Prospect Info: Minnesota Wild Prospect Rankings #8

[DigitalBoldy]

Addison. #8 next.

1. Marco Rossi (65%)
2. Jesper Wallstedt (96%)
3. Danila Yurov (45.3%)
4. Carson Lambos (59.0%)
5. Brock Faber (60.3%)
6. Liam Ohgren (76.4%)
7. Calen Addison (50%)
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[TaLoN]

ROR again

 

[57special]

Thanks for doing this @Digitalbooya ! Helps while away the summer days.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Thanks for doing this @Digitalbooya ! Helps while away the summer days.

Appreciate that, thank you! The start times for the threads have been a little wonky with my work schedule (4am!), but we are getting there. Certainly helps to have arguably the best prospect pool in the league to discuss.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Appreciate that, thank you! The start times for the threads have been a little wonky with my work schedule (4am!), but we are getting there. Certainly helps to have arguably the best prospect pool in the league to discuss.

We need better depth at goalie before we can say that. I will say that we are top 5...maybe even top 3 and that's with Boldy graduating

 

[TaLoN]

We need better depth at goalie before we can say that. I will say that we are top 5...maybe even top 3 and that's with Boldy graduating

Meh, we're fine.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

We need better depth at goalie before we can say that. I will say that we are top 5...maybe even top 3 and that's with Boldy graduating

Name two better prospect pools.

 

[57special]

Appreciate that, thank you! The start times for the threads have been a little wonky with my work schedule (4am!), but we are getting there. Certainly helps to have arguably the best prospect pool in the league to discuss.

 

[Circulartheory]

We need better depth at goalie before we can say that. I will say that we are top 5...maybe even top 3 and that's with Boldy graduating

Sure depth is nice but when it's highlighted by the best goalie prospect in the world, we'll survive

 

[thestonedkoala]

Name two better prospect pools.

Buffalo, Columbus, Detroit. Could also throw in Anaheim as well.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Buffalo, Columbus, Detroit. Could also throw in Anaheim as well.

Show them side by side 1-20 and tell me why Columbus or Detroit or Anaheim are better. Buffalo is the only one with a legit argument for being better IMO.

 

[AKL]

Show them side by side 1-20 and tell me why Columbus or Detroit or Anaheim are better. Buffalo is the only one with a legit argument for being better IMO.

I'm super confused on how Anaheim could be considered better by any stretch of the imagination. Zegras and Drysdale are graduated, that leaves McTavish and... a bunch of mid grade guys?

Columbus, I don't know, maybe if you really like Ceulemans. Sillinger and Chinakhov are graduated there, but Jiricek and Johnson are good prospects.

Wings were a really good pool but with Seider and Raymond graduated I can't see a great argument there either.

 

[Prior]

To me it’s some combination of Khusnutdinov or Peart here.

And whether you like the sure bet Khusnutdinov who will absolutely play a role in the NHL based on his game and skating. Only question is if he can stick at center and how high is ceiling is. Or Peart, who I think has massive discrepancies between his absolute potential and the likelihood he carves out an NHL career.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

I'm super confused on how Anaheim could be considered better by any stretch of the imagination. Zegras and Drysdale are graduated, that leaves McTavish and... a bunch of mid grade guys?

Columbus, I don't know, maybe if you really like Ceulemans. Sillinger and Chinakhov are graduated there, but Jiricek and Johnson are good prospects.

Wings were a really good pool but with Seider and Raymond graduated I can't see a great argument there either.

I hadn't watched much of Ceulemans, but have watched all his full games this summer at the Canada camp, my impression solely off of his play in these mid-summer, but competitive, games: Not a good player at the current moment, poor decision making, mediocre puck skills, poor balance and awkward skating, gets beaten by speed and misreads his lane coverage. I see the physical tools as having potential, but he is a long way off from being an effective player at higher levels.

tl:dr I do not really like Ceulemans.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I wonder who had the "best" prospect pool in ~2017 and how they're doing.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Show them side by side 1-20 and tell me why Columbus or Detroit or Anaheim are better. Buffalo is the only one with a legit argument for being better IMO.

Let's do the top 10 from each group based off what their fans have to say, I'm also having to use this from mid-season: The NHL's Top 100 Prospects - Midseason Rankings

Detroit:

1. LD Simon Edvinsson
2. LC Marco Kasper
3. RW Jonatan Berggren
4. LD Albert Johansson
5. GT Sebastian Cossa
6. RD William Wallinder
7. LW Elmer Söderblom
8. LD Shai Buium
9. LW Dmitri Buchelnikov
10. LW Dylan James

Anaheim:
1. Mctavish, C
2. Mintyukov, LHD
3. Dostal, G
4. Zellweger, LHD
5. Perreault, RW
6. Gaucher, C
7. Luneau, RHD
8. Pastujov, RW
9. Thrun, LHD
10. Clang, G

Columbus:
1. Johnson
2. Jiricek
3. Mateychuck
4. Marchenko
5. Ceulemans
6. Tarasov
7. Del Bel Belluz
8. Blankenburg
9. Voronkov
10. Foudy

Minnesota:
1. Marco Rossi (65%)
2. Jesper Wallstedt (96%)
3. Danila Yurov (45.3%)
4. Carson Lambos (59.0%)
5. Brock Faber (60.3%)
6. Liam Ohgren (76.4%)
7. Calen Addison (50%)
8. Ryan O'Rourke
9. Marat Khusnutsdinov
10. Adam Beckman

Minnesota Wild has depth, but the question is how high the ceiling is that depth and when is that depth going to come over here? Yurov and Khusnutsdinov are both in Russia and there is question if they are going to stay or come over. More so, Minnesota has one legitimate center in the top 10 and after that there are some question marks if Khusnutsdinov is going to stick or not at pivot. More so, there is huge question marks after about the 2nd or 3rd guy in Minnesota's prospect pool. I'd say after the 3rd guy about how high their ceilings are. Lambos maybe end up being a middle pair guy, Faber too.

Anaheim Ducks have a lot of balance with their group with two goalies, a couple of wingers, a talented center and some strong depth at defense.

I can see an argument against Columbus, because like Minnesota they have set up their prospect pool with depth at defensemen.

 

[thestonedkoala]

I wonder who had the "best" prospect pool in ~2017 and how they're doing.

Ranking the Top 10 NHL Prospect Pools After the 2017 Draft

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bleacherreport.com

Bleacher has Tampa Bay?

TSP: NHL Organizational Prospect Pool Rankings Top 10

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LWOS

1/ Philadelphia
2/ Arizona
3/ New Jersey
4/ Nashville
5/ Minnesota
6/ Carolina
7/ Vancouver
8/ Tampa Bay
9/ New York
10/ Blues

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Ranking the Top 10 NHL Prospect Pools After the 2017 Draft

NHL teams have been stocking prospect cupboards for 100 years and it remains a staple of success. In fact, procurement of youngsters is even more important in the salary-cap era, when players are being lost to free agency or trade every summer...

bleacherreport.com

Bleacher has Tampa Bay?

TSP: NHL Organizational Prospect Pool Rankings Top 10

Welcome to the 2017 edition of “Top Shelf Prospects”. Today's edition is our annual NHL organizational prospect pool rankings.

lastwordonsports.com

LWOS

1/ Philadelphia
2/ Arizona
3/ New Jersey
4/ Nashville
5/ Minnesota
6/ Carolina
7/ Vancouver
8/ Tampa Bay
9/ New York
10/ Blues

That Philly vs. Arizona Cup matchup... any day now...

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Let's do the top 10 from each group based off what their fans have to say, I'm also having to use this from mid-season: The NHL's Top 100 Prospects - Midseason Rankings

Detroit:

1. LD Simon Edvinsson
2. LC Marco Kasper
3. RW Jonatan Berggren
4. LD Albert Johansson
5. GT Sebastian Cossa
6. RD William Wallinder
7. LW Elmer Söderblom
8. LD Shai Buium
9. LW Dmitri Buchelnikov
10. LW Dylan James

Anaheim:
1. Mctavish, C
2. Mintyukov, LHD
3. Dostal, G
4. Zellweger, LHD
5. Perreault, RW
6. Gaucher, C
7. Luneau, RHD
8. Pastujov, RW
9. Thrun, LHD
10. Clang, G

Columbus:
1. Johnson
2. Jiricek
3. Mateychuck
4. Marchenko
5. Ceulemans
6. Tarasov
7. Del Bel Belluz
8. Blankenburg
9. Voronkov
10. Foudy

Minnesota:
1. Marco Rossi (65%)
2. Jesper Wallstedt (96%)
3. Danila Yurov (45.3%)
4. Carson Lambos (59.0%)
5. Brock Faber (60.3%)
6. Liam Ohgren (76.4%)
7. Calen Addison (50%)
8. Ryan O'Rourke
9. Marat Khusnutsdinov
10. Adam Beckman

Minnesota Wild has depth, but the question is how high the ceiling is that depth and when is that depth going to come over here? Yurov and Khusnutsdinov are both in Russia and there is question if they are going to stay or come over. More so, Minnesota has one legitimate center in the top 10 and after that there are some question marks if Khusnutsdinov is going to stick or not at pivot. More so, there is huge question marks after about the 2nd or 3rd guy in Minnesota's prospect pool. I'd say after the 3rd guy about how high their ceilings are. Lambos maybe end up being a middle pair guy, Faber too.

Anaheim Ducks have a lot of balance with their group with two goalies, a couple of wingers, a talented center and some strong depth at defense.

I can see an argument against Columbus, because like Minnesota they have set up their prospect pool with depth at defensemen.

And the other teams, after the 2nd/3rd guys, are just a murder's row of iron-clad no-doubters?

 

[thestonedkoala]

And the other teams, after the 2nd/3rd guys, are just a murder's row of iron-clad no-doubters?

For Detroit and Anaheim I'd say yes, especially Detroit. I'd say they are about 5-7 deep and Anaheim around 4-7

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

For Detroit and Anaheim I'd say yes, especially Detroit. I'd say they are about 5-7 deep and Anaheim around 4-7

There’s nothing different about their 4-7’s than ours.

 

[thestonedkoala]

There’s nothing different about their 4-7’s than ours.

Absolutely there is.

BTW Minnesota has done a fantastic job of building up their base without multiple top 10 pick.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Absolutely there is.

BTW Minnesota has done a fantastic job of building up their base without multiple top 10 pick.

Our 3-7 is better than all of Detroit, Columbus, and Anaheim. 7-15 is where our prospects really start to separate from the other teams. The only spot I would say we don’t have as good of players is 1 and 2 specifically comparing against Columbus.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Our 3-7 is better than all of Detroit, Columbus, and Anaheim. 7-15 is where our prospects really start to separate from the other teams. The only spot I would say we don’t have as good of players is 1 and 2 specifically comparing against Columbus.

The problem is you're comparing players of different positions.

1. LD Simon Edvinsson > Carson Lambos
2. LC Marco Kasper = Marco Rossi
3. RW Jonatan Berggren > Daniela Yurov (Berggren is already in the AHL playing)
4. LD Albert Johansson > Ryan O'Rourke
5. GT Sebastian Cossa < Jasper Wallstedt
6. RD William Wallinder = Brock Faber (I have no idea, apparently outside of Edvinsson, he's their best defensive prospect, which is debatable as some have Johansson above Wallinder)
7. LW Elmer Söderblom = Adam Beckman
8. LD Shai Buium = Daemon Hunt
9. LW Dmitri Buchelnikov
10. LW Dylan James

Anaheim:
1. Mctavish, C > Rossi
2. Mintyukov, LHD > Lambos
3. Dostal, G < Wallstedt
4. Zellweger, LHD > O'Rourke
5. Perreault, RW > Yurov
6. Gaucher, C > Khusnutsdinov
7. Luneau, RHD = Faber
8. Pastujov, RW > Novak?
9. Thrun, LHD > Hunt
10. Clang, G >>> Jones

Columbus:
1. Johnson > Rossi
2. Jiricek > Faber
3. Mateychuk = Lambos
4. Marchenko = Yurov
5. Ceulemans = Addison
6. Tarasov < Wallstedt
7. Del Bel Belluz > Khusnutsdinov
8. Blankenburg
9. Voronkov
10. Foudy > ?

 

[P10p]

The problem is you're comparing players of different positions.

1. LD Simon Edvinsson > Carson Lambos
2. LC Marco Kasper = Marco Rossi
3. RW Jonatan Berggren > Daniela Yurov (Berggren is already in the AHL playing)
4. LD Albert Johansson > Ryan O'Rourke
5. GT Sebastian Cossa < Jasper Wallstedt
6. RD William Wallinder = Brock Faber (I have no idea, apparently outside of Edvinsson, he's their best defensive prospect, which is debatable as some have Johansson above Wallinder)
7. LW Elmer Söderblom = Adam Beckman
8. LD Shai Buium = Daemon Hunt
9. LW Dmitri Buchelnikov
10. LW Dylan James

Anaheim:
1. Mctavish, C > Rossi
2. Mintyukov, LHD > Lambos
3. Dostal, G < Wallstedt
4. Zellweger, LHD > O'Rourke
5. Perreault, RW > Yurov
6. Gaucher, C > Khusnutsdinov
7. Luneau, RHD = Faber
8. Pastujov, RW > Novak?
9. Thrun, LHD > Hunt
10. Clang, G >>> Jones

Columbus:
1. Johnson > Rossi
2. Jiricek > Faber
3. Mateychuk = Lambos
4. Marchenko = Yurov
5. Ceulemans = Addison
6. Tarasov < Wallstedt
7. Del Bel Belluz > Khusnutsdinov
8. Blankenburg
9. Voronkov
10. Foudy > ?

So wrong on so many of these....

Thinking Detroit has a better pool than us is comedy.