MLB draft lottery way better than NHL’s

[TatteredTornNFrayed]

The NFL has the best draft lottery

You can't really compare the NFL draft structure to the NHL.

In NFL it is quite normal for 2nd, 3rd, 4th rounders, and well beyond, to be valuable players to their teams in the 1st or 2nd year following them being drafted. Even 7th rounders and UDFA's sometimes play significant time in their draft years.

And a large percentage of NFL 1st rounders become immediate fixtures on their teams. Where as in the NHL only a few 1st rounders even play in the NHL immediately.

All of this meaning the impact of the fixed draft slotting isn't nearly as significant in the NFL, where the pick value follows a much more consistently regular curve, on average, than in the NHL.

 

[Maitz]

The only thing the NHL should add to their draft is compensatory picks for FA leaving.

 

[kerrabria]

The NHL has a serious problem with perpetual bottom feeders. How many dozens of Top 5 picks have busted because they were drafted to incompetent, dysfunctional teams that mismanaged a teenager's development?

I hate the idea that the draft exists to help the worst teams. This isn't the NBA where one player makes the difference, or the NFL where the players enter very well-developed already.

It will never happen, but I'd like to see drastic re-thinking about how prospects enter the league.

 

[Brodeur]

The only thing the NHL should add to their draft is compensatory picks for FA leaving.

They took that away with the 2005 CBA. Partly because of a supposed even playing field with the salary cap and partly because of the teams abusing the rules for the 2003/04 Drafts by acquiring impending UFAs just to lose them. I think MLB instituted a rule about teams not getting a compensatory pick if they acquired somebody after a certain point in the calendar.

One other wrinkle was that NHL teams didn't receive a pick if they signed somebody "similar" as a replacement. One example was Dallas letting Brett Hull leave in the summer of 2001 but they signed Pierre Turgeon from St. Louis. Dallas didn't get a pick for Hull, whereas St. Louis got a pick (#48) for Turgeon since they didn't sign anybody. Probably not a big hurdle, but some agents would probably complain that it could limit the number of potential suitors. With free agency at an earlier age, most teams are signing UFAs anyways, so that would negate most compensatory picks.

 

[weastern bias]

You can't really compare the NFL draft structure to the NHL.

I wasn't, I was comparing their draft lottery structures

The NFL draft lottery is far superior to that of every other North American sports league

 

[OneSharpMarble]

Just make it a clause that if you draft top 5 you have to fire someone from the organization on stage before the pick and give your reason.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I wasn't, I was comparing their draft lottery structures

The NFL draft lottery is far superior to that of every other North American sports league

That’s a crap system, if you can call it a system.
Why call it a lottery, worst team picks first.
Then depends on playoffs.

 

[TatteredTornNFrayed]

I wasn't, I was comparing their draft lottery structures

The NFL draft lottery is far superior to that of every other North American sports league

The point is the NFL doesn't have a draft lottery, in part because there isn't remotely close to as large of a drop-off in pick values.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Almost always the worst teams are the worst for a reason and need the most help.

I agree.

While I like the idea of all non playoff teams having a shot at winning the lotto but if a team who missed the playoffs by a single pt wins and they actually have a good team but for what ever reason they missed the playoffs? THis board would go nuts

True

It's good the way it is. At least not guaranteed first overall now.

 

[cowboy82nd]

Just watched it this afternoon. A lot more interesting and compelling than the NHL. NHL made it even more boring a few years ago after Whinezerman complained. I would like to see all 16 non-playoff teams have a shot at the top 5 picks. Why should crappy teams load up for 4-5 years with top 5 picks??? Time to take power away from GMs. Imagine the hype and excitement if all 16 teams had a shot at the top 5 picks in a weighted format that still gives the odds to bottom teams but for first five, not first two.

What do you mean by this sentence?

 

[Body Checker]

I say it’s also unfair for teams to stockpile top young players year after year. Looking at current standings you could say Pittsburgh, Islanders, St Louis and Philadelphia deserve a top end talent more than San Jose, Anaheim, Chicago or Montreal. The point of a wider lottery would be to spread young talent out more. End of day it’s a cap league so good management decision making like Bill Zito is what tips the scales.

 

[Schennanigans]

You gotta give the bad teams something to look forward to. It would be pretty horrible for a team to finish bottom 5 and end up with a 16th overall pick.

 

[weastern bias]

That’s a crap system, if you can call it a system.
Why call it a lottery, worst team picks first.
Then depends on playoffs.

They don't call it a lottery, they just run their draft in an intelligent fashion

The point is the NFL doesn't have a draft lottery, in part because there isn't remotely close to as large of a drop-off in pick values.

No one even wants the #1 pick in the NFL draft, it's actually worthless, might as well trade down for more 7ths since there isn't much drop off in value

 

[SirKillalot]

Can't wait for someone to bring up the "We should have a playoffs for the eliminated teams to decide who gets the 1st pick"

One thing that don't need to translate over from Fantasy league...

 

[Golden_Jet]

They don't call it a lottery, they just run their draft in an intelligent fashion

Nice satire

 

[weastern bias]

Nice satire

Sure is hurting the NFL's bottom line, they can't seem to get anything right!

 

[GeeoffBrown]

I think the idea for the NHL is not to make the draft lottery an entertaining event but rather to pretend they are addressing tanking while helping the worst teams get better

 

[SEALBound]

The worst teams should have the best chances at the best picks. That is such a reasonable and simple premise that I find it difficult to stomach some of the comments here.

The MLB Draft Lottery doesn't matter because the talent dropoff from #1 to #30 is negligible.

Very true. There are some years where a 1st OV is barely an impact player in the long run. Other times, it's a franchise altering pick. One thing is for certain, if you want to be competing for a cup one day, you absolutely a need a franchise top 3 pick. STL was an exception having a top 5 pick. Everyone else had a franchise-level top 1-2-3 pick. It's not enough to suck, you have to suck at the right time.

The NHL has a serious problem with perpetual bottom feeders. How many dozens of Top 5 picks have busted because they were drafted to incompetent, dysfunctional teams that mismanaged a teenager's development?

I hate the idea that the draft exists to help the worst teams. This isn't the NBA where one player makes the difference, or the NFL where the players enter very well-developed already.

It will never happen, but I'd like to see drastic re-thinking about how prospects enter the league.

So the solution would to give top teams the top picks to get the top guys so that they aren't "wasted"?

That seems completely reasonable...

 

[SomeDude]

Just make it a clause that if you draft top 5 you have to fire someone from the organization on stage before the pick and give your reason.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

The worst team in modern history couldn't pick above 10th. That's a disgusting joke, not something to applaud.

 

[MoneyManny]

The NHL should give the best pick to the team that finishes in 17th place.

The worst teams should not get the best picks in a cap league. Most of the time, the teams that finish last don't usually need the 1oa the most anyways.

That's good timing, making this comment right when your team is trending up after winning the lottery.

 

[SladeWilson23]

That's good timing, making this comment right when your team is trending up after winning the lottery.

Exactly. The Devils never once finished last in the league.

 

[Golden_Jet]

The NHL should give the best pick to the team that finishes in 17th place.

That might be the worst suggestion, especially considering all the lottery luck by your team.

The worst teams should not get the best picks in a cap league. Most of the time, the teams that finish last don't usually need the 1oa the most anyways.

lol, and why doesn’t the worst team, need the 1OA,

 

[HockeyVirus]

Personally I think the lottery odds should be based on last cup win and only reset when you win one.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Personally I think the lottery odds should be based on last cup win and only reset when you win one.

So we have 10 teams that have never won, so they get all the top 10 picks until they win.