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the top 2 scorers in the Q are Hab prospects with Kidney not far behind.
Prospect Info: My Top 20 Hab Prospects List (Updated #538)
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the top 2 scorers in the Q are Hab prospects with Kidney not far behind.
True but Simoneau is back to being one of the 5-7 guys and is 20 lol I hope he can be another that cracks the NHL even with his height. Would be funny to see 2 x 5-7 guys for the Habs one day with Caufield and Simoneau.
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last part 5th through 1st.
the list is on post #381 but for those too lazy to go back 1 page,
Top 25
1. Cole Caufield
2. Joshua Roy
3. Mattias Norlinder
4. Kaiden Guhle
5. Sean Farrell
6. Ryan Poehling
7. Cayden Primeau
8. Jordan Harris
9. Jesse Ylonen
10. Riley Kidney
11. Jakub Dobes
12. Jan Mysak
13. Luke Tuch
14. Oliver Kapanen
15. Jayden Struble
16. Gianni Fairbrother
17. Blake Biondi
18. Dmitri Kostenko
19. Xavier Simoneau
20. Rafaël Harvey-Pinard
21. William Trudeau
22. Michael Pezzetta
23. Joe Vrbetic
24. Frederik Dichow
25. Arber Xhekaj
HM - Brett Stapley, Rhett Pitlick, Cam Hillis
Curious about Brook too. And you probably tell why Xhekaj is only 25th in your video, but I'm at my job and can't watch it.
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My Top 3 prospects are easily Roy, Struble and Mailloux.
Caufield has graduated, but if not, I'd throw him in the mix with these three.
I was looking at Mailloux videos earlier tonight, and he literally looks like Denis Potvin out there.
He has a great wrist shot from the point, a powerful slapshot (although he could use it more based on the highlights, he seems to prefer his wrist shot, just like D. Potvin), he has a great first pass under pressure, he's a pretty good skater for his size, has decent stickhandling abilities, is very physical and can throw devastating hits, and he's 6 ft 5 and right-handed.
Just a matter of knowing if he has the hockey IQ, something which Potvin had in spades. Obviously I'm not saying he's gonna be a Potvin, who was a prodigy even in junior, but he does remind me of him stylistically.
Seriously, Mailloux is looking soooo good, he might have been worth the hassle.
Caufield has graduated, but if not, I'd throw him in the mix with these three.
I was looking at Mailloux videos earlier tonight, and he literally looks like Denis Potvin out there.
He has a great wrist shot from the point, a powerful slapshot (although he could use it more based on the highlights, he seems to prefer his wrist shot, just like D. Potvin), he has a great first pass under pressure, he's a pretty good skater for his size, has decent stickhandling abilities, is very physical and can throw devastating hits, and he's 6 ft 5 and right-handed.
Just a matter of knowing if he has the hockey IQ, something which Potvin had in spades. Obviously I'm not saying he's gonna be a Potvin, who was a prodigy even in junior, but he does remind me of him stylistically.
Seriously, Mailloux is looking soooo good, he might have been worth the hassle.
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Everyone should go read the 1st page, our prospect list in hindsight is sooooooo bad
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somewhere around 13 maybe. The system is very deep but lacks high end depending on what Norlinder, Roy, Farrell, Kidney, Ylonen, Mysak, Mailloux can turn into and assuming Caufield ends up the player we expect him to be. So you have guys outside the top 10 that could end up our best prospects, that shows you are deep.
I always put undrafted FA's near the bottom, it's so rare that they turn into something of value for us. DD was the rare exception and that was due to teams not looking at players his size back then.
Deepest pool of prospects in 30 years! Some will pan out and become solid nhlers. This is the best situation for Gordon. Bergevin inherited a vétéran team not good enough to win it all with Audette as the best prospect. The worst possible situation. No doubt gordon will do a great job with what he has in hands
Euhhhh, I am flabergasted.. How can we seriously put him ahead of Ghule when he has not played a game this year!
Hum... Audette was drafted in 2014 by MB...
Gallagher, Beaulieu and Tinordi (plus Leblanc who had just finished his rookie season) were the best prospects when MB came in.
Right! Thanks! I threw Audette out there without checking. I guess my whole point remains valid. You want depth with quality prospects and that they have. Of course they missed with key 1st rounders that hurt
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Pretty surprised you have Roy as #2 - a welcomed surprise!
I really like the top 13, and from 14 to 20 I'd say are still legit NHL prospects. Really liking the depth.
Good work as always, love the videos!
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it is very deep, lots of question marks in large part due to MB/Timmins taking the mystery in Mailloux. Just think how much better the list would look if they opted to go with just a normal pick (granted it could pay off huge or not who knows) but for now if they went with say Knies or Morrow or Zellweger which are guys I could certainly see them being interested in, that our system would look that much better.
Then you have Norlinder as one of our best prospects imo, but with the injury at camp and how little he's been used and for a guy that excels on the PP to not be playing on the PP is such a Habs shit development plan way of things that I just have to laugh. If MB doesn't sign him and he's in the SHL on the best team in the league and even putting up half way decent points the list looks better as well.
It's going to be extremely interesting to see what Gorton does, the fact that I've heard him use the word development several times already gives me a lot of hope. I have always said I think many on this board underrate how important development and coaching are. Of course injuries, or players just peaking at 16, 17, 18, etc.. is always going to happen and be a part of why some picks just don't pan out. And no amount of development would have turned Crisp or McCarron into Cam Neeley. Just doesn't work that way. But if Gorton is serious about development, I think we will see better results for sure in time, just need Dom to go first.
Roy impressed me from day 1 so when that happens it usually turns out well for us. I had Farrell there and thought about Guhle as imo you could slot in any of the top 5 after CC in any spot. But what I also like is how much Kidney has impressed and he's at 10. If he can add mass, strength and speed, look out. I also really hope they hire a skating coach, would really help someone like Biondi who has the hands, if he can ever get the skating working on, there's certainly something there.
Glad you like the vids, things have finally started to pick up there as I've been getting a lot subs in the last month, also Habs eyes on the prize did an article on Roy and Guhle and used one of my vids so I think that got me more eye balls.
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I graduated Caufield, Harris, Poehling, Barron and Pezzetta.
Top 20
1. Joshua Roy
2. Sean Farrell
3. Kaiden Guhle
4. Logan Mailloux
5. Riley Kidney
6. Emil Heineman
7.Mattias Norlinder
8. Cayden Primeau
9. Jesse Ylonen
10. Jakub Dobes
11. Arber Xhekaj
12. Jayden Struble
13. Jan Mysak
14. Rafaël Harvey-Pinard
15. Blake Biondi
16. Luke Tuch
17. Frederik Dichow
18. Gianni Fairbrother
19. Xavier Simoneau
20. Dmitri Kostenko
HM - William Trudeau, Oliver Kapanen, Ty Smilanic, Joel Teasdale
Top 20
1. Joshua Roy
2. Sean Farrell
3. Kaiden Guhle
4. Logan Mailloux
5. Riley Kidney
6. Emil Heineman
7.Mattias Norlinder
8. Cayden Primeau
9. Jesse Ylonen
10. Jakub Dobes
11. Arber Xhekaj
12. Jayden Struble
13. Jan Mysak
14. Rafaël Harvey-Pinard
15. Blake Biondi
16. Luke Tuch
17. Frederik Dichow
18. Gianni Fairbrother
19. Xavier Simoneau
20. Dmitri Kostenko
HM - William Trudeau, Oliver Kapanen, Ty Smilanic, Joel Teasdale
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Estimated_Prophet
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Nice work!
I would not graduate Harris or Barron yet as they have 10 and 7 NHL games respectively, they are still definitely prospects.
Would have Smilanic considerably higher, just outside of the top ten and have really soured on Norlinder and have him behind both Struble and Xhekaj. I don't see much upside at all in RHP and very limited upside with Mysak.....look like 4th liners to me. Smilanic has middle six upside even though he is more likely a bottom six player.
Love that you have Heineman high as I feel that he is very underrated on this board.
Guhle should be an easy #1 imo
If I had to arrange the remaining 5:
1. Guhle
2. Roy
3. Mailloux
4. Farrell
5. Kidney
Don't mean to nit pick, your contributions are always interesting and appreciated. This stuff is uber subjective as development is unpredictable and often non linear.
I would not graduate Harris or Barron yet as they have 10 and 7 NHL games respectively, they are still definitely prospects.
Would have Smilanic considerably higher, just outside of the top ten and have really soured on Norlinder and have him behind both Struble and Xhekaj. I don't see much upside at all in RHP and very limited upside with Mysak.....look like 4th liners to me. Smilanic has middle six upside even though he is more likely a bottom six player.
Love that you have Heineman high as I feel that he is very underrated on this board.
Guhle should be an easy #1 imo
If I had to arrange the remaining 5:
1. Guhle
2. Roy
3. Mailloux
4. Farrell
5. Kidney
Don't mean to nit pick, your contributions are always interesting and appreciated. This stuff is uber subjective as development is unpredictable and often non linear.
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I'd only graduate a player if he has spent a significant part of a season (25-30 games minimum) and has seemingly cemented his role on the team even if it is only as a 6/7 D. Barron hasn't come close to either yet and while Harris has a very good chance to make the team, it doesn't take much to envision him going to Laval if he struggles while Guhle is killing it. I could even see Guhle beating him in camp but I don't think it will play out that way as Harris may just move to the right and I think Hughes wants to act in good faith and at least give him the opportunity to start the season. Harris trusted Hughes to sign with him and considering Hughes history as an agent he will make every effort to reward that trust.
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Smilanic didn't impress me at all, he looks like he has a lot of work to do although he had a poor 2nd half so maybe he can turn it around at his new school though I'm not a fan at all of the coaching staff there he will likely get a ton of TOI and PP since Wisconsin has the room.
Norlinder I'm willing to see how long it takes him to adjust to the smaller ice, I believe he could be our #1 prospect, the skill is there but he's got to stay healthy and I think a year or two in the AHL would be great for him. No rush, just develop him properly now that the new management team has said they want to focus on development, we'll see if that's the case.
I would be shocked if Harris wasn't on the Habs to start the season, he looked so comfortable out there. He can easily play RD so I see no problem. Barron I just don't know at all so I didn't want to rank him. I was against him going to the NHL so I would have him start in Laval.
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For the 1st time that I can remember, when doing a ranking I legit had the top 4 all at 1st OA but kept switching them around consistently as I could make the case for or against all 4 being 1st OA. Then you add the 1st OA this year plus whatever else from the draft to Caufield and the others and you got a real nice base for the rebuild.
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I graduated Slaf, Guhle, Xhekaj, Harris and left out Fairbrother due to being out all year to injury. With so many prospects and the stock market being crazy, I wasn't able to get to see every prospect play at least twice to start the new season, which is what in a normal year I would do so some I had to rank without seeing yet which makes it feel like names just thrown around but it takes a lot of time to put this together on top of all the other games going on since we have so many prospects.
Top 25
1. Lane Hutson
2. Owen Beck
3. Logan Mailloux
4. Sean Farrell
5. Filip Mesar
6. Joshua Roy
7. Emil Heineman
8. Justin Barron
9. Adam Engstrom
10. Riley Kidney
11. Jesse Ylonen
12. Vinzenz Rohrer
13. Cedrick Guindon
14. Mattias Norlinder
15. Jakub Dobes
16. Luke Tuch
17. Xavier Simoneau
18. Cayden Primeau
19. Jayden Struble
20. Rafaël Harvey-Pinard
21. Blake Biondi
22. Frederik Dichow
23. Oliver Kapanen
24. William Trudeau
25. Jan Mysak
HM - Jared Davidson, Dmitri Kostenko, Petteri Nurmi
Top 25
1. Lane Hutson
2. Owen Beck
3. Logan Mailloux
4. Sean Farrell
5. Filip Mesar
6. Joshua Roy
7. Emil Heineman
8. Justin Barron
9. Adam Engstrom
10. Riley Kidney
11. Jesse Ylonen
12. Vinzenz Rohrer
13. Cedrick Guindon
14. Mattias Norlinder
15. Jakub Dobes
16. Luke Tuch
17. Xavier Simoneau
18. Cayden Primeau
19. Jayden Struble
20. Rafaël Harvey-Pinard
21. Blake Biondi
22. Frederik Dichow
23. Oliver Kapanen
24. William Trudeau
25. Jan Mysak
HM - Jared Davidson, Dmitri Kostenko, Petteri Nurmi
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