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Meh. Add in the time value of money, and it’s a stupid decision, IMO.

Very puzzling amount over the initial 10 years…I guess he could be making his real $ on endorsements those years, ultimately banking the deferred money?

Something sure seems wrong about the system that allows this though….
 
Could easily be fixed if MLB can get the union to agree to a CBA that states the AAV for any given year can't deviate by more than x% of the actual yearly average dollar amount if calculated at equal amounts per year.

ie maybe 25% either way so a 10M/5yr contract can't be more than $2.5M/yr or less than $1.5M/yr.

If that's not flexible enough then maybe up to 50%, but surely not this current nonsense.
 
Very puzzling amount over the initial 10 years…I guess he could be making his real $ on endorsements those years, ultimately banking the deferred money?
Yeah I read somewhere that he made $40 mil on endorsements last season so that obviously makes this easier to understand.

He wants to win and he is showing it. You’d certainly never see Kirk Cousins leaving a dime on the table in order to win so I appreciate it.

But from a luxury tax standpoint with MLB this certainly seems like a loophole that they need to find a way to close.
 
Wonder what effect the Wizards moving into Alexandria will have. I haven't been to a game - or even watched one - in probably 30 years, so I have no context or awareness on the fan base.
 
wizards already got invaded by opposing fans and have no future

it might make it worse. but we'll see what happens in 2027
 
Very puzzling amount over the initial 10 years…I guess he could be making his real $ on endorsements those years, ultimately banking the deferred money?

Something sure seems wrong about the system that allows this though….
This is sort my thought that being in LA man the entertainment capital of the world. That said the overall amount...a wonder if the natural less value of the cash money factors in the high amount.
 
This lays it out…



Per the terms of his deal, Ohtani won’t take interest on the deferrals, which means the present day value of his $700 million contract is around $460 million.

The massive deferrals were Ohtani’s idea, according to a person in the player’s camp. He proposed the unique structure when he was far into negotiations with the Dodgers, as a way to lessen their payroll obligation and allow the team to sign additional players around him.
The deferrals will result in tax benefits for Ohtani himself, according to a person familiar with his negotiations. During the first 10 years, he will be subject to state income taxes on his annual $2 million salary in California and other states where the Dodgers play. But by the time he starts receiving the $68 million payments, he may be able to avoid state income taxes by living someplace like Florida without an income tax, or by moving back to Japan.
 
This lays it out…



Per the terms of his deal, Ohtani won’t take interest on the deferrals, which means the present day value of his $700 million contract is around $460 million.

The massive deferrals were Ohtani’s idea, according to a person in the player’s camp. He proposed the unique structure when he was far into negotiations with the Dodgers, as a way to lessen their payroll obligation and allow the team to sign additional players around him.
The deferrals will result in tax benefits for Ohtani himself, according to a person familiar with his negotiations. During the first 10 years, he will be subject to state income taxes on his annual $2 million salary in California and other states where the Dodgers play. But by the time he starts receiving the $68 million payments, he may be able to avoid state income taxes by living someplace like Florida without an income tax, or by moving back to Japan.
Well well that lays it out. Pretty savvy by Ohtani. It is the American way to avoid taxes in any way shape for form.
 
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Well well that lays it out. Pretty savvy by Ohtani. It is the American way to avoid taxes in any way shape for form.

Admittedly, I'm not a tax accountant, but I believe you are taxed based on where the income is earned rather than where you live (unless you happen to live in a region with reciprocity like DC/Maryland/Virginia).
 
Admittedly, I'm not a tax accountant, but I believe you are taxed based on where the income is earned rather than where you live (unless you happen to live in a region with reciprocity like DC/Maryland/Virginia).
He’s earning it (getting paid) 10 years later….he’s getting taxed then on $68 mil, not before he ever receives it. I’m pretty sure his lawyers have it figured out.
 
Admittedly, I'm not a tax accountant, but I believe you are taxed based on where the income is earned rather than where you live (unless you happen to live in a region with reciprocity like DC/Maryland/Virginia).
It's where you live, unless your work is such that you clearly live there, iirc.

Otherwise every single company would incorporate in tax-free Delaware and nobody would pay any taxes.
 
Wiz surrender 140+ yet again
I frankly am a bit shocked that Ted is moving the Wizards. Nobody in Northern VA gives a shit about them and most of the fanbase is in DC or MD. With how bad they’ve been and how bad they’re going to be for a while it’s going to take something or someone special to rebuild any type of fanbase for the franchise.

Seems like Ted’s priorities here are what’s best for Ted then the Caps then the fans and the Wiz are just along for the ride.
 
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I frankly am a bit shocked that Ted is moving the Wizards. Nobody in Northern VA gives a shit about them and most of the fanbase is in DC or MD. With how bad they’ve been and how bad they’re going to be for a while it’s going to take something or someone special to rebuild any type of fanbase for the franchise.

Seems like Ted’s priorities here are what’s best for Ted then the Caps then the fans and the Wiz are just along for the ride.

The NBA has revenue sharing among the teams so orgs like the Wiz can just piggyback on the successful teams. He's guaranteed to receive at least the full amount of the salary cap every year so it's basically a free ride barring other expenses.

This is a once in a lifetime thing like the lockout where he's probably going for the brass ring and working out the fan retention details later. It may even coincide with another firesale so ripping the band aid off all at once might be the plan.


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He's not hurting for capital
 
Revenue sharing + market size + arena ownership makes the team and attendance success almost irrelevant.
When you charge more to stream games online $20 a month or $200 season pass to watch games for the locals. The stubhub prices for Wizards games are cheaper to watch live then it is to buy his streaming package.

If the future of sports is a TV show I can see what Ted is thinking. Sucks Bowser couldnt make it happen in DC.

*and everything I hear about his app is bad and glitches alot
 
Nats and O's agreed on rights fees covering the 2017-2021 seasons. Without another several years of court battles! An arbitration panel last summer decided on $304 million as the amount each team would receive from MASN. The Nats, thinking that the Orioles would challenge that ruling, filed a petition arguing for it to be confirmed. Instead the Orioles didn't fight it (at least not publicly.)

An interesting observation is the below article, that it could be the teams have reasons for wanting this settled instead of floating out there. We know the Nats have been for sale, but they aren't "compromising" on this agreement, it's what the panel ruled. Interesting that the Orioles didn't fight it, given how they've behaved in recent (and not so recent) years.

Both [Marty] Conway and [Dan] Wallach, the sports law attorney, found it notable how quickly the teams compromised after a decade of contention. It could indicate other business factors pressuring one or both teams to avoid litigation.


Since 2011, the two beltway teams have fought over MASN revenues — which has made, for example, a potential sale of either team to be challenging. Without litigation, a sale would likely be easier.


“You can now get a much cleaner look at a valuation for these teams,” Conway said. “Is that a coincidence? Maybe, but maybe there’s also some intentionality about clearing these things up.”

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