OT: MLB Thread XLVII

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Every time Smith hits into a double play an angel loses its wings.
 
You could tell something wasn't right with deGrom in the sixth, I'm really surprised neither Gary nor Keith picked up on it. He didn't look right and the velocity was down.

They're going to need more than Nick f***ing Tropeano now.
 
So by the sounds of it, this is not a good injury at all for Jake? I’ve never heard of it so I’m clueless right now. Is this more on the major side rather than minor?
 
deGrom is the greatest pitcher I may ever see. It’s truly amazing. It’s a video game when he pitches with the ratings for him juiced. It just looks so smooth and easy. His mechanics when you overlay them, thanks Pitching Ninja, are overlapped. You never see two bodies. It’s one guy throwing two different balls. Nuts! I just worry that he’s pumping 101 with 95mph sliders that it’s the reason he’s getting these injuries.
 
So by the sounds of it, this is not a good injury at all for Jake? I’ve never heard of it so I’m clueless right now. Is this more on the major side rather than minor?
Who knows. Rojas said this is a thing deGrom has had before and he knows how to treat it, and that he expects him to make his next start.

That said, normally, if you had something wrong with that flexor tendon and it needed surgery (any kind of tear won't heal on its own) you'd be out months.

Jake himself also said he's not too worried about it so hopefully it's no big deal.
 
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Pedro and deGrom are overpowering hitters. Maddux was never like that but he was downright unhittable.
He and Glavine killed me, particularly as a Mets fan. It was a different time where umpires seemingly had no desire to even attempt to call a fair and consistent stroke zone and they'd always give those two pitches that were literally in the opposite batter's box. But, to Maddux and Glavine's credit, they could hit those spots on command. They were just throwing darts.
 
He and Glavine killed me, particularly as a Mets fan. It was a different time where umpires seemingly had no desire to even attempt to call a fair and consistent stroke zone and they'd always give those two pitches that were literally in the opposite batter's box. But, to Maddux and Glavine's credit, they could hit those spots on command. They were just throwing darts.
This reminds me of a story Tim McCarver used to tell about Steve Carlton's control. He would start the game painting the black on the outside corner...and with each pitch he'd move further and further outside....McC says that by the time the game was over, Carlton was getting strike calls a foot or more off the plate.

Ahhhhh....the good old days.
 
deGrom is the greatest pitcher I may ever see. It’s truly amazing. It’s a video game when he pitches with the ratings for him juiced. It just looks so smooth and easy. His mechanics when you overlay them, thanks Pitching Ninja, are overlapped. You never see two bodies. It’s one guy throwing two different balls. Nuts! I just worry that he’s pumping 101 with 95mph sliders that it’s the reason he’s getting these injuries.
Till now, I always thought Gibson was the best I'd seen -- even without the record setting season, he was one hell of a pitcher -- and a mean streak to match...he'd throw at you just as soon as look at you. However, I don't recall a pitcher who had the pinpoint control that deGrom has....
 
This reminds me of a story Tim McCarver used to tell about Steve Carlton's control. He would start the game painting the black on the outside corner...and with each pitch he'd move further and further outside....McC says that by the time the game was over, Carlton was getting strike calls a foot or more off the plate.

Ahhhhh....the good old days.
Yeah, I know most people are on the robo-umps train with respect to balls and strikes (I am, too), but I also remember what the strike zone used to look like. It was basically like anything above the belt was a ball, and 6"-9" off the plate was the norm for every pitcher. And then the good guys as you mentioned with Carlton would just push it wider and wider.

If people are interested in this kind of stuff, I would strongly encourage following Umpire Scorecards on Twitter. You'll get this for every game:

It's interesting because these results were probably below average. There are many nights where umpires get 98%+ of the calls right. They're actually pretty damn good now, and it's the fact that they're as good as they are that makes the bad calls stand out even more.
 
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