MLB draft lottery way better than NHL’s

Body Checker

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Just watched it this afternoon. A lot more interesting and compelling than the NHL. NHL made it even more boring a few years ago after Whinezerman complained. I would like to see all 16 non-playoff teams have a shot at the top 5 picks. Why should crappy teams load up for 4-5 years with top 5 picks??? Time to take power away from GMs. Imagine the hype and excitement if all 16 teams had a shot at the top 5 picks in a weighted format that still gives the odds to bottom teams but for first five, not first two.
 

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The NHL should give the best pick to the team that finishes in 17th place.

The worst teams should not get the best picks in a cap league. Most of the time, the teams that finish last don't usually need the 1oa the most anyways.
 
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Draft lottery for top 3 picks…

Tier 1: 30-32 placed teams have an equal rating.
Tier 2: 27-29 placed teams. Equal weighting but lesser than Tier 1.
Tiers 3: 24-26 placed teams. Equal weighting but lesser than Tiers 1 & 2.
Tier 4: 21-23 placed teams. They can enter lottery in Tier 3 by giving up THEIR 4th round pick.
Tier 5: 17-20 placed teams. They can enter lottery in Tier 3 by giving up THEIR 3rd round pick.

I don’t feel there should ever be limits on high picks. All drafts &/or Top 3 picks are not the same. Should a team be penalized because they had high picks in crappy drafts?
 
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Sanderson

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Draft lottery for top 3 picks…

Tier 1: 30-32 placed teams have an equal rating.
Tier 2: 27-29 placed teams. Equal weighting but lesser than Tier 1.
Tiers 3: 24-26 placed teams. Equal weighting but lesser than Tiers 1 & 2.
Tier 4: 21-23 placed teams. They can enter lottery in Tier 3 by giving up THEIR 4th round pick.
Tier 5: 17-20 placed teams. They can enter lottery in Tier 3 by giving up THEIR 3rd round pick.

I don’t feel there should ever be limits on high picks. All drafts &/or Top 3 picks are not the same. Should a team be penalized because they had high picks in crappy drafts?
They aren't getting penalized for getting high picks in a "crappy" draft, they simply get worse odds (or no chance at the top picks) than teams that have been worse than them this season, as it should be.

The draft exists to help the weakest teams gain talent. Now, sometimes teams that aren't completely horrible have an atricious season, but for the most part the worst teams ar at the bottom. There is zero reason to give teams who were somewhat close to making the playoffs a chance at the best picks. The whole idea runs counter to what the draft is about.

There is no reason to try and balance out "weaker" drafts, because you don't know whether a draft has actually been weaker until years later.
 
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WeaponOfChoice

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Just do a fully weighted lottery. Have the team that finishes last have 16 balls and have the team that finishes one spot out of the playoffs have one ball.
 

PlayersLtd

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Almost always the worst teams are the worst for a reason and need the most help.
This. The idea of dooming terrible teams to the basement of the league more than they currently are has never made sense to me.

OP is thinking about entertainment value on lottery day alone, which is a very narrow way of looking at it.
 
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PlayersLtd

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absolutely not you don't want to reward teams for not playing great to continue to not playing great.
That's right, and destin teams to the basement in perpetuity. In other words, literally kick them while they're down and increase the odds of doing it year over year over year.

If some teams can't figure it out when awarded high picks, what do you think is going to happen if you take the high picks away?
 
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The draft exists to help the weakest teams gain talent. Now, sometimes teams that aren't completely horrible have an atricious season, but for the most part the worst teams ar at the bottom. There is zero reason to give teams who were somewhat close to making the playoffs a chance at the best picks. The whole idea runs counter to what the draft is about.

It may seem like semantics, but that’s not true at all.

The draft is there just as much for the best team in the league, as it is for the worst team in the league.

It’s primarily a means to distribute the signing rights of each new cohort of players among the all the teams, in such a way that no one team can hoard all the prospects, and so that only one team at a time holds a player’s signing rights, avoiding the bidding wars and rapid salary increases that come from multiple teams competing for the services of the same player.

In the interest of promoting parity, it was decided that the worst teams should have priority during the allocation of players. But that shouldn’t be conflated with the false notion that promoting parity is the primary purpose of the draft.
 
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Grifter3511

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Bettman and the league want $$$. They want expansion. Shitty teams/news teams being shitty forever causes fans to stop attending and paying attention = not good. They need shitty/new teams to get good as quickly as possible. Swung the pendulum slightly too far with Vegas but vegas also took some clever minds to exploit the potential.
 

Crow

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Deserve is subjective. Could be argued NO team "deserves" anything.
It’s a slippery slope on who deserves something but there are cases you can say they don’t deserve anything. If the owner is just being blatantly cheap despite making huge amounts of money I wouldn’t say they deserve good draft picks. Both Chicago MLB teams are examples of that to different extents.
 

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