Prospect Info: My Top 20 Hab Prospects List (Updated #538)

[BenchBrawl]

My Top 15, mostly on gut feeling:

1. Logan Mailloux
2. Owen Beck
3. Joshua Roy
4. Adam Engstrom
5. Lane Hutson
6. Emil Heineman
7. Filip Mesar
8. Cayden Primeau
9. Jayden Struble
10. Sean Farrell
11. Justin Barron
12. Jakub Dobes
13. Vincent Rohrer
14. William Trudeau
15. Jesse Ylonen

Updating from last December: (Barron/Ylonen graduated)

1. Logan Mailloux
2. Adam Engstrom
3. Joshua Roy
4. David Reinbacher
5. Emil Heineman
6. Lane Hutson
7. Owen Beck
8. Jakub Dobes
9. Jayden Struble
10. Sean Farrell
11. Jacob Fowler
12. William Trudeau
13. Filip Mesar

 

[BenchBrawl]

Top 15 of the most NHL-ready prospects or with the most value ?

A mix of both.

 

[montreal]

Took me longer this year so I could see a few more Reinbacher games as he's given me a lot of trouble trying to figure out. and since the vids take hours to make I cut the list down to 15. I left out Heineman since he hasn't played all year, Miller, Tourigny and Mittelstadt since I haven't seen them play live yet as they wouldn't make the top 15 anyway most likely.



Top 15

1. Lane Hutson
2. Joshua Roy
3. Logan Mailloux
4. Adam Engstrom
5. David Reinbacher
6. Sean Farrell
7. Jacob Fowler
8. Owen Beck
9. Bogdan Konyuskov
10. Florian Xhekaj
11. Filip Mesar
12. Jayden Struble
13. Yevgeni Volokhin
14. Luke Tuch
15. William Trudeau


HM - Kidney, Dobes, Kapanen, Guindon, Simoneau, Pitlick

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Took me longer this year so I could see a few more Reinbacher games as he's given me a lot of trouble trying to figure out. and since the vids take hours to make I cut the list down to 15. I left out Heineman since he hasn't played all year, Miller, Tourigny and Mittelstadt since I haven't seen them play live yet as they wouldn't make the top 15 anyway most likely.



Top 15

1. Lane Hutson
2. Joshua Roy
3. Logan Mailloux
4. Adam Engstrom
5. David Reinbacher
6. Sean Farrell
7. Jacob Fowler
8. Owen Beck
9. Bogdan Konyuskov
10. Florian Xhekaj
11. Filip Mesar
12. Jayden Struble
13. Yevgeni Volokhin
14. Luke Tuch
15. William Trudeau


HM - Kidney, Dobes, Kapanen, Guindon, Simoneau, Pitlick

Interesting that you have Tuch over Kidney. Kidney definitely has the higher ceiling, is it just Tuch having a more projectable role on the team as a 4th liner?

 

[montreal]

Interesting that you have Tuch over Kidney. Kidney definitely has the higher ceiling, is it just Tuch having a more projectable role on the team as a 4th liner?

Kidney has higher upside but we see how he's struggling physically in the AHL as he's easily pushed off pucks, isn't a great skater, big or strong. He's got a lot of work to do, Tuch if he gets back to crashing and banging could be what we hoped McCarron would be to some degree.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Took me longer this year so I could see a few more Reinbacher games as he's given me a lot of trouble trying to figure out. and since the vids take hours to make I cut the list down to 15. I left out Heineman since he hasn't played all year, Miller, Tourigny and Mittelstadt since I haven't seen them play live yet as they wouldn't make the top 15 anyway most likely.



Top 15

1. Lane Hutson
2. Joshua Roy
3. Logan Mailloux
4. Adam Engstrom
5. David Reinbacher
6. Sean Farrell
7. Jacob Fowler
8. Owen Beck
9. Bogdan Konyuskov
10. Florian Xhekaj
11. Filip Mesar
12. Jayden Struble
13. Yevgeni Volokhin
14. Luke Tuch
15. William Trudeau


HM - Kidney, Dobes, Kapanen, Guindon, Simoneau, Pitlick

Wow all that work and that's what you came up with and created ?







That's quality work as always.

 

[Goldenhands]

Took me longer this year so I could see a few more Reinbacher games as he's given me a lot of trouble trying to figure out. and since the vids take hours to make I cut the list down to 15. I left out Heineman since he hasn't played all year, Miller, Tourigny and Mittelstadt since I haven't seen them play live yet as they wouldn't make the top 15 anyway most likely.



Top 15

1. Lane Hutson
2. Joshua Roy
3. Logan Mailloux
4. Adam Engstrom
5. David Reinbacher
6. Sean Farrell
7. Jacob Fowler
8. Owen Beck
9. Bogdan Konyuskov
10. Florian Xhekaj
11. Filip Mesar
12. Jayden Struble
13. Yevgeni Volokhin
14. Luke Tuch
15. William Trudeau


HM - Kidney, Dobes, Kapanen, Guindon, Simoneau, Pitlick

As far as the defensemen are concerned, I would personally rank them that way:

1-Reinbacher
2-Engstrom
3-Konyuskov
4-Hutson
5-Mailloux
6-Struble

Hutson is fun to watch in the NCAA, but struggling on the defensive end. The defensive side of his game will be even more exposed as he reaches the pros. So what do we get at that point, a third pairing defenseman and PP specialist? Hard to justify ranking him higher than Reinbacher, Engstrom who are much more complete IMO.

Im not too concerned about Reinbacher's slow start in the NL, which is a very good pro league played on big ices. Kid battled through some knees issues as well. I watched him last sunday and looked great.

As for the fowards, they are harder to rank for me. Roy has slowed down quite a bit lately and his differential among the worst on the team. Heineman injured, Mesar tearing up the OHL ect.

I think Owen Beck is the safest bet, but his celling probably limited to a third line role and PKer. So I would tend to rank Mesar higher who I believe has the tools for a top 6 role after some seasoning.

I didnt watch Laval much, but Farrell had a tough camp, the lack of explosiveness and strength at that size is concerning.

I would have a hard time ranking one of the fowards over our top D prospects personally.

As for the goaltenders, I think both Fowler and Volokhin could end up as potential steals, Volokhin has the biggest frame and moves quite well.

Overall, I think thats a pretty hard group to rank and pretty underrated prospects pool. I like that we have some potential homerun picks.

 

[26Mats]

Took me longer this year so I could see a few more Reinbacher games as he's given me a lot of trouble trying to figure out. and since the vids take hours to make I cut the list down to 15. I left out Heineman since he hasn't played all year, Miller, Tourigny and Mittelstadt since I haven't seen them play live yet as they wouldn't make the top 15 anyway most likely.



Top 15

1. Lane Hutson
2. Joshua Roy
3. Logan Mailloux
4. Adam Engstrom
5. David Reinbacher
6. Sean Farrell
7. Jacob Fowler
8. Owen Beck
9. Bogdan Konyuskov
10. Florian Xhekaj
11. Filip Mesar
12. Jayden Struble
13. Yevgeni Volokhin
14. Luke Tuch
15. William Trudeau


HM - Kidney, Dobes, Kapanen, Guindon, Simoneau, Pitlick

Very bold top 15 having Roy, Mailloux, and Engstrom ahead of Reinbacher.

You must really not like the pick now.

 

[Ezpz]

I think Xhekaj top ten is much bolder.

 

[montreal]

Very bold top 15 having Roy, Mailloux, and Engstrom ahead of Reinbacher.

You must really not like the pick now.

I have concerns with what I'm seeing with Reinbacher and I have lots of questions about his game that still need answers and those answers take time. By the end of the year, I will have likely seen every game or close to it (so far I only missed the 1st when he got the empty netter)

But it's close as Mailloux is doing better offensively then I thought he would at this point but the defense has been very concerning, as I thought it would be but by the end of the year i hope to see decent progress there. So for now I put him higher cause his offensive skills could be higher then I think and that could be very good news for us if so.

Engstrom I had at 5 flipped with Reinbacher but every time I watch Engstrom I like what I see and with Reinbacher it's much tougher as the games suck to watch mostly and he has had his struggles.

Unlike Norlinder who was always a boom or bust kind of prospect because with his D being weak part of his game, it puts all the pressure on the offense so if he doesn't produce he's shit. Engstrom is more like the kind of does just about everything well and most things really well but I still have doubts about just how good the offense is so I suspect by the end of the year Reinbacher will be higher but we'll see how it unfolds.

I think Xhekaj top ten is much bolder.

I didn't care for the pick at the time but to be fair I did only see him 1 game and I thought he looked slow as shit and not very good at hockey. Whoever thought to put him at center COULD be on to something really smart as you are talking about a big kid that at least so far is impressing at center. I thought he would suck at draws and defensively like when someone came up with the really bad idea to move Scherbak to center after he came back mid season from his 2nd major injury in 6 months and put him at center as it was ugly.

But Xhekaj in the games i've seen which is likely around a little more then half, he's done well on draws and while he's not fast as he doesn't always move his feet but once he gets going he can get there quicker then expected. He's also seemed to have very quickly smartened up as he was getting in too much trouble with the refs and now he's playing a smart game. Not as physical but still can crush people with big hits.

He's shown decent hands which has surprised me although his brother can shoot it so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. So what you could be looking at is something between Milan Lucic to Mike McCarron. You have a 6'4 center that goes to the front of the net and is a royal pain to move and won't take any shit either. If he can just work on the speed, you could really have something there. Even if he never makes it above the 4th line, he could end up being very valuable on a playoff team down the road.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Kapanen still not getting enough love. He'll have a long career in the NHL. He does all the little things coaches love and has better wheels than Roy, Kidney and many of our other forwards in his age range.

 

[Ezpz]

Kapanen still not getting enough love. He'll have a long career in the NHL. He does all the little things coaches love and has better wheels than Roy, Kidney and many of our other forwards in his age range.

He has to show something first. He's doesn't have a large frame and he's regressed offensively. He's competing with guys like tuch, beck and Xhekaj for bottom six roles in the future.

 

[DinosaurBones]

Such a deep pool that I more so have groups in my own personal opinion. What I think they could be (by no means do I think they all will get to this point, and some could even surpass):

1. Lane Hutson (1-2 pair 60pt QB)

2. Josh Roy (2nd line utility 60ish pt guy)
3. David Reinbacher (1-2 pair 2way 40pt guy)

4. Logan Mailloux (2 pair, sheltered defensively, PP bomb, 15G guy)
5. Jacob Fowler (Potential starter)

6. Owen Beck (Bottom 6, huge utility)
7. Adam Engstrom (3rd pair, 2pair reliable)
8. Sean Farrell (Top 9, Offensive flashes)
9. Bogdan Konyushkov (Questions still but I think this guy has an elite ceiling)

10. Emil Heinemen (3rd line, nice body, good positioning, nice shot)
11. Filip Mesar (2nd line skill, needs to get there)
12. Jayden Struble (3rd pair, PK)
13. William Trudeau (very solid depth D)
14. Riley Kidney (3rd line skill, needs to get there)
15. Luke Tuch (fourth line body

16. Oliver Kapanen (call up depth guy, good instinct player)
17. Jakub Dobes/Yevgeni Volokhin/Quinten Miller (couldnt even tell ya)
18. Xavier Simoneau (4th line/depth workhorse)
19. Jared Davidson (4th line/depth workhorse)
20. Mattias Norlinder/Miguel Tourigny (depth D)

These literally change way too often and are again just my opinion. Need to add an elite forward to this mix. I bet half these guys play on different teams also.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

As far as the defensemen are concerned, I would personally rank them that way:

1-Reinbacher
2-Engstrom
3-Konyuskov
4-Hutson
5-Mailloux
6-Struble

Hutson is fun to watch in the NCAA, but struggling on the defensive end. The defensive side of his game will be even more exposed as he reaches the pros. So what do we get at that point, a third pairing defenseman and PP specialist? Hard to justify ranking him higher than Reinbacher, Engstrom who are much more complete IMO.

Im not too concerned about Reinbacher's slow start in the NL, which is a very good pro league played on big ices. Kid battled through some knees issues as well. I watched him last sunday and looked great.

As for the fowards, they are harder to rank for me. Roy has slowed down quite a bit lately and his differential among the worst on the team. Heineman injured, Mesar tearing up the OHL ect.

I think Owen Beck is the safest bet, but his celling probably limited to a third line role and PKer. So I would tend to rank Mesar higher who I believe has the tools for a top 6 role after some seasoning.

I didnt watch Laval much, but Farrell had a tough camp, the lack of explosiveness and strength at that size is concerning.

I would have a hard time ranking one of the fowards over our top D prospects personally.

As for the goaltenders, I think both Fowler and Volokhin could end up as potential steals, Volokhin has the biggest frame and moves quite well.

Overall, I think thats a pretty hard group to rank and pretty underrated prospects pool. I like that we have some potential homerun picks.

The criticism of Hutson's defensive game reminds me a lot of the criticism of Fox's defensive game when he was in college. I think he'll be just fine, and is easily our best prospect.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

1. Reinbacher
2. Roy
3. Engstrom
4. Hutson
5. Beck
6. Mailloux
7. Fowler
8. Konyushkov
9. Heineman
10. Struble
11. Kapanen
12. Farrell
13. Mesar
14. Xhekaj
15. Tuch
16. Davidson
17. Trudeau
18. Kidney
19. Volkhin
20. Dobes
21. Rohrer
22. Miller
23. Eriksson
24. Norlinder
25. Harris

 

[Goldenhands]

The criticism of Hutson's defensive game reminds me a lot of the criticism of Fox's defensive game when he was in college. I think he'll be just fine, and is easily our best prospect.

We will see how his D game translates to the pros, but the offensive talent is there and he is very fun to watch.

 

[KevSkillz4]

1 - David Reinbacher (two-way beast).
2 - Lane Hutson (offensive beast).
3 - Joshua Roy (Tyler Toffoli clone).
4 - Logan Mailloux (high potential, high tools and great size aswell).
5 - Adam Engstrom (high package, immense potential).
6 - Owen Beck (two-way, mature and have 2nd//3rd line potential).
7 - Jacob Fowler (potential starter).
8 - Filip Mesar (top 6 potential).
9 - Emil Heineman (still have great potential even without playing a year).
10 - Bodgan Konyushkov (top 4 potential, for sure).

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Took me longer this year so I could see a few more Reinbacher games as he's given me a lot of trouble trying to figure out. and since the vids take hours to make I cut the list down to 15. I left out Heineman since he hasn't played all year, Miller, Tourigny and Mittelstadt since I haven't seen them play live yet as they wouldn't make the top 15 anyway most likely.



Top 15

1. Lane Hutson
2. Joshua Roy
3. Logan Mailloux
4. Adam Engstrom
5. David Reinbacher
6. Sean Farrell
7. Jacob Fowler
8. Owen Beck
9. Bogdan Konyuskov
10. Florian Xhekaj
11. Filip Mesar
12. Jayden Struble
13. Yevgeni Volokhin
14. Luke Tuch
15. William Trudeau


HM - Kidney, Dobes, Kapanen, Guindon, Simoneau, Pitlick

Good list. Here are my slightly different top 10 as of December 1:

1. Hutson
2. Engstrom
3. Reinbacher
4. Mailloux
5. Beck
6. Fowler
7. Konyuskov
8. Heineman
9. Mesar
10. Florian Xhekaj

 

[26Mats]

I have concerns with what I'm seeing with Reinbacher and I have lots of questions about his game that still need answers and those answers take time. By the end of the year, I will have likely seen every game or close to it (so far I only missed the 1st when he got the empty netter)

But it's close as Mailloux is doing better offensively then I thought he would at this point but the defense has been very concerning, as I thought it would be but by the end of the year i hope to see decent progress there. So for now I put him higher cause his offensive skills could be higher then I think and that could be very good news for us if so.

Engstrom I had at 5 flipped with Reinbacher but every time I watch Engstrom I like what I see and with Reinbacher it's much tougher as the games suck to watch mostly and he has had his struggles.

Unlike Norlinder who was always a boom or bust kind of prospect because with his D being weak part of his game, it puts all the pressure on the offense so if he doesn't produce he's shit. Engstrom is more like the kind of does just about everything well and most things really well but I still have doubts about just how good the offense is so I suspect by the end of the year Reinbacher will be higher but we'll see how it unfolds.



I didn't care for the pick at the time but to be fair I did only see him 1 game and I thought he looked slow as shit and not very good at hockey. Whoever thought to put him at center COULD be on to something really smart as you are talking about a big kid that at least so far is impressing at center. I thought he would suck at draws and defensively like when someone came up with the really bad idea to move Scherbak to center after he came back mid season from his 2nd major injury in 6 months and put him at center as it was ugly.

But Xhekaj in the games i've seen which is likely around a little more then half, he's done well on draws and while he's not fast as he doesn't always move his feet but once he gets going he can get there quicker then expected. He's also seemed to have very quickly smartened up as he was getting in too much trouble with the refs and now he's playing a smart game. Not as physical but still can crush people with big hits.

He's shown decent hands which has surprised me although his brother can shoot it so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. So what you could be looking at is something between Milan Lucic to Mike McCarron. You have a 6'4 center that goes to the front of the net and is a royal pain to move and won't take any shit either. If he can just work on the speed, you could really have something there. Even if he never makes it above the 4th line, he could end up being very valuable on a playoff team down the road.

My top 15 isn't worth anything, but here it is:

1. Reinbacher
2. Hutson
3. Mailloux
4. Roy
5. Engstrom
6. Fowler
7. Bogdan
8. Beck
9. Mesar
10. Struble
11. Farrell
12. Heineman
13. Xhekaj
14. Trudeau
15. Yevgeni Volokhin

Good list. Here are my slightly different top 10 as of December 1:

1. Hutson
2. Engstrom
3. Reinbacher
4. Mailloux
5. Beck
6. Fowler
7. Konyuskov
8. Heineman
9. Mesar
10. Florian Xhekaj

wawa?

 

[ChesterNimitz]

My top 15 isn't worth anything, but here it is:

1. Reinbacher
2. Hutson
3. Mailloux
4. Roy
5. Engstrom
6. Fowler
7. Bogdan
8. Beck
9. Mesar
10. Struble
11. Farrell
12. Heineman
13. Xhekaj
14. Trudeau
15. Yevgeni Volokhin


wawa?

Nono.

 

[26Mats]

Nono.

really? why not?

 

[Schooner Guy]

He has to show something first. He's doesn't have a large frame and he's regressed offensively. He's competing with guys like tuch, beck and Xhekaj for bottom six roles in the future.

He does all the technical things well including winning faceoffs, play against top lines etc. Coaches love that stuff! He's 6feet tall. His sample size this year is too small to say he has regressed offensively

It might not be with us but he's going to have a lengthy NHL career. I can't confidently say the same about Roy, Kidney, Tuch and other prospects in his age group that are in our system.

 

[HuGort]

1 - David Reinbacher (two-way beast).
2 - Lane Hutson (offensive beast).
3 - Joshua Roy (Tyler Toffoli clone).
4 - Logan Mailloux (high potential, high tools and great size aswell).
5 - Adam Engstrom (high package, immense potential).
6 - Owen Beck (two-way, mature and have 2nd//3rd line potential).
7 - Jacob Fowler (potential starter).
8 - Filip Mesar (top 6 potential).
9 - Emil Heineman (still have great potential even without playing a year).
10 - Bodgan Konyushkov (top 4 potential, for sure).

Concussion worrying me on Heineman though.

 

[Jaynki]

1. Reinbacher
2. Hutson
3. Mesar
4. Roy
5. Fowler
6. Beck
7. Mailloux
8. Engstrom

Is there any other relevant prospect ?

 

[Frankenheimer]

Top 25

1. Nikita Scherbak
2. Mike McCarron
3. Noah Juulsen
4. Charles Hudon
5. Jacob de la Rose
6. Martin Reway
7. Artturi Lehkonen
8. Magnus Nygren
9. Sven Andrighetto
10. Brett Lernout
11. Zach Fucale
12. Lukas Vejdemo
13. Jérémy Grégoire
14. Christian Thomas
15. Daniel Carr
16. Michael McNiven
17. Darren Dietz
18. Mark MacMillan
19. Tim Bozon
20. Mac Bennett
21. Morgan Ellis
22. Ryan Johnston
23. Connor Crisp
24. Matt Bradley
25. Jeremiah Addison