Mika Zibanejad

[MakoSlade]

If Mika needs to sit out games because he’s having panic attacks, that sounds like a textbook case for voiding a contract.

Ha, you wish! Maybe IR or even LTIR to get his head together, but voiding a contract is kind of a big deal with a lot of potential blowback.

 

[Devilsfan2326]

You win the award for “biggest heartless ghoul”

Lol. His comment, and your retort, made me think of this scene:

 

[MasterofGrond]

So my team needs to carry one of the worst contracts in the league and basically carry dead space at times because he’s a baby?

Would you like that for your own team?

Do you think most NHL’ers (let alone people in society) don’t have some moments that might constitute a panic attack? Yeah, and most just suck it up and get on with it.

Not telling the guy he can’t get help or sit out games, but if he doesn’t want to fulfill his contract responsibilities because of his panic attacks, his contract really should be voided.

Brother what year do you think it is

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Jesus Christ. This is one of the most heartless things I’ve ever seen on this board. How tf can you root for your team and then talk about the players as if they are disposable crap like that?

He’s being a baby, void the contract. Brutal attitude. And just on a purely “logical” point, gl with the PA putting up with that excuse for one second. They aren’t voiding his contract for this, full stop.

Because a panic attack isn’t a physical sickness. If he had a physical sickness, I’d understand.

It’s a mental illness, and sorry I don’t really understand about a guy making 8.5M a year to start grouching about a mental sickness. Everyone deals with stuff like that and unfortunately we don’t get to take off work with full pay and without losing our jobs.

 

[MasterofGrond]

Because a panic attack isn’t a physical sickness. If he had a physical sickness, I’d understand.

It’s a mental illness, and sorry I don’t really understand about a guy making 8.5M a year to start grouching about a mental sickness. Everyone deals with stuff like that and unfortunately we don’t get to take off work with full pay and without losing our jobs.

“Only physical ailments are real”

He’s not a spreadsheet jockey, he’s one of the best in the world at something incredibly difficult. “We all deal with it” is f***ing moronic, on like 3 axes.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

“Only physical ailments are real”

Okay let’s see if you like having 8.5 of dead space on your salary cap because you have a player grouching about being mentally ill.

Easy to say from your perch where it has no ramifications towards your interests.

 

[MasterofGrond]

Okay let’s see if you like having 8.5 of dead space on your salary cap because you have a player grouching about being mentally ill.

I am telling you right now I am ok with it.

Because I LOVE hockey but some things are legitimately more important than hockey. Lot of things in fact.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

I'd say age and Trocheck emerging into a #1C.

 

[TBF1972]

So my team needs to carry one of the worst contracts in the league and basically carry dead space at times because he’s a baby?

Would you like that for your own team?

Do you think most NHL’ers (let alone people in society) don’t have some moments that might constitute a panic attack? Yeah, and most just suck it up and get on with it.

Not telling the guy he can’t get help or sit out games, but if he doesn’t want to fulfill his contract responsibilities because of his panic attacks, his contract really should be voided.

what triggers that reaction in you? is it a panic attack because of the shitty cap situation of the rangers?

be a man and suck it up!!!

He was 1PPG+ 3 of 4 years at his best. Led the NHL in goals per game in 2019-20. During a three year stretch was 16th in total points and 9th in goals leaguewide.

Whether he was a good enough player for his team when it mattered most is a fair question, but he was absolutely a 1C at his best.

some even called him a top 5 forward in the league ...

 

[Cursed Lemon]

More like

Mika Zi-bad-ejad

 

[Lua]

Do you think most NHL’ers (let alone people in society) don’t have some moments that might constitute a panic attack? Yeah, and most just suck it up and get on with it.

Educate yourself about what a panic attack is. It isn't something you can just "suck up" in the moment. The symptoms are acutely physical and have nothing to do mental resilience or any other human quality a person does/doesn't have

 

[RedRocking]

Because a panic attack isn’t a physical sickness. If he had a physical sickness, I’d understand.

It’s a mental illness, and sorry I don’t really understand about a guy making 8.5M a year to start grouching about a mental sickness. Everyone deals with stuff like that and unfortunately we don’t get to take off work with full pay and without losing our jobs.

A panic attack isn’t throwing your hands up and saying “OMG, I’m like so stressed out right now!”

A legit panic attack can have serious physical symptoms. You can have severe chest pain and problems breathing. If that’s happening during games, that’s as debilitating as any physical injury.

If it’s reached that point, there’s likely something more serious going on than just general anxiety common to high stress jobs.

 

[FanCos]

I'd say age and Trocheck Kakko emerging into a #1C.

Right now this is the reality within the NYR squad, relatively speaking.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

So my team needs to carry one of the worst contracts in the league and basically carry dead space at times because he’s a baby?

Would you like that for your own team?

Do you think most NHL’ers (let alone people in society) don’t have some moments that might constitute a panic attack? Yeah, and most just suck it up and get on with it.

Not telling the guy he can’t get help or sit out games, but if he doesn’t want to fulfill his contract responsibilities because of his panic attacks, his contract really should be voided.

Yikes man, you're usually a way better poster than this. I get that Zibanejad is probably gonna end up being an albatross but you can't just tell someone to "suck it up". If it were that easy, people would legit do it, stuff like this leads into other grotesque shit if you don't get it fixed.

As for the NYR part, they made their bed on that deal and the NHLPA is not gonna allow some team to just void a contract because of that. He had concussion issues previous to Drury being an imbecile and inking that contract, why wasn't an issue raised then? Drury also could've flipped him after getting Eichel from Vegas which was also talked about. The Rangers have no one else to blame but themselves and they aren't/shouldn't get out of jail free card in this regard.

 

[NYRfan39]

Okay, and I'll state to you that sound like a baby. Everyone suffers with mental illnesses, at times. You aren't unique. There's nothing special about your mental illness.

Not everyone plays the victim about it. Some of us just deal with it and get on with life instead of trying to tell the world to get sympathy.

I understand your stance. Everyone has mental struggles. Some of us deal with it. Some of us do something about it. (see a therapist). Some don't, even resulting in suicide.

However, you simply misunderstand the severity of mental illness. This isnt just a, "ugh my job sucks, im stressed." Or "My kids are driving me insane."
You may be fortunate that your personal mental illness has been relatively manageable, but that doesn't mean the magnitude is universally equal. Theres a reason why psychiatrists exist. Theres a reason why medicine is increasing its focus on mental illness. Its not a simple "toughen up kid."

Id even argue that Mika or any professional athlete, a 0.001% of the population is more susceptible to mental pressures than the majority of us working our 9-5 jobs at home as a regular civilian. As an athlete all eyes are on you. You get paid to perform and when you don't, the fanbase turns on you.

Having said all that, Mika has not been good and needs a shakeup. There is no denying that. But its understandable (and okay) to be both frustrated as a fan and have empathy for a player who is struggling.

 

[Whoot Whoot]

this mess

 

[Dust]

If Mika needs to sit out games because he’s having panic attacks, that sounds like a textbook case for voiding a contract.

Sounds like a textbook case for someone entering the NHL player assistance program. If teams voided contracts because of mental illness there'd be no league left.

 

[Mrfenn92]

This thread has been paveled

 

[T REX]

Not be alarmist or anything,but i was at work one day got dizzy and felt off balance and 3 years later I’m on disability with a benign brain tumour and cerebral tonsillar ectopia. Just a steady decline every 6-8 months

Sending you healing thoughts and vibes.

 

[scoopscj]

Mental health struggles are real and he as them. Hope he can fight though it. As a person, I wish him well and hope he comes out the other side better. Regardless of the jersey he wears, he's a person underneath. Rangers can pound sand, but hope he gets better.

 

[T REX]

I understand your stance. Everyone has mental struggles. Some of us deal with it. Some of us do something about it. (see a therapist). Some don't, even resulting in suicide.

However, you simply misunderstand the severity of mental illness. This isnt just a, "ugh my job sucks, im stressed." Or "My kids are driving me insane."
You may be fortunate that your personal mental illness has been relatively manageable, but that doesn't mean the magnitude is universally equal. Theres a reason why psychiatrists exist. Theres a reason why medicine is increasing its focus on mental illness. Its not a simple "toughen up kid."

Id even argue that Mika or any professional athlete, a 0.001% of the population is more susceptible to mental pressures than the majority of us working our 9-5 jobs at home as a regular civilian. As an athlete all eyes are on you. You get paid to perform and when you don't, the fanbase turns on you.

Having said all that, Mika has not been good and needs a shakeup. There is no denying that. But its understandable (and okay) to be both frustrated as a fan and have empathy for a player who is struggling.

great post. thanks

 

[JSSSTP]

Educate yourself about what a panic attack is. It isn't something you can just "suck up" in the moment. The symptoms are acutely physical and have nothing to do mental resilience or any other human quality a person does/doesn't have

100%. Found out that panic and anxiety attacks give me seizures, learned the hard way with a few bangs and gashes to the head when I’ve went down

 

[DevilDog99]

Mental health struggles are real and he as them. Hope he can fight though it. As a person, I wish him well and hope he comes out the other side better. Regardless of the jersey he wears, he's a person underneath. Rangers can pound sand, but hope he gets better.

Assume much?

"Grouching about being mentally ill" "It's not a physical illness "Just deal with it"

As someone who has battled with mental illness myself, witnessed it with my loved ones and work to help people affected by it, seriously man, f*** you.

Seperate the person from the player. As a Rangers fan, F Mika and get him off the team!

As a human, i don’t know him but wish him the best.

These are separate.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Because a panic attack isn’t a physical sickness. If he had a physical sickness, I’d understand.

It’s a mental illness, and sorry I don’t really understand about a guy making 8.5M a year to start grouching about a mental sickness. Everyone deals with stuff like that and unfortunately we don’t get to take off work with full pay and without losing our jobs.

A panic attack is absolutely a physical ailment, which is why it requires a central nervous system depressant (typically a drug in the benzodiazepine class) to resolve it

 

[Nogatco Rd]

If Mika needs to sit out games because he’s having panic attacks, that sounds like a textbook case for voiding a contract.

What part of the CBA allows for that, in your opinion?