Player Discussion Most disappointing Hughes Acquisition (All Michkov talk here)

[Tabarouette]

There's nothing wrong with HuGo, just the whiners again not getting their shiny new toy crying. We have a better Bitchvov coming next year and a great prospect pool. Not our fault you guys have the patience of 5 year old.

we could've had both, this was said many times it was never an either/or

idk man this fanbase is definitely entitled in wanting talent

 

[teamfirst]

There's nothing wrong with HuGo, just the whiners again not getting their shiny new toy crying. We have a better Bitchvov coming next year and a great prospect pool. Not our fault you guys have the patience of 5 year old.

Defenitely looks like a comment a 5 years old would do

 

[Guy Larose]

we could've had both, this was said many times it was never an either/or

idk man this fanbase is definitely entitled in wanting talent

Maybe they knew something we didn't...or they just wanted that RD that year and Demi this year. It's been said a thousand times that HuGo had their eye on Demi for a couple of years. Maybe they wanted to spread the talent around since there are holes everywhere.

Defenitely looks like a comment a 5 years old would do

You can't cope obviously in the non-pick

 

[Kennerback]

who is this supposed to be? lol
"We already have our arms full with a diva showing up at the Bell Center as Captain Kangaroo"

 

[LaP]

we could've had both, this was said many times it was never an either/or

idk man this fanbase is definitely entitled in wanting talent

Ì don't think there's a reality where they draft two smallish offensive wingers along with a big not clear cut elite skilled winger to start a rebuild. It would have never happened unless they would have been Ovy like package of skills, grit and size which none of them are. It was always going to be Michkov + dman or Demidov + dman imo. Draft bpa yes but at one point you can't draft wingers only.

 

[bcv]

How do you think "in the know" stories are generated? Leaks from the organization.

And of course it's cope. Anything to avoid admitting the obvious: Habs chose wrong, again.

And how do you know those leaks weren't from Michkov's camp to make sure he only went to philly?

You, and all other Michkov fan boys, are coping as hard as anyone. Saying things like the Habs chose wrong again just feels like you want a pat on the back for saying Michkov would be good. As if adding another smurf offensive winger would change anything for the Habs when they have CC and Demidov already.

 

[HabzSauce]

It’s actually quite funny how Michkov looks so insulted on the ice by the slightest push or chirp. He’s wound up like a high tension wire on the verge of blowing a fuse. Do you want him to be the face of the franchise?

Hawks will rue the day they passed on Demidov.

Yes man gimme all of that! High compete + high end skill what's not to love? He's also only 20 years old, he's got lots of maturity left.

I swear I would absolute love to hear what the Habs had an issue with. All I heard leading up to the draft was how much this guys attitude stinks but his on ice game tells me a very different story.

I see a competitor in Michkov. He's got that IT factor. Sometimes compete can rub guys the wrong way. Imagine a team passing on MJ or Kobe because of their personalities.....what a mistake that would have been

 

[BLONG7]

Ì don't think there's a reality where they draft two smallish offensive wingers along with a big not clear cut elite skilled winger to start a rebuild. It would have never happened unless they would have been Ovy like package of skills, grit and size which none of them are. It was always going to be Michkov + dman or Demidov + dman imo. Draft bpa yes but at one point you can't draft wingers only.

Something drove them away from Michkov.......we will hear about it someday soon enough....whatever it may be..........these things happen all the time. The kid is a good player, but there is always a but, so..........................

Give some time to DR to play and develop as a big Dman for us guys. Trust HuGo.....

 

[ReHabs]

And how do you know those leaks weren't from Michkov's camp to make sure he only went to philly?

How many times in your whole life of watching NHL hockey have you heard of a player manipulating the draft to the extent you people suggest?

You, and all other Michkov fan boys, are coping as hard as anyone. Saying things like the Habs chose wrong again just feels like you want a pat on the back for saying Michkov would be good. As if adding another smurf offensive winger would change anything for the Habs when they have CC and Demidov already.

The Habs didn't have Demidov at the time of the Michkov draft. In fact, the Demidov draft was a whole damn year away. The Habs do not have a time machine. Hope this helps.

 

[LaP]

How do you think "in the know" stories are generated? Leaks from the organization.

And of course it's cope. Anything to avoid admitting the obvious: Habs chose wrong, again.

We don't know if habs chose wrong though. That's the thing. We know Michkov is good but it has nothing to do with the pick we made. I think the most crazy thing on this boards lately is how people are willing to bust 20 years old players. Busting 20 years old players to prove a point cause you don't like the GM is absolutely 100% madness.

 

[ReHabs]

It was always going to be Michkov + dman or Demidov + dman imo. Draft bpa yes but at one point you can't draft wingers only.

The Habs do not have time machines and did not have any vision of Demidov or any other future draft pick given they did not know their draft position. BPA is BPA at the time of THAT draft. Hope this helps.

 

[LaP]

Something drove them away from Michkov.......we will hear about it someday soon enough....whatever it may be..........these things happen all the time. The kid is a good player, but there is always a but, so..........................

Give some time to DR to play and develop as a big Dman for us guys. Trust HuGo.....

Maybe they just liked Reinbacher. Sometime it's as simple as that. Michkov being good doesn't mean Reinbacher will auto bust. Prospects succeeding or not is not mutually exclusive. It's not highlander where only one can survive. It's possible they all do.

 

[Tabarouette]

The idea that we KNEW we would get Demidov so we skipped on Michkov isn't even worth the discussion, wasted bits on the world wide web

 

[NotProkofievian]

And how do you know those leaks weren't from Michkov's camp to make sure he only went to philly?

You, and all other Michkov fan boys, are coping as hard as anyone. Saying things like the Habs chose wrong again just feels like you want a pat on the back for saying Michkov would be good. As if adding another smurf offensive winger would change anything for the Habs when they have CC and Demidov already.

Looks like you have a fan in Guy LaRose lol. Yes, that's right, he's just another Smurf offensive winger. You nailed it, chief.

 

[LaP]

The idea that we KNEW we would get Demidov so we skipped on Michkov isn't even worth the discussion, wasted bits on the world wide web

That's not what i said but whatever. If they draft Michkov they IMO don't draft Demidov they go with either a dman or center. We'll never know but that's my opinion.

 

[Tabarouette]

That's not what i said but whatever. If they draft Michkov they IMO don't draft Demidov they go with either a dman or center. We'll never know but that's my opinion.

If they don't then they're not picking BPA in the top 5 and they're bad at their job, it's not rocket science

we're literally all making fun of Chicago for passing on Demidov for the exact same reasons yet some people in here are bending into a misshapen new-york pretzel to say it was 5D Chess by HuGo, it's wild

There's no sane or good argument to defend passing on Michkov with the information we have, if there's more then the team should come out and be explicit about it, period

 

[bcv]

Looks like you have a fan in Guy LaRose lol. Yes, that's right, he's just another Smurf offensive winger. You nailed it, chief.

Cope.

 

[LaP]

If they don't then they're not picking BPA in the top 5 and they're bad at their job, it's not rocket science

we're literally all making fun of Chicago for passing on Demidov for the exact same reasons yet some people in here are bending into a misshapen new-york pretzel to say it was 5D Chess by HuGo, it's wild

There's no sane or good argument to defend passing on Michkov with the information we have, if there's more then the team should come out and be explicit about it, period

I'm not making fun of Chicago. Contrary to a lot of people around here i don't think I know enough to know which prospect is better than which until they are at least 22. There's exceptions like Crosby or McJesus but it doesn't apply to the prospects we are discussing here. My answer is i don't know which picks will be better but i think it's unlikely they draft 3 non generational wingers to start a rebuild. I was merely replying to a post saying we could have both. Also i still think it's crazy that people bust 20 years old prospects.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Nope. How is a guy we drafted a Hughes acquisition? He's just another NHLer, and thus should be discussed in the other NHLer thread.

Reinbacher was the acquisition... Seems pretty clear.

By all means, discuss Michkov's performance in the other thread. All fine and dandy to do so. But if you're going to lament us not taking him, do it here. It's on topic here.

 

[The Great Weal]

As if adding another smurf offensive winger would change anything for the Habs when they have CC and Demidov already.

So Habs knew at the 2023 draft that they would draft Demidov the next year which is a large reason why they didn't take Michkov?

Also if the smurf winger is better offensively than anyone in the organization, why shouldn't we take the better smurf and trade away the inferior smurf(s)?

 

[Kennerback]

Yes man gimme all of that! High compete + high end skill what's not to love? He's also only 20 years old, he's got lots of maturity left.

I swear I would absolute love to hear what the Habs had an issue with. All I heard leading up to the draft was how much this guys attitude stinks but his on ice game tells me a very different story.

I see a competitor in Michkov. He's got that IT factor. Sometimes compete can rub guys the wrong way. Imagine a team passing on MJ or Kobe because of their personalities.....what a mistake that would have been

I would say Demidov has the IT factor and Michkov has the ME factor. Both are highly skilled and competitive, but Demidov is a winner and a leader. That’s who I want as the face of the franchise. He’s not high-strung and petulant like Michkov.

 

[bcv]

So Habs knew at the 2023 draft that they would draft Demidov the next year which is a large reason why they didn't take Michkov?

Also if the smurf winger is better offensively than anyone in the organization, why shouldn't we take the better smurf and trade away the inferior smurf(s)?

No, but in 2023 Michkov was not coming over for another 3 years and there was plenty of noise saying he was gonna choose his destination.

Nowadays, with hindsight, the Habs do have Demidov and Caufield is now a top10 goal scorer in the league (i’ll also point out he had a stretch of 48 goals in 82 games prior to last season), so why are people so hung up on Michkov? It was one thing to be mad about when the draft happened, it’s different thing to still be pissy years after the pick. By now, we should all be aware that offensive talent alone is not what wins cups. I’ve watched a lot of Michkov hockey and I’m far from convinced he’s the building block for a Stanley Cup winner.

 

[HabzSauce]

I would say Demidov has the IT factor and Michkov has the ME factor. Both are highly skilled and competitive, but Demidov is a winner and a leader. That’s who I want as the face of the franchise. He’s not high-strung and petulant like Michkov.

Ok fair between the two yea id rather Demidov as well

 

[OnTheRun]

There were many gleeful comments about Michkov’s benching early in the D+1 year and then again this year when he was rested by Torts for two games. There’s no point bringing it up because it’s just bitter nonsense.

And you know what? It's perfectly fine if people want to root for or against Michkov or if they want to praise or criticize his game or want to argue on whether is a glorified cherry picker or a bona fide franchise player. All that stuffs is fair game in OOT.

Right now it's maybe 5% (I'm generous) of the posts going in that sense. The rest are about not drafting him and since that draft was hmm, 533 days ago, this is hardly news for anyone.

Not one of you nor the esteemed discussion moderators told The user Boss Man Hughes off for calling Michkov a cockroach for months. A teenager, I remind you. Seems like you don’t care about negativity or nastiness at all, you care about a certain kind of negativity.

Then you should take issue with the 200 (low estimate) or so players Boss Man called a cockroach or a turd in the last 2 years. So go ahead and fold a thousand paper crane for each of them to mend their wounded soul. (PS: none of them give a damn about how Boss Man called them, just skips the cranes.)

I understand you guys are exhausted from being reminded that Kent Hughes made a catastrophic mistake but the worst is yet to come if the Habs continue to f*** up the rebuild and continue making awful decisions. Buckle up.

Habs fans aren't know to forgive nor forget. Everyone would be fine without the repetitive over the top emoness tho.

 

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Justin Barron