Media Availability - End Of Season (2022)

[A1LeafNation]

Marazek sucks

He has good career numbers, wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if Campbell and Mrazek returned.

 

[ShaneFalco]

So you don't know what change is and you still want it?

Do any of us have advisors, scouts, contacts all around the league, assistants, player development folks, trainers etc etc

 

[A1LeafNation]

John has a NMC he's not going anywhere

players with NMC have been moved in the past.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

So just complain about it without having any reasonable solutions of your own? You sound like my ex

I guess I can be like you and kiss ass and say “welp, we tried, 115 point team, etc”. I suppose that’s better right?

 

[ACC1224]

There are some questions about Dubas not being aggressive enough to LTIR Muzzin for the season.

Other than that, I think you guys need to calm down. The leafs were not blessed enough to play the Kings in the 1st round.

The Kings are in the other conference, that was never an option.

 

[Cams]

So just complain about it without having any reasonable solutions of your own? You sound like my ex

They should consult the posters on here for real change and winning formulas?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

He has good career numbers, wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if Campbell and Mrazek returned.

Marazek sucks, did you not watch him last year, even if he didn't suck he has 32 games combined in the last 2 years he can't come back he almost literally can't play

 

[Apex Predator]

What's your idea for change?

This is just my opinion so please don’t get all worked up like others do on this board. I think we need to get a goalie that can consistently steal games for us. We need to sacrifice goals for so we have a goalie that can trust consistently in the net. It might cost as a Nylander but we need to shift some of the salary cap allocation to a goalie.

Look at that stretch where we couldn’t get a save. If Leafs had that they are in first and playing Washington not Tampa. When our defense has defensive mistakes we need the goalie to bail us out.

I like Campbell but he’s not the guy to do that. Price carried that habs team to the finals. Vasi shut the door down when it matter. Jake Oetinger kept Dallas i a game they didn’t belong in. We still can still have the fire power to get those 2-1 wins.

 

[killer1980]

It doesn't surprise me, I'm just trying to be the voice of reason to balance out the people that can't control their emotions. I'm not the only one, glad to see that anyway.

Of course the presser's are always cliche, I've been saying that before they start every year and I never watch. I catch some clips on the 24 hour news channel and that's it.


A few posters here were saying that we'd be a bubble team this season as well and after our poor start, their numbers went up exponentially. I said if even after our poor start and I'll say it again now, and write this down, the Leafs will cruise to the playoffs.




I don't know where you're getting your numbers from but these are the game 7 numbers from moneypuck and they say the Leafs played great in game 7. I only share these numbers because they match what I saw - Vasi played amazing and stole the game for them.

MoneyPuck.com

Real Time Hockey Win Probabilities In Game

www.moneypuck.com

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The bar for me in the playoffs has always been the same - play your asses off and leave it all out there.

We failed in 2018 when we played listlessly and got dominated 4-0 in the 3rd period of game 7 by BOS.
We failed in 2019 when we played listlessly and got dominated in game 7 by BOS.
We failed in 2020 when we played listlessly and got dominated in game 5 by CLB.
We failed in 2021 when we played listlessly and got dominated in game 7 by MTL.

This year was the first year in a long time when I can't complain about how we played in game 7.

We had a very good regular season. I don't care about that much TBH, for a team like the Leafs that's a virtual lock for the playoffs it's nothing more than a 82 game warm up and our record in November means dick to me. I also don't care that we improved from 6-7th to 4th or whatever, it's not completely meaningless but the playoffs are where it's at, at least for me. Still, it was a good season.

We played well in the playoffs. Could have been better but I guess you can always say that. There's no shame in going down the way we did though, hopefully next season we have a better goaltending performance and do some dominating on our way to the finals.

Vasi sucked in the first 6 games. If he played like he's capable, this series does not go past 6. Campbell played his normal game and was not bad but couldn't steal one.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

players with NMC have been moved in the past.

I know but do you see Tavares waiving? I find it unlikely

 

[Gary Nylund]

they have yet to win a round, not a cup, A ROUND, we aren't talking about a team that has been to 2 conference finals or a cup final and just haven't gotten over the hump, they haven't won A ROUND.

54 wins and 115 points is great but if doesn't mean jack shit if you can't win a round

that's called failure

So what would do in you were in charge? Fire everyone and then go from there?

Screaming for major change made a lot more sense a year ago but they played so well this season and in the playoffs so things are different now. I will acknowledge that they fell short again, call it "failure" if you like but if you don't acknowledge that there were a lot of positives this season and that this playoff loss was a lot different then previous ones then thank god you're not in charge is all I can say.

Minor, relatively inconsequential changes yes. Not the kind of changes we might need. There’s a reason this team is 0-10 in elimination not matter who they replace around the core. Those changes have obviously made no difference.

The problem is the core of this team can’t get it done and our goaltending is weak. Management doesn’t seem to have the balls to change anything though so we just repeat the same script year after year.

It’s frustrating as the Isles literally fire their coach after back to back ECF appearances and one missed playoffs. We‘re too afraid of any change whatsoever but management acts “frustrated” when results are the same.

Like wth kind of bizarro world do they live in.

What changes would you like to see and how do you know what they will or won't change?

I'll go first. If Trotz is available, I think that's worth looking into and I hope Dubas isn't overly loyal to Keefe to the point where he won't even consider this. If he is, then frankly I'd fire him but other than that, I like most of the moves Dubas has made.

We badly need a #1 goalie. I'd even be willing to move a star player like Nylander/Marner if that's what it takes to get it done.

Other than that, I like our team a lot. The bottom 6 came up short in the playoffs so there will be some changes there but that's pretty minor stuff. I hope Giordano's back, love what he brought to the team. So basically the only major changes I'd make are whatever's required to get us a real #1 goalie.

 

[Brobust]

Do any of us have advisors, scouts, contacts all around the league, assistants, player development folks, trainers etc etc

Oh yeah, talking about potential trades and player values etc etc is something that never goes on in here.

How ridiculous of me to ask for ideas from people here.

 

[ACC1224]

No, because none of us even know what those potential available changes may be.

You want to act like they can’t be judged because the path isn’t obvious. They make millions to figure it out. Not us.

Exactly.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

They literally changed their starting goalie last offseason. Is that not a big change?

I have no idea the point you were trying to make.

Read my post before the one you responded to. Not hard to do.

 

[ShaneFalco]

They should consult the posters on here for real change and winning formulas?

Nahhh just keep the same guys who can't get it done because noone on a Leaf forum can tell you exactly how everything would work.

 

[Eyedea]

He interviewed budenholzer


Probably bc you did a shitty job and failed.

I think what is said is they are doing good work here still.

My mistake. Point being is that I doubt a vet coach like Trotz would move the needle. This was an extremely unfortunate draw for the first round and the Leafs were hard pressed when attempting to exercise their demons against the B2B cup champs. Everyone is so worked up about our stars not having that killer instinct come game 7, but Stamkos/Point(rip)/Kucherov weren't the killers either. Playoffs always breed different beasts and their depth players (Hagel, Colton, Paul) were outplaying and outproducing in comparison to the Leafs'.

 

[Hoglund4MvP]

So you don't know what change is and you still want it?

Lose to jackets when you're way better.

Lose to Habs when you're wayer than way better.

Lose to Tampa when their entire core didn't show up to best of their ability for any game and Point played hurt.

God forbid the teams match up evenly next year and both cores show up and there's no change. We are getting swept.

So we should be the ones asking you the questions not the other way around.

 

[Brobust]

This is just my opinion so please don’t get all worked up like others do on this board. I think we need to get a goalie that can consistently steal games for us. We need to sacrifice goals for so we have a goalie that can trust consistently in the net. It might cost as a Nylander but we need to shift some of the salary cap allocation to a goalie.

Look at that stretch where we couldn’t get a save. If Leafs had that they are in first and playing Washington not Tampa. When our defense has defensive mistakes we need the goalie to bail us out.

I like Campbell but he’s not the guy to do that. Price carried that habs team to the finals. Vasi shut the door down when it matter. Jake Oetinger kept Dallas i a game they didn’t belong in. We still can still have the fire power without to get those 2-1.

I agree, but that goalie will be very hard to find. I'd be fine with a Gibson-Nylander trade.

 

[Nylanderthal]

I guess I can be like you and kiss ass and say “welp, we tried, 115 point team, etc”. I suppose that’s better right?

I’m not suggesting that, it’s be suggested re evaluating the coaching staff considering the available candidates and turning over a large chunk of the middle of this team, not just the edges.
I’ve still yet to see a realistic proposal that moves out any of the 5 highest paid players on the team and icing a better line up next year.
Cutting ties with 35 36 3 8 15 25 47 & 65 creates 21m in cap room, you have two young d men ready to step in and you have plan for one of your young guys to take one forward spot, that leaves a lot of cap flexibility to add a starting goalie, a back up and some north south forwards.

 

[WTFMAN99]

The habs who swept the jets and dummied cup favourite Vegas on their way to finals? They caught an unprecedented heater by an all time goalie that took them 3 wins from a cup… who cares that they sucked this year with their 3 most important players gone…
Past years problems shouldn’t be hung on the current group, just cause we as fans wear every loss each season is a fresh start for a group that will undoubtedly look different compared to the start of this past season

I was here to say that was probably about the most frustrating load of crap I have heard during that presser. I did want to say this though...

Jets basically cost themselves the series once Scheifele got suspended.

I didn't like the Knights centre depth all year

Tampa, you knew the magic was done then.

Not revisionist history either. Jets likely could have been a difficult opponent for the Leafs assuming no Schiefele suspension. I think if the Leafs did beat the Jets, we actually would have gotten Tampa in round 3 which would have put us a step short of MTL.

Anyways yea, frustrating press conference. You give a rookie coach the team as great as everyone says we have and to lose vs CBJ, MTL and then Tampa up 3-2 and the coach is given assurance less than a week after the loss. Unbelievable.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Marazek sucks, did you not watch him last year, even if he didn't suck he has 32 games combined in the last 2 years he can't come back he almost literally can't play

I agree super injury prone the last two years.

He still has good career numbers and played well before injury.

Ideally I'd like an upgrade.

 

[Nylanderthal]

Lose to jackets when you're way better.

Lose to Habs when you're wayer than way better.

Lose to Tampa when their entire core didn't show up to best of their ability for any game and Point played hurt.

God forbid the teams match up evenly next year and both cores show up and there's no change. We are getting swept.

So we should be the ones asking you the questions not the other way around.

The jackets and leafs were in a statistical tie in pts% through 70/82 games, not sure where the idea that they were “way better” comes from.
Sweet narrative about Tampas core not showing up, way to squeeze that dogshit tidbit in there

 

[A1LeafNation]

Read my post before the one you responded to. Not hard to do.

I did and I read the ppl who responded to it. You made no sense.

 

[Craigo85]

Dubas just said in the presser that he doesn't regret paying the core 4 so much instead of spreading around the money because he believes they held their end of the bargain and played well. So, we also know that we lost basically because the bottom of the roster did nothing compared to TB's bottom 6 and this guy see's it as a win. What can you say at this point? They are so intent on winning their way and ONLY their way that they are willing to sacrifice everything. Seems very stupid and stubborn to me.

Haven't watched it yet. And what he says externally could be different when talking to Shanny given media pouncing on his core players based on something he said isn't ideal.

For his evaluation internally at MLSE, I'd be wondering what he thought of the "core's" performance the 3 prior years when evaluating them. Also goals aren't everything. Out of the 4 core forwards I liked Mitch a lot, Matthews was okay/good (i expected more heart from the Hart candidate), but Willy and Tavares left me wanting more from an effort/playoff hockey perspective.

Also, Dubas blaming the bottom of our roster is a little rich. If you look at goals or points per cap hit, our bottom players weren't bad. Tampa's top players weren't great. If Paul didn't score 2 goals in game 7, I'm not sure how much talk there'd be about Tampa's bottom 6 vs ours.

For 40.5M AAV and 574 mins of playing time our "Core 4" scored 12 goals and 30 points. That's 0.297 goals per Million and 0.74 points per million.

For 13.48M AAV and 719 mins of playing time our other forwards scored 7 goals and 20 points. That's 0.519 goals per Million and 1.48 points per million.

Only thing I'd like to have seen from our non-core 4 forwards: 2-3 additional goals from these guys

Bunting - probably 1 more point, ideally a goal. 1 Goal is a little low but he missed out blowout game 1 and may have been injured.

Spezza - 1 goal would have been great, but he had 40 mins of ice time.

Egnvall/Kase - had 3 points each, a goal would have been nice

Kerfoot - 1 goal, 1 assist is a little low


But getting 1 goal from Blackwell and 2 from each of Mikheyev + Kampf was good.

 

[Dreakmur]

The jackets and leafs were in a statistical tie in pts% through 70/82 games, not sure where the idea that they were “way better” comes from.

I'm sure it comes from all the crowing about how Keefe had us on pace for over 100 points, and we were only so low in the standing because of Babcock's slow start....