access channel (Wayne's World, party time!) to air NESN+.

Second, they use NESN+ very sparingly. If you go on their "NESN+" page where they list the conflicts, you don't need to scroll down that far until you hit "2 years ago". It's mostly for when Bruins/Sox overlap in preseason B's/playoff push Sox in September, and early season Sox games/first round playoff Bruins in April, with an occasional college football/basketball game tossed in.

Programming NESN+ 24/7, or even 12/7 plus infomercials, could be expensive to produce. Even if your programming model is to just "hit play" on old Bruins and Sox games (and let's not kid ourselves, it'd be old Sox games), you still have to sell ads...and you risk cannibalizing the main network.

Also, old sports games are very DVRable. That means the ads gets skipped. Advertisers know this, and pay a premium to advertise on "event programming" like live sports games.
 

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NESN has a philosophy that programming must break even and this has been in place since the Sox Appeal disaster.

Over the course of the year infomercial revenue is over a million dollars because they can say they deliver to over 3 million homes. That money goes a long way to cover expenses in Watertown.
 

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