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I feel like the only comparable is 2000 Pedro but deGrom is lapping that right now. Truly special to witness.
I was a bit too young for that, but yeah I heard Maddux in 95 was god tier as well.Don't forget 94 and 95 Maddux. That guy was unhittable.
Who knows. Rojas said this is a thing deGrom has had before and he knows how to treat it, and that he expects him to make his next start.So by the sounds of it, this is not a good injury at all for Jake? I’ve never heard of it so I’m clueless right now. Is this more on the major side rather than minor?
I was a bit too young for that, but yeah I heard Maddux in 95 was god tier as well.
He and Glavine killed me, particularly as a Mets fan. It was a different time where umpires seemingly had no desire to even attempt to call a fair and consistent stroke zone and they'd always give those two pitches that were literally in the opposite batter's box. But, to Maddux and Glavine's credit, they could hit those spots on command. They were just throwing darts.Pedro and deGrom are overpowering hitters. Maddux was never like that but he was downright unhittable.
Beat ERA+ all time was 293 in 1880. Next best was Pedro in 2000 with a 291. DeGrom got 218 in 2018. His era+ so far this season is 688.Pedro and deGrom are overpowering hitters. Maddux was never like that but he was downright unhittable.
This reminds me of a story Tim McCarver used to tell about Steve Carlton's control. He would start the game painting the black on the outside corner...and with each pitch he'd move further and further outside....McC says that by the time the game was over, Carlton was getting strike calls a foot or more off the plate.He and Glavine killed me, particularly as a Mets fan. It was a different time where umpires seemingly had no desire to even attempt to call a fair and consistent stroke zone and they'd always give those two pitches that were literally in the opposite batter's box. But, to Maddux and Glavine's credit, they could hit those spots on command. They were just throwing darts.
Till now, I always thought Gibson was the best I'd seen -- even without the record setting season, he was one hell of a pitcher -- and a mean streak to match...he'd throw at you just as soon as look at you. However, I don't recall a pitcher who had the pinpoint control that deGrom has....deGrom is the greatest pitcher I may ever see. It’s truly amazing. It’s a video game when he pitches with the ratings for him juiced. It just looks so smooth and easy. His mechanics when you overlay them, thanks Pitching Ninja, are overlapped. You never see two bodies. It’s one guy throwing two different balls. Nuts! I just worry that he’s pumping 101 with 95mph sliders that it’s the reason he’s getting these injuries.
Yeah, I know most people are on the robo-umps train with respect to balls and strikes (I am, too), but I also remember what the strike zone used to look like. It was basically like anything above the belt was a ball, and 6"-9" off the plate was the norm for every pitcher. And then the good guys as you mentioned with Carlton would just push it wider and wider.This reminds me of a story Tim McCarver used to tell about Steve Carlton's control. He would start the game painting the black on the outside corner...and with each pitch he'd move further and further outside....McC says that by the time the game was over, Carlton was getting strike calls a foot or more off the plate.
Ahhhhh....the good old days.