Speculation: Nemec not happy with the Devils?

[Jersey Fresh]

I don’t think he’s necessarily wrong in that the devils were probably hoping Nemec would be ready now for their contender window. Trading him for down the roads picks or prospects is like the opposite of the Meier trade.

He was penciled on the roster to come into the season. Unfortunately for him, he got injured to start the season and was never right when he got back. Only the last few weeks has his play picked up in the AHL and the guy that replaced him has continued to play very well.

Just a victim of circumstance - where Nemec fits moving forward hasn’t changed.

 

[Forge]

yeah but a second overall in the A after D+3 will bring back a boatload without having proven anything at the NHL level? they are both AHL all stars...

He was very good in the NHL last year, so I'd be content to just keep him rather than trade him in a reactionary move because he had some down play following an injury.

 

[Freaky Styley]

Neutral fan. Have kept a close eye on Nemec because I owned him in a dynasty league ('owned' being the operative word.

Was a huge fan of Nemec in his D-1 and draft year. Had minimal viewing since, but caught some games at the end of last season and liked what I was seeing. Traded for him in the offseason assuming he'd have a shot in a top 4 role.

Obviously Devils sign Pesce and acquire Kovacevic and Nemec couldn't win a spot, gets sent down to work on his game.

Most concerning thing for me is just by Utica Comets highlight, Nemec seems to have many more low-lights than highlights of his own, without even looking for it. I'm sure the coaching staff wanted him to focus on his D game, and it's clear he hasn't improved there. Some more red flags with his skating, lack of physicality or any physical tools to really separate him. His offensive IQ is his best trait

Most concerning thing for a guy like that is that if you're not going to be defensively responsible you're not going to win a NHL coach's trust. He's trending in the wrong direction and I think it's more likely he ends up in bust territory than a top-pairing guy. I think right now at best you need to hope for is him committing to the D game which is not impossible if his effort is there, and maybe that comes after a change of scenery. Then I could see him in a top 4 role, but I wouldn't count on it. His skating will really hold him back.

Would be happy to eat crow if I'm wrong. But big buyer beware here IMO. I'd bet most fans will be surprised at the relative lack of value he'll hold in a trade.

 

[HabsAddict]

Just a bit of reality....

Whatever the Devil fans (or any fan of any team) think he's worth will get thrown out a 100 story window the moment Nemec is unhappy and wants to be traded.

The next reality...is he improving in the AHL? Don't assume he is. I'm not saying he isn't, but progression is never a straight line so don't assume he is...or he's not.

 

[Xirik]

Just a bit of reality....

Whatever the Devil fans (or any fan of any team) think he's worth will get thrown out a 100 story window the moment Nemec is unhappy and wants to be traded.

The next reality...is he improving in the AHL? Don't assume he is. I'm not saying he isn't, but progression is never a straight line so don't assume he is...or he's not.

how about taking a minute to look and see if he's improving?

 

[ColbyChaos]

Glad to see folks here coming to grips with the fact it was kinda ridiculous to think hed be the centerpiece of a hypothetically b tkachuk trade.

If he were moved today he probably gets moved in a hockey trade with another underperforming player. Think like a poor mans middlestadt in return

Trolling is as bad as your team

 

[Smitty426]

Just a bit of reality....

Whatever the Devil fans (or any fan of any team) think he's worth will get thrown out a 100 story window the moment Nemec is unhappy and wants to be traded.

The next reality...is he improving in the AHL? Don't assume he is. I'm not saying he isn't, but progression is never a straight line so don't assume he is...or he's not.

He didn't say he wanted out and 10 pts in last 5 games in Utica. Holes in your post

 

[StlBill]

Adam Jiricek (16th overall RHD in 24 draft), Brandon Saad with 50% retention, and 2026 1st from the Blues for Nemec.

Got to give to get and he’s pals with Divorsky. Fits the timeline of a Blues core just now starting to come into the league (Snuggerud, Divorsky, Stenberg, Lindstein).

2 1sts and a useful veteran winger with cup pedigree is good for a win now team. Jiricek fits their timeline if they re-sign Kovasevic.

 

[Freaky Styley]

He didn't say he wanted out and 10 pts in last 5 games in Utica. Holes in your post

Go watch the highlights of the games with his points, and others. Many of those points won't be points in the NHL and many of the chances/goals against his team come with him on the ice.

 

[Smitty426]

Go watch the highlights of the games with his points, and others. Many of those points won't be points in the NHL and many of the chances/goals against his team come with him on the ice.

I have better things to do.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

Do you really think Nemec is being trade for a "poor man's Mittelstadt"? Not to mention if Brady Tkachuk was made available how many teams would be able to put out a better headliner than Nemec? He even implied earlier in the convo that his value was similar to Kakko's in a trade.

If you can't see that he's trolling, then that's on you.

You cant be serious that you think if brady tkachuk was made available that there arent many teams that could top a package with the headline being nemec

More than Will f***ing Borgen lol

Borgen likely to be flipped for a 2nd and 4th at the TDL.

So ultimately Kakko gets moved for a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 6th.

 

[Freaky Styley]

I have better things to do.

like making uninformed claims

 

[McDuffz88]

You cant be serious that you think if brady tkachuk was made available that there arent many teams that could top a package with the headline being nemec


Borgen likely to be flipped for a 2nd and 4th at the TDL.

So ultimately Kakko gets moved for a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 6th.

If NJ offered a package of Nemec/1st/Mercer there's not a team in the league who would be able to top that and if they did they would be straight up gutting themselves. As far as Kakko goes, Nemec would get a far better return. It wouldn't even be a comparison. Idk how Kakko was brought up but whoever did is delusional in thinking they have similar value.

 

[AirGut]

Thinkin he might fetch a Jiricek or Nils Lundkvist type return if the Devs are lucky.

 

[Smitty426]

like making uninformed claims

10 pts 5 games, blowme

 

[SEALBound]

Has Boeser been discussed yet? Extended Boeser for Nemec? Seems like that fits with what both sides may want? Especially if Vancouver moves Miller and/or EP.

 

[Kryten]

Demko is one awkward kick save away from permanent ltir

The Vancouver to Jersey goalie pipeline must continue

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Has Boeser been discussed yet? Extended Boeser for Nemec? Seems like that fits with what both sides may want? Especially if Vancouver moves Miller and/or EP.

No interest

 

[Jersey Fresh]

You cant be serious that you think if brady tkachuk was made available that there arent many teams that could top a package with the headline being nemec


Borgen likely to be flipped for a 2nd and 4th at the TDL.

So ultimately Kakko gets moved for a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 6th.

Good luck with that.

 

[MakoSlade]

Glad to see folks here coming to grips with the fact it was kinda ridiculous to think hed be the centerpiece of a hypothetically b tkachuk trade.

If he were moved today he probably gets moved in a hockey trade with another underperforming player. Think like a poor mans middlestadt in return

You can't be Serious!

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

If NJ offered a package of Nemec/1st/Mercer there's not a team in the league who would be able to top that and if they did they would be straight up gutting themselves. As far as Kakko goes, Nemec would get a far better return. It wouldn't even be a comparison. Idk how Kakko was brought up but whoever did is delusional in thinking they have similar value.

LOL respectfully disagree as the rangers alone would crush that package with something like Perreault, 1st, Laff. Nemec isnt even close to as valued as you guys believe

 

[BHD]

Whose spot is he taking?

 

[Jerzey Devil]

LOL respectfully disagree as the rangers alone would crush that package with something like Perreault, 1st, Laff. Nemec isnt even close to as valued as you guys believe

It would be hilarious to see the Rags sacrifice their future for a package like this and then have Brady walk away in free agency in a couple of years because they have no future. It would be a very Rags move.

 

[StlBigFly]

Look at what jiricek got ina trade and that's about his value they both have had a similar path post draft.

I’d suggest potentially; substantially higher ask.

The difference between 2OA and 6 is more than 1 first round pick on the draft floor. That value may persist.

I could see njd demand the equivalent of 3 firsts versus Jirichek’s 2. Or that they’d be able to extract a much higher grade prospect than Jirichek's trade delivered

 

[ninetyeight]

Go watch the highlights of the games with his points, and others. Many of those points won't be points in the NHL and many of the chances/goals against his team come with him on the ice.

Are we talking about the first 10 games or the last, because he looks like a completely different player. He leads the team in plusminus when most of the other players are well into the negative side.