Line Combos: Mikheyev, Engvall or both on the 3rd line?
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DraftSchmaft
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Mik is in playoff form and Kase is playing too cautious and fumbling the puck a lot. Needs to find a balance between too reckless and too cautious. Line is absolutely terrible. Kampf has looked very good though so he gets a pass.
Time to audition some youngsters soon maybe.
Time to audition some youngsters soon maybe.
ShaneFalco
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Mik is fast and everything but doesn't fit in the top 6 and is wasted on the 4th line. Sell high
SeaOfBlue
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- Aug 1, 2013
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Their xGA/60 numbers are actually elite. It is just their xGF/60 numbers are just not good at all (a lot of which probably has to do with not getting many HD chances).
Important to keep in mind that this is a line that only starts 27% of the time in the offensive zone at ES, and a lot of their offense is something they generate through a lot of hard work.
If we are talking ideals, they win a draw in their own end and can immediately rush the puck down the ice and either score or start a cycle. If they don't get the puck out immediately, however, they usually do not have enough energy left to really start a long cycle and rack up offensive possession numbers, but they set the table for our top 6 to come on and do their thing. Every other guy in our lineup, except guys like Engvall and Kerfoot, have well over 50% OZS% because of that line, and they are the ones who are getting paid to generate offense.
Who is playing 2nd line then?
I voted for Mikheyev - Kampf - Kase as well, because I think it should work. Granted, I agree it is not. All recent success for Mik and Kamph has been on the PK and some for Kase on the PP... as a unit, they are not producing much, but it also feels like they are not giving up much. At the end of the day, if this line has a low low xGA, I think I am good with that since our top 2 lines and PP SHOULD be able to provide enough offence.
zeke
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Yep he's right on.
Mikheyev-Kampf-Engvall has been great and Mikheyev-Kampf-Kase has been bad.
For me I would go with Mikheyev-Kampf-Engvall as a defensive/forechecking line (I don't care if you call it a 3rd line or a 4th line) and try to go with a more offensive set up for the Spezza line with kase or kerfoot with Spezza and simmonds/(Marlie).
Wouldn't mind seeing Kase get a look on the Tavares line in kerfoot's spot - not sure he'd be an upgrade there but he might.
Bunting --- Matthews --- Marner
Kerf/Kase --- Tavares --- Nylander
Kerf/Kase --- Spezza --- Simmonds/Marlie
Mikheyev --- Kampf --- Engvall
Of course, even better would be trading for a Hertl or even a Giroux, which gives us the chance of icing a 3rd scoring line like
Kerf/Kase --- Hertl/Giroux --- Spezza
Agree, we can substitute Kerfoot with Giroux on the 2nd line
We just need Philly to retain 50% and we’ll give them a 2023/2024 1st + mid prospect
On the bolded, I find it odd I keep reading Florida and Avs as constantly being the front runners for Giroux’s services, I think leafs have better prospects to outbid. Not suggesting they should, but leafs don’t seem to be associated with any Giroux rumours which I find strange. Unless there are some underlying numbers that should be of concern regarding Giroux, they should be in on him
ACC1224
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Works for me.Agree, we can substitute Kerfoot with Giroux on the 2nd line
We just need Philly to retain 50% and we’ll give them a 2023/2024 1st + mid prospect
