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OT: MLB Discussion Thread Part III: Jeter announces retirement after 2014

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RGY said:
This is pure ignorance.
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This isn't a NY Rangers' board? Right. Jeter, Mr Lowkey, didnt build himself a humble little place called St Jetersberg, and isn't now announcing months in advance his intention to retire so he can kick off his post-career p.r campaign and **** the same adoring fans of more of their hard-earned cash? Please already.
Nice work by the captain too in not drawing attention from his team's spring training work for his own personal agenda.

The guy is the most glorified singles hitter in creation. It's going to be a blast watching his entrepreneurial attempts at being Jay-Z fizzle.
 
Zil said:
This is the baseball thread on the Ranger board. Were you expecting people in here to be talking about something other than baseball?
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Just found it odd is all;

Think I'll head over to Yankees.com to discuss Ryan Callahan.
 
RGY said:
I usually agree with you but this is just way off.

He deserves his 9 months of attention just the way Mo did. Not many players will repeat what he was able to do. 20 years with one organization. 5 championships. He is and always will be a rockstar idol. In the biggest market in baseball he carried himself with such class and integrity. He respected the game. I will always appreciate everything he did. He deserves to go out however he wants to.
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It's just a difference of opinion. Both Michael Jordan and Wayne Gretzky -- the greatest athletes in the history of their respective sport -- never announced they were retiring BEFORE the season started.

In fact, Jordan did it twice.

Mantle -- retired after the season
Dimaggio -- retired after the season
Ruth -- retired mid-season

The idea that Jeter needs 9 months of celebrations on some farewell tour in order for fans/players to show their appreciation is the purest form of BS you'll ever find.

It was a mutual decision between the Yankees and Jeter to recoup as much as they can off his retirement.

The adulation and place in history happens AFTER they retire. It shouldnt happen while they are playing over the course of an entire season.

By announcing he was retiring at season's end, Rivera opened up the vault. Jeter saw what Rivera got, and wants his cake.

$253 million in salary since becoming a pro in 1995.
 
Maybe he announced his retirement because it's better for the Yankees organization to know and plan around? He's put the team ahead of himself his entire career. It's just sad that Jeter retiring has brought out all the buttmad Yankee haters who would rather cause a stink than appreciate the greatest shortstop of all time in his final season. He's a guy that wasn't associated with PEDs, always played the game the right way, and has had more top moments than any other player in his generation.... but no, he's a Yankee, so let's downplay his accomplishments.

It's almost disrespect for the history of the game to hate on a legend like Jeter.
 
Callahan Auto said:
Maybe he announced his retirement because it's better for the Yankees organization to know and plan around? He's put the team ahead of himself his entire career. It's just sad that Jeter retiring has brought out all the buttmad Yankee haters who would rather cause a stink than appreciate the greatest shortstop of all time in his final season. He's a guy that wasn't associated with PEDs, always played the game the right way, and has had more top moments than any other player in his generation.... but no, he's a Yankee, so let's downplay his accomplishments.

It's almost disrespect for the history of the game to hate on a legend like Jeter.
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And Gretzky didnt? Jordan didnt? Mantle? Ruth? Dimaggio? Mattingly?

I'm a Yankees fan, and I have been for a long time. There is absolutely no justification for a 9-month farewell tour.

"Jeter's last at bat with partly cloudy skies and a two-run deficit"

"Jeter's last at-bat against Jose Valverde while he wears green-rimmed glasses"

"This is the last time we'll see Jeter DH on t-shirt giveaway day"

Mentally preparing myself.
 
18 years in the game.
.312 lifetime batting average
5 world series championships
3300-3500 hits (depending on how many he gets this season)
.308 hitter in the post season for his career.

Yeah, very ****ing overrated.
 
Lundsanity30 said:
18 years in the game.
.312 lifetime batting average
5 world series championships
3300-3500 hits (depending on how many he gets this season)
.308 hitter in the post season for his career.

Yeah, very ****ing overrated.
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No one can deny Jeter has been a terrific Punch & Judy hitter; but he also benefitted tremendously from some totally stacked teams, with the Yanks having all the money in the world; 9 months of self-promotion & glowing goodbyes every night on the news is too much to endure; what, now he's going to come to CitiField and the Mets are supposed to bestow gifts on him?
I'd give him a giant bag of ****.
This guy wasnt even the best shortstop on his team! No one ever says anything nice about ARod, but it was pretty gracious of him moving over to 3rd base. I realize this is blasphemous to Yankee fans, but the truth hurts sometimes;
Hey, youse wanted to talk baseball, right? LOL
 
Todd Harvey said:
No one can deny Jeter has been a terrific Punch & Judy hitter; but he also benefitted tremendously from some totally stacked teams, with the Yanks having all the money in the world; 9 months of self-promotion & glowing goodbyes every night on the news is too much to endure; what, now he's going to come to CitiField and the Mets are supposed to bestow gifts on him?
I'd give him a giant bag of ****.
This guy wasnt even the best shortstop on his team! No one ever says anything nice about ARod, but it was pretty gracious of him moving over to 3rd base. I realize this is blasphemous to Yankee fans, but the truth hurts sometimes;
Hey, youse wanted to talk baseball, right? LOL
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The Mets don't have to do anything but they will because they can cash in on Jeter's fame.

As far as AROD goes, if he would have played ss his whole career and the steroid stuff hadn't come out we'd be talking about him being the greatest ss of all time. The fact that he's arguably the better player on the team doesn't do much to discredit Jeter.
 
Todd Harvey said:
The guy is the most glorified singles hitter in creation. It's going to be a blast watching his entrepreneurial attempts at being Jay-Z fizzle.
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38th all time in doubles. ;)

Only active players with more doubles than Jeter are Manny Ramirez and Todd Helton.
 
He's a career .446 slugger which is great for a ss. To put that in perspective, Ripken is a career .447 slugger.

Jeter didn't deserve some of his gold gloves and the "Jeter's defense is overrated" argument was born. It has since snowballed into "ZOMG Jeter is soooo overrated."

Jeter is one of the greatest ss's to ever play the game, that is a fact. There's only one guy that consistently gets ranked ahead of him on all time lists and he played 100 years ago.
 
stan the caddy said:
He's a career .446 slugger which is great for a ss. To put that in perspective, Ripken is a career .447 slugger.
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HA! If one wanted to compare Ripkin & Jeter as 'sluggers' - and truly have the proper perspective - they'd also note Ripkin 79 more doubles than Mr. 38 All-Time; that Ripkin had 175 more home runs without the benefit of a ridiculous porch in right, and that he had 434 more RBI's than Mr Clutch Captain. Just sayin'.
Same time you'd have to give Jeter a break too; he batted top of the order while Ripkin was always in a prime run-producing spot. Then again, a lot of Ripkin's teams totally sucked, whereas Jeter had great opportunities to drive in runs even from the 1-2 hole because the Yanks were so deep.
So you could go on for a while. But I wouldnt speak of the two in the same breath when it came to genuine slugging. Ripkin was a far more feared hitter.
 
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I'd have Jeter as the 3rd best SS of all time behind Wagner and Ripken.

Not including A-Rod.
 
Todd Harvey said:
HA! If one wanted to compare Ripkin & Jeter as 'sluggers' - and truly have the proper perspective - they'd also note Ripkin 79 more doubles than Mr. 38 All-Time; that Ripkin had 175 more home runs without the benefit of a ridiculous porch in right, and that he had 434 more RBI's than Mr Clutch Captain. Just sayin'.
Same time you'd have to give Jeter a break too; he batted top of the order while Ripkin was always in a prime run-producing spot. Then again, a lot of Ripkin's teams totally sucked, whereas Jeter had great opportunities to drive in runs even from the 1-2 hole because the Yanks were so deep.
So you could go on for a while. But I wouldnt speak of the two in the same breath when it came to genuine slugging. Ripkin was a far more feared hitter.
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You wouldn't speak of the two in the same breath when it comes to genuine slugging even though the stat that measures slugging says they're identical? This is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on here.
 
stan the caddy said:
You wouldn't speak of the two in the same breath when it comes to genuine slugging even though the stat that measures slugging says they're identical?
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darko said:
I'd have Jeter as the 3rd best SS of all time behind Wagner and Ripken.

Not including A-Rod.
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And the funny thing is if Ripken was playing now he'd get hated on for his modest OBP. There's nothing wrong with putting Jeter ahead of Ripken or Ripken ahead of Jeter. It's a good arguement. And then you have Wagner, who's career began before the Titanic sank, that goes to show you how great Jeter's career has been.
 
stan the caddy said:
And the funny thing is if Ripken was playing now he'd get hated on for his modest OBP. There's nothing wrong with putting Jeter ahead of Ripken or Ripken ahead of Jeter. It's a good arguement. And then you have Wagner, who's career began before the Titanic sank, that goes to show you how great Jeter's career has been.
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Agree.
 
jeter is one of the best shortstops of all time despite not being a wizard defensively. it also reminds me of mike piazza who is considered the greatest hitting catcher in mlb history but he was probably mediocre at best behind the plate.
 
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