Player Discussion Most disappointing Hughes Acquisition (All Michkov talk here)

[The Great Weal]

Hundreds would be the equivalent of 4~5 pages worth of posts in out of town. This is nothing compared to where we are now.

I'm talking about an isolated act, Michkov getting scratched. This Michkov talk gets bumped after each game he produces, which is not an isolated act. It's not even remotely comparable and to pretend that barely anybody would talk about Michkov having a bad rookie year in this scenario is extremely disingenuous. There would be a ton of people talking about it to the point where it would also be "annoying".

You may enjoy reading the same boring shit over and over multiple times every day about a single players, but I've always enjoyed when OOT thread was about the other 31 teams. How many variations of "omg we passed on this player" before it becomes a slog ? Billions for you, a few billion less for me. But that's just me.

I'm still seeing a ton of interesting info I like that doesn't revolve around Michkov in this thread but to each their own.

 

[Paddyjack]

There were already hundreds for when he got scratched in the KHL where the term "Michkovian" appeared, so it definitely is a lot of people that were eagerly hoping he'd be a flop.

You know, I really wish him the best, but more and more I'm hoping he would flop just because I wouldn't read every day how much a mistake it was not picking him.

 

[Paddyjack]

He wasn't in the same tier at the draft, which is the whole point.

If you reach and make a mistake it isn't the same as if you pick Carlsson over Michkov when these two were basically neck to neck in the rankings.

If Will Smith fell to #5 and the Habs picked him instead of Michkov no one would be mad.

You know, what is funny about all this is that neither Hughes or Gorton or any other Habs scouting staff are on this board, so what's the point really of telling every day how mad you are? Will it change something? "Oh that poster was mad last year on HF board, we sure should make the same mistake!" was never heard at the scouting table I'm quite sure.

 

[The Great Weal]

You know, I really wish him the best, but more and more I'm hoping he would flop just because I wouldn't read every day how much a mistake it was not picking him.

That's fine to think that, but you just shouldn't be complaining about any potential mistake ever because you'd be contradicting yourself. Especially when this might end up being one of the worst ones in recent history.

 

[NotProkofievian]

You know, what is funny about all this is that neither Hughes or Gorton or any other Habs scouting staff are on this board, so what's the point really of telling every day how mad you are? Will it change something? "Oh that poster was mad last year on HF board, we sure should make the same mistake!" was never heard at the scouting table I'm quite sure.

What's the point of your post?

 

[OnTheRun]

I'm talking about an isolated act, Michkov getting scratched. This Michkov talk gets bumped after each game he produces, which is not an isolated act. It's not even remotely comparable and to pretend that barely anybody would talk about Michkov having a bad rookie year in this scenario is extremely disingenuous. There would be a ton of people talking about it to the point where it would also be "annoying".

It's a wild what if scenario so we'll never know. We do know Benson was considered as a "one that got away" last year, yet OOT isn't filled with posts violently dunking Benson this year when he struggle. Wright trashing is also sporadic and contained. Michkov talks pop in almost every threads.

 

[Kimota]

Both of those are bs.

Didn't the agent made the post on X?

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Gorton during the draft video that year said teams only get so many chances to add talent and it's now difficult to add them during UFA.

Said you pretty much have to draft or get lucky to get high end talent these days and sometimes you need to take a chance. Then said but it seems like this room doesn't seem to want to take this chance but he just wanted to make sure they were making the right decision.

Certainly sounds like he was likely talking about Michkov there to me.

Fire them all, the minute I read that they were all unanimous about drafting Reinbacher, I knew we were f***ed.

 

[ReHabs]

Hundreds would be the equivalent of 4~5 pages worth of posts in out of town. This is nothing compared to where we are now.

There were many gleeful comments about Michkov’s benching early in the D+1 year and then again this year when he was rested by Torts for two games. There’s no point bringing it up because it’s just bitter nonsense.

Not one of you nor the esteemed discussion moderators told The user Boss Man Hughes off for calling Michkov a cockroach for months. A teenager, I remind you. Seems like you don’t care about negativity or nastiness at all, you care about a certain kind of negativity.

I understand you guys are exhausted from being reminded that Kent Hughes made a catastrophic mistake but the worst is yet to come if the Habs continue to f*** up the rebuild and continue making awful decisions. Buckle up.

 

[Guy Larose]

There were many gleeful comments about Michkov’s benching early in the D+1 year and then again this year when he was rested by Torts for two games. There’s no point bringing it up because it’s just bitter nonsense.

Not one of you nor the esteemed discussion moderators told The user Boss Man Hughes off for calling Michkov a cockroach for months. A teenager, I remind you. Seems like you don’t care about negativity or nastiness at all, you care about a certain kind of negativity.

I understand you guys are exhausted from being reminded that Kent Hughes made a catastrophic mistake but the worst is yet to come if the Habs continue to f*** up the rebuild and continue making awful decisions. Buckle up.

Sorry, but you were pretty much doing the same with Slaf.

That being said, I learned a long time ago not to stress over things I have no control over, as it doesn't give me anything except grief. I've been way better for it. I see some people on here way too invested and obsessed and that can't be good for their health. To each their own, but that's not for me anymore. As for the Michkov vs Reinbaher thing, it is what is for me. I still watch all the games and follow the team year long, but I watch with a different eye. Getting my blood pressure up on a message board won't change things.

 

[ReHabs]

Sorry, but you were pretty much doing the same with Slaf.

I felt that since he wasn't a perfect prospect,Slaf's perceived deficiencies would be better developed not in the NHL. I was wrong, the Habs organization thought his deficiencies are best dealt with at the NHL level with constant supervision. Kent Hughes had to have a talk with him and he's still not come back up to par -- he needs a lot of constant attention and work.

I did talk badly about Slaf and get carried away with the purple prose, even calling him an oaf once but I never smeared his family, his native homeland, or insinuated he was connected to drug cartels, war criminals, etc.

That being said, I learned a long time ago not to stress over things I have no control over, as it doesn't give me anything except grief. I've been way better for it. I see some people on here way too invested and obsessed and that can't be good for their health. To each their own, but that's not for me anymore. As for the Michkov vs Reinbaher thing, it is what is for me. I still watch all the games and follow the team year long, but I watch with a different eye. Getting my blood pressure up on a message board won't change things.

You seem to have a lot of fun posting laugh reacts and complaining about what other people post. To each their own.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Like, it would just be so much easier to call a spade a spade, no? People have no problem doing it when Slaf is clearly better than Wright. Now it's all wait and see, we don't know what info they had, it is what it is go touch grass blah blah blah.

It's so weird to try and pretend to not be bothered by something. Just be bothered or not.

 

[Guy Larose]

I felt that since he wasn't a perfect prospect,Slaf's perceived deficiencies would be better developed not in the NHL. I was wrong, the Habs organization thought his deficiencies are best dealt with at the NHL level with constant supervision. Kent Hughes had to have a talk with him and he's still not come back up to par -- he needs a lot of constant attention and work.

I did talk badly about Slaf and get carried away with the purple prose, even calling him an oaf once but I never smeared his family, his native homeland, or insinuated he was connected to drug cartels, war criminals, etc.


You seem to have a lot of fun posting laugh reacts and complaining about what other people post. To each their own.

Yes, because a lot of the takes on this board are downright hilarious and delirious.

Like, it would just be so much easier to call a spade a spade, no? People have no problem doing it when Slaf is clearly better than Wright. Now it's all wait and see, we don't know what info they had, it is what it is go touch grass blah blah blah.

It's so weird to try and pretend to not be bothered by something. Just be bothered or not.

I am not bothered because it is what it is and the fact that we don't know yet what either player will become.

 

[NotProkofievian]

I am not bothered because it is what it is and the fact that we don't know yet what either player will become.

We know what Michkov already is. Admitting it seems to be the issue for some people.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Didn't the agent made the post on X?

Don't need to.

If you're really wanting to go somewhere, you don't try and sneakily go and visit another city to meet with the team.

Lafreniere for Tkachuk is just some BS talked here that Lavoie jumped on.

Dude has sources and is kind of reliable, but a lot of the time he isn't.

 

[ReHabs]

Don't need to.

If you're really wanting to go somewhere, you don't try and sneakily go and visit another city to meet with the team.

Lafreniere for Tkachuk is just some BS talked here that Lavoie jumped on.

Dude has sources and is kind of reliable, but a lot of the time he isn't.

Players meet with teams all the time. Levshunov met with CHI a bunch over his draft year. The Habs met with Demidov and Reinbacher prior to their respective drafts too. The nonsense cope just won't stop.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Players meet with teams all the time. Levshunov met with CHI a bunch over his draft year. The Habs met with Demidov and Reinbacher prior to their respective drafts too. The nonsense cope just won't stop.

Except you're not getting it.

Michkov could only get over for the draft and made a specific trip to go to Philadelphia before the draft and met with no one else.

If he came and met the flyers, Habs and let's say Coyotes, then yeah, there's obvious interest and the Habs blew it.

He went literally nowhere else and only met with other teams at the draft.

Players don't meet with one team and want to go to another team.

This nonsense cope needs to stop. It's literally spelled out in front of people and you don't get it.

 

[Guy Larose]

Players meet with teams all the time. Levshunov met with CHI a bunch over his draft year. The Habs met with Demidov and Reinbacher prior to their respective drafts too. The nonsense cope just won't stop.

More like people can't cope with the fact that the Habs didn't pick him.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Except you're not getting it.

Michkov could only get over for the draft and made a specific trip to go to Philadelphia before the draft and met with no one else.

If he came and met the flyers, Habs and let's say Coyotes, then yeah, there's obvious interest and the Habs blew it.

He went literally nowhere else and only met with other teams at the draft.

Players don't meet with one team and want to go to another team.

This nonsense cope needs to stop. It's literally spelled out in front of people and you don't get it.

He was INVITED by Philly. The philly trip means nothing about Michkov's intentions.

Renaud's info is probably legit, or else explain to me why would the Habs invite Michkov for an interview and why Michkov didn't refuse like he did the Yotes?

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

He was INVITED by Philly. The philly trip means nothing about Michkov's intentions.

Renaud's info is probably legit, or else explain to me why would the Habs invite Michkov for an interview and why Michkov didn't refuse like he did the Yotes?

That seems to state he didn't refuse.

This seems to be where the rumour came from, which is false because everyone knows that dude is false.

Doesn't seem Lavoie tweeted it, at least not recently. Nothing about the Laf for Tkachuk

I haven't found anything about rejecting the Coyotes, just the Ducks.

 

[ReHabs]

This seems to be where the rumour came from, which is false because everyone knows that dude is false.

Jeez, get over it man. Habs didn't pick Michkov, the world will keep turning. The Habs have been making catastrophic mistakes my whole damn life, it happens and then the next day the sun also rises. There's no need to lie and pout and scream about it.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

That seems to state he didn't refuse.

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This seems to be where the rumour came from, which is false because everyone knows that dude is false.

Doesn't seem Lavoie tweeted it, at least not recently. Nothing about the Laf for Tkachuk

I haven't found anything about rejecting the Coyotes, just the Ducks.

But Michkov did meet with the Habs and Philly were the ones to contact and invite Michkov for a visit. Both of these are verifiable facts. Which lends weight to Michkov being ok with Montreal drafting him. Habs were also positive about their interview with Matvei.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Jeez, get over it man. Habs didn't pick Michkov, the world will keep turning. The Habs have been making catastrophic mistakes my whole damn life, it happens and then the next day the sun also rises. There's no need to lie and pout and scream about it.

Seems you're the one who keeps needing to put his two cents into it and when you're proved wrong you just ignore it.

Once you and others stop crying over not picking him this board can move on.

 

[morhilane]

That seems to state he didn't refuse.

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This seems to be where the rumour came from, which is false because everyone knows that dude is false.

Doesn't seem Lavoie tweeted it, at least not recently. Nothing about the Laf for Tkachuk

I haven't found anything about rejecting the Coyotes, just the Ducks.

That whole thing is weird, David Ettedgui is not Michkov's agent. It's basically a random fan telling the Habs to draft Mickhov, but somehow it make news and people got all their facts wrong.

Michkov's agent is J.P. Barry (same agency as Brisson).

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

But Michkov did meet with the Habs and Philly were the ones to contact and invite Michkov for a visit. Both of these are verifiable facts. Which lends weight to Michkov being ok with Montreal drafting him. Habs were also positive about their interview with Matvei.

I didn't say the Habs didn't meet with Michkov. I said he only met with the flyers outside of the draft.

I didn't say Michkov wasn't ok with going to the Habs.

I didn't say the Habs said the interview went negatively


I said Michkov seemed to have a very specific team he wanted to go to.

Would be nice to have him AND Demidov, but that's c'est la vie.

On to the next draft and see who the Habs pass up on who's better.

Passed up Tkachuk/Q Hughes for KK. Hutson is looking promising as f***, but missing on Tkachuk hurts.