Proposal: Mittlelstadt, Johnson for Foligno

Sebastien

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Lol Minnesota says no easy! Minnesota doesn't need an ld or d for that matter. No foligno isn't getting traded. No matter what Middlestat doesn't have that value
 
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Lol Minnesota says no easy! Minnesota doesn't need an ld or d for that matter. No foligno isn't getting traded. No matter what Middlestat doesn't have that value
Foligno is a useful play but the Sabers would be crazy to trade Johnson for him straight up.
 

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Mittelstadt is interesting, but we're fine on LD prospects.

But I don't see Guerin breaking up our matchup checking line anytime soon.
 

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Sabres send two Minnesotans home for Buffalonian Marcus Foligno. The Wild get younger, while the Sabres get some more experience and someone who can add some much needed physicality.
No chance man, try sending your first from Minnesota too. Foligno has no value
 

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Foligno is a useful play but the Sabers would be crazy to trade Johnson for him straight up.
Johnson is nothing. He's a free agent and ld Minnesota is stacked at. D alone for future us a position Minnesota is stacked at. Casey Middlestat is worth a 2nd

No chance man, try sending your first from Minnesota too. Foligno has no value
Lol Buffalo fan did this
 

toddkaz

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Johnson is nothing. He's a free agent and ld Minnesota is stacked at. D alone for future us a position Minnesota is stacked at. Casey Middlestat is worth a 2nd


Lol Buffalo fan did this
"Johnson is nothing"

A hockey fan said this?
 

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"Johnson is nothing"

A hockey fan said this?

"Johnson is nothing" is just as defensible an opinion as "Foligno has no value". Probably even moreso.
 

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Foligno is an excellent defensive player and provides physical elements and secondary scoring. I don't see how Mittelstadt and Johnson's rights address anything with Minnesota that would make them want to move him for that return.
 
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"Johnson is nothing" is just as defensible an opinion as "Foligno has no value". Probably even moreso.
I should rephrase it. Foligno has no value to Buffalo. Foligno is 32 next season, injuries take a toll on a physical player. It doesn't make sense for Buffalo to trade away 2 players under 24 for someone who probably wont be in the NHL in 3 years.
 

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"Johnson is nothing" is just as defensible an opinion as "Foligno has no value". Probably even moreso.
Read it. I said Johnson is nothing to Minnesota because we are stacked at LD. Apparently you are ignoring that. Tge same Johnson who might not even sign with Buffalo?
 

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I should rephrase it. Foligno has no value to Buffalo. Foligno is 32 next season, injuries take a toll on a physical player. It doesn't make sense for Buffalo to trade away 2 players under 23 for someone who probably wont be in the NHL in 3 years.

Counterpoint: Johnson is 8 months away from being an unrestricted free agent that can sign with any team he wants, and with Dahlin and Power in front of him on the depth chart, he's as good as gone from Buffalo. So really you're not losing anything in that regard, because he's already gone.
 

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Foligno is an excellent defensive player and provides physical elements and secondary scoring. I don't see how Mittelstadt and Johnson's rights address anything with Minnesota that would make them want to move him for that return.
Reinhart got a 1st and Levi and Buchnevich got a 2nd

Did the market change for forwards?

Counterpoint: Johnson is 8 months away from being an unrestricted free agent that can sign with any team he wants, and with Dahlin and Power in front of him on the depth chart, he's as good as gone from Buffalo. So really you're not losing anything in that regard, because he's already gone.
Not yet. Buffalo could also trade his rights away. Didn't Vesey rights get a 3rd?
 

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I wonder if Johnson takes a look at Middleton/Merrill and thinks "I can beat those guys and play with my current linemate Brock Faber."

I'd be game to sign him this upcoming offseason for free.

I've seen a few fans from different teams willing to trade a late 1st for Foligno. I'd consider that in this draft.
 

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Reinhart got a 1st and Levi and Buchnevich got a 2nd

Did the market change for forwards?


Not yet. Buffalo could also trade his rights away. Didn't Vesey rights get a 3rd?
Reinhart asked for a trade. Rangers wanted Sami and were desperate to get rid of Pavel. Big difference is foligno type player don't get traded. Even Arizona gave Crouse 5 years extension
 

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I wonder if Johnson takes a look at Middleton/Merrill and thinks "I can beat those guys and play with my current linemate Brock Faber."

I'd be game to sign him this upcoming offseason for free.

I've seen a few fans from different teams willing to trade a late 1st for Foligno. I'd consider that in this draft.

I would also think that Johnson looks at the 4-7 on the Sabres and figures he can beat out all of them as well. The narrative about there being some other players ahead of him? For a guy who doesn't play PP on his collegiate team? Nah, doesn't hold water.
 
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toddkaz

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Reinhart asked for a trade. Rangers wanted Sami and were desperate to get rid of Pavel. Big difference is foligno type player don't get traded. Even Arizona gave Crouse 5 years extension
Reinhart asking for a trade doesn't lower his value and he was property of Buffalo. Chychrun asked for a trade, Eichel asked for a trade. Not sure thats a point in your favor.
 

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I would also think that Johnson looks at the 4-7 on the Sabres and figures he can beat out all of them as well. The narrative about there being some other players ahead of him? For a guy who doesn't play PP on his collegiate team? Nah, doesn't hold water.
If Buffalo is going to trade for a player with a physical element to his game that can chip in some offense then that player should be 25-28 but Foligno doesn't really fit the window for Buffalo.
 

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