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Prospect Info: Matyas Melovsky (C - #171 Overall - Round 6 - 2024 Draft)

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Guadana said:
Players like him should be signed as free agents. I still like him as a pick more than Graham.
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That’s if he makes it through the rest of the 6th/7th and chooses to sign with the Devils. I haven’t seen his tape but I trust when Dennehy says they had him way earlier than what they selected him at. He also hinted they may have reached at a couple players.
 
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First all, I'd like to say that I like Melovsky. He's a good defensive center who skates well and is not afraid of the greasy areas. He's got decent size and good skates.

But you also need to add that, when taking a double over-aged player in Round 6 you simply need to hope they're not taken in the next handful of picks and you can essentially sign them to a tryout contract for free.

Melovsky was still a better pick than Graham, as he has a good shot at paving his way as a bottom six center in the AHL and an outside chance at a 4th line C role in the NHL. But it's tough to fathom why an NHL braintrust of a team with $100 million dollars paying team and staff can't figure out that they essentially wasted two picks on players they could have just signed, and instead took the two highest upside available guys in the 5th and 6th rounds and wound up with 4 prospects instead of 2.

So ultimately, I'll say it wasn't a *bad* pick because Melovsky should play a role in the organization in some capacity. I like him as a player, he has heart and some sand and defends and skates well. But as good as our Russian scouting has been, I would've preferred the team to roll the dice on a Kol or Krutov, both of whom were taken by Carolina, and then sign Melovsky tomorrow.
 
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Jason MacIsaac said:
That’s if he makes it through the rest of the 6th/7th and chooses to sign with the Devils. I haven’t seen his tape but I trust when Dennehy says they had him way earlier than what they selected him at. He also hinted they may have reached at a couple players.
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Okay. They drafted 4th line center at best. We could find one on the market. Its harder to find developed version of Krutov. You know, at least one pick for upside in the 3-6 rounds. I think Traff has some potential , but still best case scenario is Zetterlund. And I really will be happy. Reason why I like this pick more than others. Even if finding winger for bottom line is even more easier task.
 
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StevenToddIves said:
First all, I'd like to say that I like Melovsky. He's a good defensive center who skates well and is not afraid of the greasy areas. He's got decent size and good skates.

But you also need to add that, when taking a double over-aged player in Round 6 you simply need to hope they're not taken in the next handful of picks and you can essentially sign them to a tryout contract for free.

Melovsky was still a better pick than Graham, as he has a good shot at paving his way as a bottom six center in the AHL and an outside chance at a 4th line C role in the NHL. But it's tough to fathom why an NHL braintrust of a team with $100 million dollars paying team and staff can't figure out that they essentially wasted two picks on players they could have just signed, and instead took the two highest upside available guys in the 5th and 6th rounds and wound up with 4 prospects instead of 2.

So ultimately, I'll say it wasn't a *bad* pick because Melovsky should play a role in the organization in some capacity. I like him as a player, he has heart and some sand and defends and skates well. But as good as our Russian scouting has been, I would've preferred the team to roll the dice on a Kol or Krutov, both of whom were taken by Carolina, and then sign Melovsky tomorrow.
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Another oof.
 
StevenToddIves said:
First all, I'd like to say that I like Melovsky. He's a good defensive center who skates well and is not afraid of the greasy areas. He's got decent size and good skates.

But you also need to add that, when taking a double over-aged player in Round 6 you simply need to hope they're not taken in the next handful of picks and you can essentially sign them to a tryout contract for free.

Melovsky was still a better pick than Graham, as he has a good shot at paving his way as a bottom six center in the AHL and an outside chance at a 4th line C role in the NHL. But it's tough to fathom why an NHL braintrust of a team with $100 million dollars paying team and staff can't figure out that they essentially wasted two picks on players they could have just signed, and instead took the two highest upside available guys in the 5th and 6th rounds and wound up with 4 prospects instead of 2.

So ultimately, I'll say it wasn't a *bad* pick because Melovsky should play a role in the organization in some capacity. I like him as a player, he has heart and some sand and defends and skates well. But as good as our Russian scouting has been, I would've preferred the team to roll the dice on a Kol or Krutov, both of whom were taken by Carolina, and then sign Melovsky tomorrow.
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I don't think this is strictly true - so sure, you can invite a guy to development camp, or even try to sign him to an AHL deal, but this gives the Devils control over his rights entirely. Chances are that they don't even sign one of these guys to an NHL deal, which, again, I agree that the Graham pick is terrible, but they were not willing to risk A: them being drafted by someone else B: them falling through the draft and then potentially signing with someone else C: having to sign them to ELCs when they may not warrant it. This also gives both guys the option of going back to junior for an overage season without it counting on an NHL contract, which is also nice.

As an example, Ondrej Palat was drafted by Tampa in the 7th round in 2011 as a double overager, with only 4 picks left to go in the draft. They could've let him pass through the draft possibly, and then competed with other teams to sign him. They didn't sign him to an ELC until the end of training camp that year, seeing enough to justify the investment.

I think drafting one of these guys is totally fine, but two is definitely a mistake. That said, I like having a list and sticking to it - yes, you can sign a guy, but there's no guarantees.
 
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I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but I really hate drafting over-agers (let alone double over-agers, yikes!) and I think you should always go with potential and high ceilings with any draft pick. That said, it's not a bad pick. Some people are late bloomers, so you never know. He did have amazing WJCs with most assists in the tournament (tied). There were bunch of other high drafted 19 year olds he out produced in that tournament. AHL is gonna be a big step up from the Q and you'd want a 20 year old to contribute pretty soon, so we'll see how it plays out. But in reality how many 6th rounders even become regular AHLers? So in that sense I think it's an alright pick.
 
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Wasn’t Sharangovich a double overager?

He was taken in the 5th round..

If Gritsyuk pans out that could be multiple unicorns.

I feel like this teams drafts better than we realize. Their weakest drafts being the Covid drafts.


Until proven wrong, I just let the powers to be do their thing.
 
ninetyeight said:
I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but I really hate drafting over-agers (let alone double over-agers, yikes!) and I think you should always go with potential and high ceilings with any draft pick. That said, it's not a bad pick. Some people are late bloomers, so you never know. He did have amazing WJCs with most assists in the tournament (tied). There were bunch of other high drafted 19 year olds he out produced in that tournament. AHL is gonna be a big step up from the Q and you'd want a 20 year old to contribute pretty soon, so we'll see how it plays out. But in reality how many 6th rounders even become regular AHLers? So in that sense I think it's an alright pick.
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Its okay with drafting overagers. If they have interesting tools, production etc. There are no magic to be better than most as 18 yo or better than most as 19 yo.
 
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ninetyeight said:
It could be worse. But there has definitely been some questionable picks in recent years like; Chase Stillman, Cole Brown, Samu Salminen, Victor Hurtig, Artem Schlaine, Benjamin Baumgartner and probably some others..
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The decree from up top is clearly to find forwards with size and enough skill to maybe become complimentary NHLers. Though i think the two overagers from this year don’t even fall under that mission umbrella. But like it or not, the Devils aren’t interested in finding any more Jesper Bratts with late draft picks.

But i’m ok with the process so far because it seems they still know enough not to pass on the Caseys and Hameenahos when they fall.
 
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Jason MacIsaac said:

Interesting study, particularly chapter 3.
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@StevenToddIves will love this:
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