Matthews Leafs reality

[BlueBaron]

This wouldn't even be a concern or possibility if our GM was wise enough to secure our franchise player to the full 8 year max deal.

Compared to McDavid's 8 year @ $12.5 mil contract as the ceiling, and comparable, this should have been an 8 year @ $11.634 mil deal.

If Matthews should leave this will be all on the Leafs GM, because he only secured 1 year of Free Agency status, instead of 4 at this current CH% and amount.

So this wouldn't be a problem if our GM could have got a deal he couldn't get. Good story Mess. How about we call it a problem when it's actually a problem instead of channeling Oiler fans?

 

[kb]

This wouldn't even be a concern or possibility if our GM was wise enough to secure our franchise player to the full 8 year max deal.

Compared to McDavid's 8 year @ $12.5 mil contract as the ceiling, and comparable, this should have been an 8 year @ $11.634 mil deal.

If Matthews should leave this will be all on the Leafs GM, because he only secured 1 year of Free Agency status, instead of 4 at this current CH% and amount.

Brutal take again. No surprise.

He wanted an 8 year deal but the numbers wouldn't work because Lou didn't do his job first.

 

[kb]

So this wouldn't be a problem if our GM could have got a deal he couldn't get. Good story Mess. How about we call it a problem when it's actually a problem instead of channeling Oiler fans?

Yup

Anyway not looking to rock the boat.

Be amazing though, if thought ever preceded typing. Matthews and the Leafs ran all sorts of simulations and the only way to fit in everything was to go 5 years. But Matthews and the team wanted 8 years.

 

[BlueBaron]

Yup

Anyway not looking to rock the boat.

Be amazing though, if thought ever preceded typing. Matthews and the Leafs ran all sorts of simulations and the only way to fit in everything was to go 5 years. But Matthews and the team wanted 8 years.

Yeah, that's the thing. We know he wanted 8 but this was the number that worked. There is no greater indication this is where he wants to be. We Leaf fans should not be pretending this is a thing.

 

[kb]

Yeah, that's the thing. We know he wanted 8 but this was the number that worked. There is no greater indication this is where he wants to be. We Leaf fans should not be pretending this is a thing.

Exactly. All indications are that he loves it here.

 

[BlueBaron]

Exactly. All indications are that he loves it here.

A few commentators were glad Auston was home for that 50 so he could experience first hand what it is to be God in Mecca. Not many markets can compete in that regard. If he wasn't sold then he probably is now.

 

[inthe6ix]

Live in the now and appreciate what you have while you have it; everything will transpire the way it should in due time.

 

[Voodoo Child]

Arizona was never a threat but let them hope, what else can they do?

He’s probably already got a 4 million dollar six bed, nine bath, 7500 square foot ‘summer home’ with a pool and tennis courts in Scottsdale, he can go there whenever.

He’s not gonna give up the 2-5 mil extra in sponsorship deals, comped everything everywhere, being treated like God and oceans of top shelf p***y to play in front of a sellout crowd of 4200 for a team that might one day not be able to pay him, or ‘we’re relocating to Quebec City in a month.’

If he does leave he goes to the Rangers or the Kings, but for that to happen both teams need to make the cap work and be in a better position to win than the Leafs.

 

[Cournoyer12]

Arizona was never a threat but let them hope, what else can they do?

He’s probably already got a 4 million dollar six bed, nine bath, 7500 square foot ‘summer home’ with a pool and tennis courts in Scottsdale, he can go there whenever.

He’s not gonna give up the 2-5 mil extra in sponsorship deals, comped everything everywhere, being treated like God and oceans of top shelf p***y to play in front of a sellout crowd of 4200 for a team that might one day not be able to pay him, or ‘we’re relocating to Quebec City in a month.’

If he does leave he goes to the Rangers or the Kings, but for that to happen both teams need to make the cap work and be in a better position to win than the Leafs.

You are correct sir! Why would he go to play in a FIELDHOUSE! Move that franchise to Quebec City Bettman , the more Canadian teams the better!!!!

 

[SniperOnTheWing]

The Leafs can and will offer more than any other team can offer, both in terms of money/bonuses/endorsement opportunities as well as contract length. Matthews will get everything he needs and wants to stay here and it’ll be worth every penny. Won’t even surprise me if the extension is done mid-season same as it was coming out of his ELC. All he has to do is write the number he wants on Kyle’s blank check and get back on the ice for practice.

Barring some twilight years Cup chasing after our window is long closed Matthews will be a Leaf for life.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

The big issue is Matthews is about Family.

Signing up to be away from family for another 8 years isn't him.

Growing the game in USA really could be a passion for him.

His staying in Toronto isn't automatic

 

[Machinae]

This wouldn't even be a concern or possibility if our GM was wise enough to secure our franchise player to the full 8 year max deal.

Compared to McDavid's 8 year @ $12.5 mil contract as the ceiling, and comparable, this should have been an 8 year @ $11.634 mil deal.

If Matthews should leave this will be all on the Leafs GM, because he only secured 1 year of Free Agency status, instead of 4 at this current CH% and amount.

And yet, Matthews is on record saying they came to an agreement on lower term and lower dollars to save cap space.

That signals that both parties are comfortable and want to maximize winning together.

 

[Mess]

The big issue is Matthews is about Family.

Signing up to be away from family for another 8 years isn't him.

Growing the game in USA really could be a passion for him.

His staying in Toronto isn't automatic

Matthews signed a 5 year deal instead of a 8 year deal to ..

1) Maximize his short-term income.
2) Reach UFA status at completion.

When his contract is up, we will find out which one of those above takes priority in terms of maximizing his income again, or the freedom of choice where to play, as there will be no shortage of offers to pick from.

Leafs likely will be willing to give him max allowable 20% of ceiling, however being American and staying in Canada is not a guarantee, particularly when other teams in the USA can offer him similar money but in tax free / low tax so his take home pay would be much higher at the same amount.

All of Leafs Nation is hoping he stays, but I agree its not an automatic all things considered here including family, and home country, and potential earnings etc.

 

[Drytoast]

Yeah, it's not Arizona you should be worried about, it's Los Angeles.

Los Angeles, New York, Colorado, Tampa Bay, Florida...It's not going to be some small market that has no chance of sniffing the cup.

 

[34]

Why are certain hockey pundits and fans speculating Matthews leaving? This is the best place for playing in terms of attention and things to do hockey wise.

He hasn't shown any signs of disatisfaction or sherking away from responsibilities of a media heavy market.

Don’t listen to the jealous, disgruntled Oilers fans on the main board. They are all crying because Matthews is turning out to be better than any player on their team.

 

[34]

Los Angeles, New York, Colorado, Tampa Bay, Florida...It's not going to be some small market that has no chance of sniffing the cup.

For sure, it would be a big American market. He will never play for another Canadian team, that you can take to the bank.

I don’t think he leaves though. A lot depends on what the Leafs do in the next 2 seasons.

 

[Teeder Keon]

For sure, it would be a big American market. He will never play for another Canadian team, that you can take to the bank.

I don’t think he leaves though. A lot depends on what the Leafs do in the next 2 seasons.

How do you know that ?

 

[TML Dynasty]

A few commentators were glad Auston was home for that 50 so he could experience first hand what it is to be God in Mecca. Not many markets can compete in that regard. If he wasn't sold then he probably is now.

I didnt get to see it but in the interview after, people seemed to think he really showed how much it meant to him to be here. Anyone see it to corroborate?

 

[BlueBaron]

This wouldn't even be a concern or possibility if our GM was wise enough to secure our franchise player to the full 8 year max deal.

Compared to McDavid's 8 year @ $12.5 mil contract as the ceiling, and comparable, this should have been an 8 year @ $11.634 mil deal.

If Matthews should leave this will be all on the Leafs GM, because he only secured 1 year of Free Agency status, instead of 4 at this current CH% and amount.

You have to accept this wasnt an option. If he signed him to 13x8 you'd be mad about that. You can't just pull numbers out of the air and decide that's how it should have been Mess.

 

[kb]

You have to accept this wasnt an option. If he signed him to 13x8 you'd be mad about that. You can't just pull numbers out of the air and decide that's how it should have been Mess.

Yeah.....not happening. Ever. One needs to actually be a Leaf fan first, which we all see from every post that clearly isn't the case.

 

[34]

How do you know that ?

What part of the post? Are you referring to not playing for any other Canadian team other than Toronto. I say this because Toronto is the biggest and most American like City in Canada. Also happens to be the biggest hockey market in the World. IF (big if) he leaves I would think he goes to LA, NY or something like that. I am just thinking this based off of his personality. He seems to be into fashion and such.

 

[Stephen]

For sure, it would be a big American market. He will never play for another Canadian team, that you can take to the bank.

I don’t think he leaves though. A lot depends on what the Leafs do in the next 2 seasons.

The idea of the "Big American Market" as some kind of king maker for a superstar running away from Toronto doesn't fit in a sport like hockey.

Going to a place like New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Miami or even San Jose (Bay Area) sounds like a big deal on name recognition. The Raptors and Jays have been burned on that front a number of times. Chris Bosh, Roger Clemens, Kawhi Leonard, Roberto Alomar etc. But when it comes to hockey, do the Rangers and Kings break top 5 in market? Are the Hawks, Panthers and Sharks top 3 in their market?

Why downgrade yourself as the biggest star on the biggest team in biggest market?

 

[TheShape]

Brutal take again. No surprise.

He wanted an 8 year deal but the numbers wouldn't work because Lou didn't do his job first.

I have never really bought this, the numbers floating around the time were 13mx8, same cap % as McDavid adjusted to inflation. I’m pretty sure Dubas could have come up with an extra 1.4 million somewhere especially with the cap expected be going up every year (pre covid).

I’m as big of a Matthews fan as the next guy, but his camp left nothing on the table here. If they were dead set at 5 years, his cap hit should’ve been 10m, same as Eichel’s.

 

[IPS]

This wouldn't even be a concern or possibility if our GM was wise enough to secure our franchise player to the full 8 year max deal.

Do you have to be so melodramatic? Tons of superstars sign for 5 years coming off their ELC and none of them leave to other teams.

 

[Drytoast]

Live in the now and appreciate what you have while you have it; everything will transpire they way it should in due time.

Basically.

It's all out of our control. But in the meantime we get at least 2 more seasons to enjoy this player's hockey prowess at the minimum.