Miro Heiskanen Vs Rasmus Dahlin
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oconnor9sean
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I feel very confident that Miro will finish top-3 in Norris voting this year. He’s benefiting from the regime change more than any other Star.
He finally gets to run the #1 PP like he should’ve been doing all along. He’s now at 6 points through 7 games + 1 period, and his point totals was the only thing keeping him from serious conversation in past years.
Add in the fact that he’s at worst top-3, and arguably #1 in terms of dmen in their own zone, and that has Norris nominee (and possible win) written all over it.
I love Dahlin’s game, and think he’s gonna be an all-star level Dman for a long time, but I think Miro is a tier above him.
He finally gets to run the #1 PP like he should’ve been doing all along. He’s now at 6 points through 7 games + 1 period, and his point totals was the only thing keeping him from serious conversation in past years.
Add in the fact that he’s at worst top-3, and arguably #1 in terms of dmen in their own zone, and that has Norris nominee (and possible win) written all over it.
I love Dahlin’s game, and think he’s gonna be an all-star level Dman for a long time, but I think Miro is a tier above him.
TheDawnOfANewTage
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Bruh I cannot wait for Matthews vs. Eichel to roll around again.
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Dahlin shouldn't get votes. He played a part in Sweden's collapse against Canada and Heiskanen beat Canada.
Kcb12345
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Miro has been absolutely unreal to start this season in every regard. Just dominant at both ends.
Dahlin has been as well though, or at least offensively from what I've seen. Haven't watched enough Sabres games to know how he is doing defensively but haven't seen or heard anything negative there like in past years, so I imagine he's been good too
Dahlin has been as well though, or at least offensively from what I've seen. Haven't watched enough Sabres games to know how he is doing defensively but haven't seen or heard anything negative there like in past years, so I imagine he's been good too
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I go with close. Miro is miles better defensively and now seem to have gotten more PP. Dallas also play with a new system, that allows them to attack more. Dahlin looks to have found a new gear offensively and is killing it pointwise.
JAS 39 Gripen
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It's close, haven't watched much hockey at all this season. I do think that, going forward, it's gonna be interesting to see if Dahlin can keep his offense up while getting even better defensively, which I've heard he's showing signs of. Heiskanens skating ability and smarts are awesome though. Thinking he's gonna be the "overall" better D, while Dahlin gets to lead him in points and being worse in his own zone for a while, but he also has 1 year of development on Dahlin.
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Can't we just love both players? How about we compare bad contracts instead. Benn vs Skinner, now that's a discussion I'm sure both teams fans could get into 
Zach716
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The narrative about Dahlin’s defense is being crushed (unsurprisingly) as he doesn’t have the insane restrictions placed upon him by Krueger, and the team around him is improving. Offensively, it’s not really a debate. Both top d-men but it’s great to see Granato let his guys play.
ChicagoBullsFan
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This probably makes me a judas in Finnish fans group but i voted Dahlin.
And why i did it here's the reason.
Dahlin is coming norris trohpy level dman
meanwhile Heiskanen hasn't showed jack-shit yet.
Heiskanen has struggled with scoring and if his points are something 35-40 PTS
per season that's not at all enough for a winning norris trophy or even get involved norris voting.
I don't give a damn of that how many IIHF worlds etc medals or stanley cups Heiskanen will win.
But if he truly is franchise dman for Dallas Stars then he should start play like that
and that time is now when Klingberg is gone.
Right now there's 5 norris candidates in NHL for this seasons norris voting.
Those guys are 1 Karlsson 2 Makar, 3 Josi and 4 Dahlin and 5 Fox.
Heiskanen shouldn't even get considered for norris candidate
this season if he cannot score at least 70 points because real norris level dmans
score 80-90 points per season.
You don't pay 8,4 million USD for a dman who scores only 35-40 points per season.
So if Heiskanen wants to be a worth of his 8 yrs contract and 8,4 million salary
then it is a damn time to start score those points
which will make him norris trophy candidate.
If Heiskanen cannot start score like real norris and franchise level dman does
then it is time to question Heiskanen's 3rd overall pick from 2017 NHL draft.
And why i did it here's the reason.
Dahlin is coming norris trohpy level dman
meanwhile Heiskanen hasn't showed jack-shit yet.
Heiskanen has struggled with scoring and if his points are something 35-40 PTS
per season that's not at all enough for a winning norris trophy or even get involved norris voting.
I don't give a damn of that how many IIHF worlds etc medals or stanley cups Heiskanen will win.
But if he truly is franchise dman for Dallas Stars then he should start play like that
and that time is now when Klingberg is gone.
Right now there's 5 norris candidates in NHL for this seasons norris voting.
Those guys are 1 Karlsson 2 Makar, 3 Josi and 4 Dahlin and 5 Fox.
Heiskanen shouldn't even get considered for norris candidate
this season if he cannot score at least 70 points because real norris level dmans
score 80-90 points per season.
You don't pay 8,4 million USD for a dman who scores only 35-40 points per season.
So if Heiskanen wants to be a worth of his 8 yrs contract and 8,4 million salary
then it is a damn time to start score those points
which will make him norris trophy candidate.
If Heiskanen cannot start score like real norris and franchise level dman does
then it is time to question Heiskanen's 3rd overall pick from 2017 NHL draft.
Kcb12345
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One of the worst posts ive seen on HFBoards
Watch a game or 2 from Heiskanen this season. You'll be surprised at how much he was being held back by coaching. Looks like a completely different player offensively because he finally has that freedom. None of those dmen would produce the way they did under the Stars offense and behind John Klingberg these last few seasons. Finally though this season Dallas seems to have an offense and a coach who encourages defensemen to get involved. It's night and day for Miro so far. He's free
Also even if Miro did only score 40 points somehow, his play is so dominant all over the ice that he's still easily worth his contract. One of the few players in the league you can say that for
In what world is makar ahead of dahlin in this year's Norris voting? I believe EK will continue strong and crush makars totals and put and end to the generational label you been quickly added to his name. Would be hilarious if a old broken down EK on one leg wins norris over them on the shittiest team in the league. Would put things into perspective on how good EK was in his prime.
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Dahlin looked fantastic last year. A small decline with Kruger but the kid is literally one of the all time scoring leaders for Dman teenagers. But yeah, he’s just become good this year. Miro wasn’t thrust into being a 1D on a crappy team as an 18 year old.
Who's Middlestat? And why he goes against Mariner?
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TheDawnOfANewTage
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..why you do that? I make joke, Eich is on another team now and his departure was unpleasant, f*** him- but he is playing fantastic and Matthews no. And you are so insecure in this that you bring up some argument that wasn’t done to death, so it is not a funny, and you force me to point out that I want nothing to do with marner’s overpaid diva ways. We just shipped a dude like that outta town and shit is roses since, you think I want the bootleg version of that?
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GOALOFSSON
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? Nothing about Dahlin was really wrong. The issues you have with the post are Heiskanen related.
