Media Availability - End Of Season (2022)

[mikeyz]

Exactly.
Certainly not cutting his teeth on a supposedly championship-caliber team. Kind of like investing tens of millions of dollars into producing the very best F1 car then turn around and give the keys to rookie driver in the hope that 10 years from now, when he learns how to drive, they'll win a race.

This is actually a perfect comparison!

 

[hamzarocks]

Leafs earning respect and losing well is similar to other idiotic saying by faltering management groups

"I think we are visually better than our record" Craig MacTavish in 2014 after the Oilers missed the playoffs for the 9th straight time

 

[fahad203]

You guys just don't get it because you have watched hockey for so long.......Dennis Malgin was acquired because he reminds Dubas so much of Nick Patan who is extremely similar to Jeremy Bracco who might at best become Kerfoot who is a passable 3rd line winger who does not drive any line he plays on.

That is how you "change the game", set out to acquire small, soft, wingers who are not skilled enough to be skilled players in the NHL, but are completely useless in a bottom 6 role to surround your already small and lacking physicality top end players who do produce.

I am so out of touched. So you are saying we need to bring back Kyle Wellwood?

 

[ACC1224]

Thinking more about it, I think it's because of the no-shows we've had in game 7s in the past. For instance, in 2021 vs MON we looked scared all game long and didn't give a solid effort. This year, the boys actually played and tried to generate but couldn't do it (due to being boxed out)

And for some reason, that's fine with people. Us as Leaf fans are so conditioned to losing horribly that a "normal" loss is now something to be fine with. Just shows you how far off this team is from anything successful

The problem with having such a large fanbase is it includes a large population of people who really don't understand sport.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Spezza isn’t the problem.

The entire third line couldn’t get a puck in deep.

Soft.

If only we had a 3rd line centre with some offensive touch and some tenacity to win……

Our management is the same as our on life talent.

To cutesy. Apathy is a choice.

Mr flexible GM isn’t very flexible.

Everyone conplaining about penalties being taken as reason to not have physicality in our line up is living a dream.

We lead the league in PIM while trotting out team soft.

If we are going to get penalties, might as well earn them. They can’t call it all.

Member Jared McCann? We had him. We didn't want him. We wanted Justin Holl.

 

[Amadeus]

Thoroughly unimpressed with the leadership team and the media for asking extremely soft questions.

5 years of failure and they're still tasked to fix this.

 

[ACC1224]

Member Jared McCann? We had him. We didn't want him. We wanted Justin Holl.

 

[Lemontree]

I am so out of touched. So you are saying we need to bring back Kyle Wellwood?

Not necessarily, just spend every resource trying to unearth the next Wellwood.....if and when that day happens.....watch out NHL.

 

[fahad203]

Not necessarily, just spend every resource trying to unearth the next Wellwood.....if and when that day happens.....watch out NHL.

A line with Wellwood, Petan and Malgin
It's all coming together now

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Thinking more about it, I think it's because of the no-shows we've had in game 7s in the past. For instance, in 2021 vs MON we looked scared all game long and didn't give a solid effort. This year, the boys actually played and tried to generate but couldn't do it (due to being boxed out)

And for some reason, that's fine with people. Us as Leaf fans are so conditioned to losing horribly that a "normal" loss is now something to be fine with. Just shows you how far off this team is from anything successful

This is just unreasonable. It wasn't a "normal" loss, it was the most respected loss of all time

 

[TheShape]

I feel like a lot of are new to these? Doesn't matter who they are or which team they are, it's always this.

It's not even the off-season yet either.

I know that this is all PR 101 and take what these people say with a grain of salt. But after 6 straight years of this I think it’s fair for people to expect to at least hear something a little different.

It’s appropriate to put some heat on the players, accountability, own the losses and failures.

 

[Superstar]

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LOL...ya know, there's still 9 lives, the perfect 10, and 11 heaven...

 

[Gary Nylund]

re: bolded....

This surprises anybody on here? Too many of the posts on here for years have been 20/20 hindsight/defeatist/conspiracy/i know better because I did on my NHL video game GM mode

Of course a presser like this is going to be loaded with cliche - why would it be any different? No sensible management group/GM would publicly call out their players to national media - especially in a place like Toronto.

It doesn't surprise me, I'm just trying to be the voice of reason to balance out the people that can't control their emotions. I'm not the only one, glad to see that anyway.

Of course the presser's are always cliche, I've been saying that before they start every year and I never watch. I catch some clips on the 24 hour news channel and that's it.

Considering a few of us have been spot on since the Dubas hired, "they will never win a playoff series if they make Dubas GM." My prediction for next year that all my haters don't care about, and write this down, Leafs will be life and death to make the playoffs. If they make the playoffs, an even earlier exit.

A few posters here were saying that we'd be a bubble team this season as well and after our poor start, their numbers went up exponentially. I said if even after our poor start and I'll say it again now, and write this down, the Leafs will cruise to the playoffs.

Where the hell did this "we lost well" narrative begin? Game 7 looked JUST like the final games against Columbus and Montreal. The PP was an atrocity and the team was boxed out to the perimeter all game. Is it just because Tampa is a better team, so we're more accepting of the usual nonsense?

This isn't true, just because we spent 20 minute circling the perimeter doesn't mean we were the better team by a "good margin". High danger chances were equivalent and we barely won the %xGF battle 52 to 48. This is including this big "3rd period push" we were supposed to make.

Tampa knew how to play us. Keep it to the perimeter and block every shot possible. We couldn't counter it, just like we couldn't in years past. The reason I say someone will do this to us again next season is because its been done to us 3 years in a row now. CBJ gave the league the playbook

I don't know where you're getting your numbers from but these are the game 7 numbers from moneypuck and they say the Leafs played great in game 7. I only share these numbers because they match what I saw - Vasi played amazing and stole the game for them.

MoneyPuck.com

Real Time Hockey Win Probabilities In Game

www.moneypuck.com

The bar is so friggin low now that if the team tries hard its a successful season - Unbelievable;e

The bar for me in the playoffs has always been the same - play your asses off and leave it all out there.

We failed in 2018 when we played listlessly and got dominated 4-0 in the 3rd period of game 7 by BOS.
We failed in 2019 when we played listlessly and got dominated in game 7 by BOS.
We failed in 2020 when we played listlessly and got dominated in game 5 by CLB.
We failed in 2021 when we played listlessly and got dominated in game 7 by MTL.

This year was the first year in a long time when I can't complain about how we played in game 7.

We had a very good regular season. I don't care about that much TBH, for a team like the Leafs that's a virtual lock for the playoffs it's nothing more than a 82 game warm up and our record in November means dick to me. I also don't care that we improved from 6-7th to 4th or whatever, it's not completely meaningless but the playoffs are where it's at, at least for me. Still, it was a good season.

We played well in the playoffs. Could have been better but I guess you can always say that. There's no shame in going down the way we did though, hopefully next season we have a better goaltending performance and do some dominating on our way to the finals.

 

[Nylanderthal]

Only things you can read into is Keefe wasn't happy with the consistency and the special teams and closing out a series.

Which is what the razors edge difference was between them and the 2x cup champs in a 7 game war. Their depth support, goaltending and pp & pk sealed the deal in crunch time.

 

[Hoglund4MvP]

Focusing on earning respect is a disgrace.


It was a simple situation. Fortunate to be in the real NHL of 8-10 teams. The rest of the teams are practice.

We are good, we have x, but maybe we should consider y to ensure we have an extra edge to better odds we win in what will most likely be back and forth even series.

0/10 focusing on that y then coming back talking about respect. 82 games to work on y and another year they got cocky thinking the soft depth and coaching is good. Blackwell showed more heart than Engvall and mik combined but no adjustments made to bring him up for game 6 and 7 when it clear mik and engvall are finished for the series and won't do anything useful. All season to see we need a goalie, go off the board with names we don't know about even (the names we rumor about aren't the only names in play in reality, we don't know about > 90% of unspoken trade offers that happen year round), pay a little extra. Campbell only had one good month when you break it down properly.

And now they want respect? All they deserve is a slap. Do your jobs stop sitting on your ass expecting matthews and marner to do everything. They still need good things around them like some trevor moores and a good coach.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I know that this is all PR 101 and take what these people say with a grain of salt. But after 6 straight years of this I think it’s fair for people to expect to at least hear something a little different.

It’s appropriate to put some heat on the players, accountability, own the losses and failures.

Pressers are just cliche city so what does it matter? I don't care what they say, I just want us to start the next season with a solid #1 goalie.

 

[Eyedea]

Casey was fired a day or two after his presser, so maybe somebody above Shanny wakes up and tells them to sign Trotz before Vegas does.

But Masai only interviewed rookie coaches and after the search hired internally.

 

[TorMapleJays]

Member Jared McCann? We had him. We didn't want him. We wanted Justin Holl.

I was happy with that deal, but he must have played to mean for Dubas. Doesnt hit the PR feels well enough.

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

Even SJ and Ott have won multiple rounds. Eventually went to the finals too. The Leafs are more like Sacramento Kings when it comes to actual products and results.

True...but they never won it all and that used to be the goal here. They might be looking at getting to the finals as pretty much winning the cup with the way things have gone here lately.

 

[Superstar]

That goes on the back of the shirt so people know we mean business when exiting the playoffs.

Need to also change team's song to Aretha Franklin's "Respect".

 

[Throw More Waffles]

The standard of success for this team is now "At least the other team didn't laugh at us and mock us during the handshakes."

 

[ShaneFalco]

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

For everyone complaining about all the standard cliches we're about to hear, what would you say in their place?

I wouldn't say anything because if I failed at my job as much as Dubas and Keefe have failed at their jobs, there would be nothing to say because I wouldn't have a job because I'd be fired

so would you and everybody else

and rightly so might I add

 

[Apex Predator]

Another prospect that might be close is Pontus Holmberg. They’re thinking a prospect or two will be on the team. Those ELC will help with navigating the cap. They need to figure out the goalie situation because it’s slim pickings in the free agency market and the guys the top guys will be signing for more than what Mrazek makes.

 

[A1LeafNation]

But Masai only interviewed rookie coaches and after the search hired internally.

He interviewed budenholzer

I wouldn't say anything because if I failed at my job as much as Dubas and Keefe have failed at their jobs, there would be nothing to say because I wouldn't have a job because I'd be fired

so would you and everybody else

and rightly so might I add

Probably bc you did a shitty job and failed.

I think what is said is they are doing good work here still.