More hated player - Cooke or Torres

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

Two of the cheapest hitters of all time.

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[HarryLime]

Cooke by a country mile

Biggest POS to ever play the game

 

[DitchMarner]

Cooke was a scumbag on skates. What a piece of trash.


If ya smeeeeeeellllll'l'l'l'l what the Matt... is Cookin'.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Matt Cooke because after the way he injured Erik Karlsson with his skate it was the first time I heard an NHL owner having doctors investigating an incident like that, although it was Eugene Melnyk who wanted that to be done.

Melnyk: Doctors investigating Karlsson incident - Sportsnet.ca

Melnyk presents 'forensic' results to NHL - Sportsnet.ca

 

[The Pale King]

Two different arcs in terms of perception/hate. Cooke came into the league and I don't remember anyone really hating him during the West Coast Express era. Once he got to Pittsburgh though the perception of him really changed. Some of that is from the Penguins being public enemy no. 1 (all the Sid Crybaby stuff, draft rigging rumours etc) but most of it of course was from his playstyle being at odds with the faster, more open play following the lockout. The hate kind of petered out toward the end of his career, aside from the Karlsson incident and the knee on knee thing with Barrie. But by the time he retired the Savard hit and McDonnough things felt (to me) like they happened ages ago.

Torres on the other hand just got more hated as he went along. He scored some big goals during Edmonton's cinderella run, kind of looked like he might be a Maltby type folk-hero but he seemed to get more vicious & one dimensional as he went along. Maybe the only member of the 2010s Canucks where I understood where the hate was coming from. He left the league following two of the longest suspensions in league history, and had he not retired was pacing for a 100+ game incident. I always thought his cheap shots looked more intentional than Cooke's, for what it's worth.

So in summary, Cooke seemed to mellow//be forgotten as his career wound down, whereas Torres was really just hitting his stride.

But also: **** both these guys.

 

[Ace of Hades]

Matt Cooke is probably the only Canuck I hated when he was on the team especially during his later years here.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Cooke for sure. A lot of Torres hits would have been legal 15 years earlier. Either way, Cooke was a bigger scumbag.

 

[robsenz]

Cooke no question Torres was dirty...His hit on Hossa being one of the most notable I actually didn't find it as bad as it was made out to be, which is odd because he does jump and aim for the head, but it wasn't as late as a hit as the NHL made it out to be imo. Both Garbage players, but I took Cooke's nonsense personal and he's probably the only NHLer I would chirp outside of the rink cause he's a POS, actually Kadri too..lol

 

[Rowlet]

Cooke for me easily, I always felt that Cooke was malicious, while Torres never seemed intelligent enough to figure out what the line between dirty and clean was.

 

[JaegerDice]

Cooke was more widely hated, but I personally hated Torres more.

 

[wetcoast]

Cooke by a country mile

Biggest POS to ever play the game

Pretty much this and as a Canuck fan I hated him.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Cooke. Not even remotely close.

 

[jcs0218]

Cooke was more hated. But I always thought Torres was slightly more dirty and cheap.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Torres rarely did dirty things. But when he did, they were just disgusting and wrong.

Cooke did too much dirty but not as bad as Torres.

 

[zar]

Cooke. Dirtier and rarely ever dropped the mitts when challenged. He was one of the few guys I hoped got injured and wouldn’t have had one bit of empathy for a career ending injury.

Torres was more reckless. He did everything at high speed and sometimes didn’t stop when he knew he should have. Maybe his brain just didn’t work as fast as the average hockey player.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Both dirty players, but their reputations are overblown. Neither were as malicious as someone like Marchand.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Both dirty players, but their reputations are overblown. Neither were as malicious as someone like Marchand.

Cooke on Karlsson or Torres on Hossa were worse than anything marchand ever did.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Cooke was dirty, but he was a excellent 3rd liner. Torres would've been coveted in the 90's (that's why he was drafted 5th overall) but by the 2010's his style of play was on the outs.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Cooke on Karlsson or Torres on Hossa were worse than anything marchand ever did.

Nah. Cooke on Karlsson wasn't intentional and Torres on Hossa was .75s after the puck was knocked away, .15s more than legal. Both would always commit to completing the check, which sometimes turned out to be late or a knee when the opposing player evaded the check, but I never got the sense they were intentionally trying to injure someone.

Marchand will delibrately and premeditatedly spear a guy in the nuts, throw an elbow away from the play, or take out someone's knees just because he can.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Nah. Cooke on Karlsson wasn't intentional and Torres on Hossa was .75s after the puck was knocked away, .15s more than legal. Both would always commit to completing the check, which sometimes turned out to be late or a knee when the opposing player evaded the check, but I never got the sense they were intentionally trying to injure someone.

Marchand will delibrately and premeditatedly spear a guy in the nuts, throw an elbow away from the play, or take out someone's knees just because he can.

Torres hit was not only extremely late, it was a blatant headshot and he intentionally tried to hurt him.

you don’t think cooke’s knee on Barrie wasn’t intentional? He wasn’t even close to getting him with a legal check.

 

[biturbo19]

Leaguewide? Cooke easily, probably.


But as a Canucks fan...i didn't hate Cooke as much as most fans, and i absolute hated Torres for his entire career.

 

[Voight]

Never forget Lemieux complaining about dirty players when he employed the biggest POS in the league for a number of years.

 

[The Macho King]

Just something to lighten the mood.

 

[ScaredStreit]

Cooke for sure. A lot of Torres hits would have been legal 15 years earlier. Either way, Cooke was a bigger scumbag.

This. Torres was a dirty player and far from a saint but oftentimes fell into grey territory. Cooke blatantly wanted to injury people and potentially end their careers.

 

[Mitch nylander]

These two were bad but nobody was more malicious then Chris Simon.