Mcdavid - finally regressing?

[Soundwave]

He's got 28 points in his last 14 games.

More impressive is 11 goals in those 14 games. That shows me his 60-ish goal scoring level is coming back after being gone last year due to injury.

Probably but it's not as cut-and-dried as it used to be. I'd have to think it over if I was offered McDavid or MacKinnon. That was unthinkable a couple of years ago.

Outside of that one stacked year where MacKinnon had a loaded roster around him, look at the results the last two seasons with more normalized/comparable rosters.

The Avs lose to a Seattle team in round 1, Seattle being maybe one of the worst teams to make the playoffs recently, and beaten easily in round 2 last year by a Dallas team that McDavid and co. dispatched in 6 without too much fuss.

The Oilers according to Marchessault gave the Knights their best competetion in the 2023 playoffs and then came within 2 goals of winning the Cup last year.

McDavid is better, his team results are better when given more comparable levels of talent to work with.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

More impressive is 11 goals in those 14 games. That shows me his 60-ish goal scoring level is coming back after being gone last year due to injury.



Outside of that one stacked year where MacKinnon had a loaded roster around him, look at the results the last two seasons with more normalized/comparable rosters.

The Avs lose to a Seattle team in round 1, Seattle being maybe one of the worst teams to make the playoffs recently, and beaten easily in round 2 last year.

The Oilers according to Marchessault gave the Knights their best comp in the 2023 playoffs and then came within 2 goals of winning the Cup last year.

McDavid is better, his team results are better when given more comparable levels of talent to work with.

Yeah, it's hard to argue. Meh, you're probably right.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Go to his player discussion thread and read since October. It’s literally right there.

Someone even claimed he might have an autoimmune disease.

you referring to a post from Oct 16, when the Oilers had played 4 whole games....as a "regressing season"?

 

[SladeWilson23]

Trade him to the Devils.

 

[DeltaSwede]

I think he just needs to dig in. Like, right now.

 

[Slats432]

 

[SladeWilson23]

I think he just needs to dig in. Like, right now.

He is not good enough! He needs to win one game at home and go from there.

 

[Juxta Position]

That blue chunk of toilet paper loosely shaped like a leaf in the OP's avatar tells me all I need to know about this thread...

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

I like how the OP demands well thought out analysis from others to support his point, but provides none himself.

But it’s an Oilers troll thread, so post away!

 

[Ryder71]

He's the 3rd greatest player behind Lemieux and Gretzky. Didn't see ORR, but since the late 70's those are the top three.

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

What a low quality post. You sir should be ashamed. How has he notably declined? Site evidence

One oilers fan erupting on mcdavid in a gdt because they lost is laughable reasoning

 

[BLNY]

An incredible player and I’ll be the first to admit it.

However, since his 2022-23 form, he has notably declined and has had multiple players enter his tier (Nate, Kucherov).

Both are out scoring him the last 2 years. He clearly has some type of nagging injury or something going on. Still probably the best player in the league, but no longer the consensus best player.

 

[Jordan Belfort]

What a low quality post. You sir should be ashamed. How has he notably declined? Site evidence

It’s a legitimate question. You really think he will score 60 or 150 points again? Then he has regressed.

It’s not an outlandish statement.

 

[BallardEra]

Why distract from the subject on a personal attack and instead analyze what I’m saying?

Dude, you’ve been exposed as a fraud and a hater. Why distract from that subject at hand?

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

It’s a legitimate question. You really think he will score 60 or 150 points again? Then he has regressed.

It’s not an outlandish statement.

So matthews has regressed because he’s unlikely to top 69 goals? That’s incredibly simplistic thinking and not at all based on reality

 

[Jordan Belfort]

So matthews has regressed because he’s unlikely to top 69 goals? That’s incredibly simplistic thinking and not at all based on reality

Yes he has lol. That’s probably his peak. Players regress with age. You don’t agree with this?

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

Yes he has lol. That’s probably his peak. Players regress with age. You don’t agree with this?

I don’t agree that a player who just broke a Gretzky playoff record has notably regressed. No.

He will regress with age but the the just mentioned is peek player preformance

 

[The Panther]

No, not at all.

While MacKinnon and Kucherov (and one or two others) are certainly up there near Connor and can be the most "valuable" player in a peak season, McDavid remains the best player in the world.

Also, his overall play this season so far has been considerably better than any point last season. Last year, he never looked like himself, to me, including in the playoffs. He couldn't shoot the puck all year and was mishandling it a disturbingly high number of times. And he put up 100+ assists and then won the Conn Smythe.

He has looked healthy this year (after a minor injury re-set), is shooting the puck again, is scoring goals again, and also seems to be having fun again (there was a recent game where he said -- very unMcDavid-like -- that it was the kind of game where you never want to get off the ice.)

NHL scoring since Nov. 9th by PPG:
2.00 -- McDavid
1.70 -- Point (only 10 GP)
1.56 -- Rantanen
1.54 -- Marner
1.50 -- Kucherov

Barring injury, I expect McDavid to win the scoring title this season. Just wait and see...

 

[Grifter3511]

AHAHAHA @Jordan Belfort has been sitting behind his computer screen, grinding his teeth, pulling out his hair, biting his nails, for two years, just waiting for the day, after failing so terribly before, to dunk on McDavid.

And wait...what's this? Is it...could it be...has it finally....?

And no. He fails miserably once again. Back to the dusty confines of his parent's basement to await the day when McDavid finally ages out and he can finally revel in the piss yellow light of his bitterness.

 

[PuckG]

Best regression ever.

 

[BallardEra]

AHAHAHA @Jordan Belfort has been sitting behind his computer screen, grinding his teeth, pulling out his hair, biting his nails, for two years, just waiting for the day, after failing so terribly before, to dunk on McDavid.

And wait...what's this? Is it...could it be...has it finally....?

And no. He fails miserably once again. Back to the dusty confines of his parent's basement to await the day when McDavid finally ages out and he can finally revel in the piss yellow light of his bitterness.

I also picture a wife beater with orange Cheezies stains all over it.

 

[SI90]

He’s barely a 130 point player. Guy is totally losing it.

 

[Jordan Belfort]

AHAHAHA @Jordan Belfort has been sitting behind his computer screen, grinding his teeth, pulling out his hair, biting his nails, for two years, just waiting for the day, after failing so terribly before, to dunk on McDavid.

And wait...what's this? Is it...could it be...has it finally....?

And no. He fails miserably once again. Back to the dusty confines of his parent's basement to await the day when McDavid finally ages out and he can finally revel in the piss yellow light of his bitterness.

You realize McDavid lost the art ross race last year right

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

mackinnon has regressed because he’s unlikely to put up 140 ever again

Kucherov has regressed because he’s unlikely to put up 144

Matthews has regressed because he’s unlikely to put up 69 goals again


Pasternak is washed because he’s likely never scoring 60 or 113 ever again.

You’re not really saying anything at all worth of value here

 

[Oilslick941611]

Before anyone shits on the leaf fans for saying dumb things. He's not a leaf fan. Not one post in the leafs board and nothing about them on the mains etc... looks like a troll or attention seeker to me....

He’s well known