Matthew Tkachuk vs. Kirill Kaprizov

Who is the better player now?

  • Matthew Tkachuk

    Votes: 2 2.7%
  • Kirill Kaprizov

    Votes: 73 97.3%

  • Total voters
    75
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jcs0218

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Lol

That's it. That's my response.


One is the best winger on the planet the other is contested in his household.

As a big Matthew Tkachuk fan, this is Kaprizov AINEC
I understand people thinking Kaprizov is better. I would choose him too.

But the results now are 16-0. I am not sure if it should be that lopsided.

I am not comparing Auston Matthews to Wayne Gretzky with this poll.

Kaprizov:
2021-22 = 81 GP, 47 G, 61 A, 107 PTS
2022-23 = 10 GP, 8 G, 8 A, 13 PTS

Tkachuk:
2021-22 = 82 GP, 42 G, 62 A, 104 PTS
2022-23 = 10 GP, 5 G, 8 A, 13 PTS

See, it shouldn't be considered a total massacre.

Tkachuk also brings physical elements that Kaprizov doesn't.

Again, I would choose Kaprizov. But 16-0 seems a bit too lopsided.
 
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I understand people thinking Kaprizov is better. I would choose him too.

But the results now are 16-0. I am not sure if it should be that lopsided.

I am not comparing Auston Matthews to Wayne Gretzky with this poll.

Kaprizov:
2021-22 = 81 GP, 47 G, 61 A, 107 PTS
2022-23 = 10 GP, 8 G, 8 A, 13 PTS

Tkachuk:
2021-22 = 82 GP, 42 G, 62 A, 104 PTS
2022-23 = 10 GP, 5 G, 8 A, 13 PTS

See, it shouldn't be considered a total massacre.

Tkachuk also brings physical elements that Kaprizov doesn't.

Again, I would choose Kaprizov. But 16-0 seems a bit too lopsided.
It's not lopsided enough, and no amount of stat watching changes that.
 

jcs0218

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It's not lopsided enough, and no amount of stat watching changes that.
Do you think the difference is as big of a difference as Gretzky vs. Matthews?

As for the poster who said Kaprizov is the best winger on the planet?

I think the difference between Nikita Kucherov and Kirill Kaprizov is bigger than the difference between Kirill Kaprizov and Matthew Tkachuk.

What has Kaprizov done to be ranked ahead of Kucherov?
 
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heretik27

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I understand people thinking Kaprizov is better. I would choose him too.

But the results now are 16-0. I am not sure if it should be that lopsided.

I am not comparing Auston Matthews to Wayne Gretzky with this poll.

Kaprizov:
2021-22 = 81 GP, 47 G, 61 A, 107 PTS
2022-23 = 10 GP, 8 G, 8 A, 13 PTS

Tkachuk:
2021-22 = 82 GP, 42 G, 62 A, 104 PTS
2022-23 = 10 GP, 5 G, 8 A, 13 PTS

See, it shouldn't be considered a total massacre.

Tkachuk also brings physical elements that Kaprizov doesn't.

Again, I would choose Kaprizov. But 16-0 seems a bit too lopsided.

Now compare how they perform in the playoffs.
 

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I understand people thinking Kaprizov is better. I would choose him too.

But the results now are 16-0. I am not sure if it should be that lopsided.

I am not comparing Auston Matthews to Wayne Gretzky with this poll.

Kaprizov:
2021-22 = 81 GP, 47 G, 61 A, 107 PTS
2022-23 = 10 GP, 8 G, 8 A, 13 PTS

Tkachuk:
2021-22 = 82 GP, 42 G, 62 A, 104 PTS
2022-23 = 10 GP, 5 G, 8 A, 13 PTS

See, it shouldn't be considered a total massacre.

Tkachuk also brings physical elements that Kaprizov doesn't.

Again, I would choose Kaprizov. But 16-0 seems a bit too lopsided.
Look at their linemates, also go back a year further
 
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Do you think the difference is as big of a difference as Gretzky vs. Matthews?

As for the poster who said Kaprizov is the best winger on the planet?

I think the difference between Nikita Kucherov and Kirill Kaprizov is bigger than the difference between Kirill Kaprizov and Matthew Tkachuk.


What has Kaprizov done to be ranked ahead of Kucherov?
That's nonsense.
 
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ESH

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A poll being this one-sided doesn’t mean they aren’t close, but I think it’s pretty clear that Kaprizov is the better player.
 
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ThatGuy22

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Do you think the difference is as big of a difference as Gretzky vs. Matthews?

As for the poster who said Kaprizov is the best winger on the planet?

I think the difference between Nikita Kucherov and Kirill Kaprizov is bigger than the difference between Kirill Kaprizov and Matthew Tkachuk.

What has Kaprizov done to be ranked ahead of Kucherov?

Kaprizov turned a career 4th liner into a 60 point Center, and a 34 year old Zuccerello who's previous career high was 61 points (81 games) into a PPG+ player (79 points in 70 games, 92 point pace).

The number of players that can lift their linemates like that is very small.
 
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biturbo19

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Kaprizov turned a career 4th liner into a 60 point Center, and a 34 year old Zuccerello who's previous career high was 61 points (81 games) into a PPG+ player (79 points in 70 games, 92 point pace).

The number of players that can lift their linemates like that is very small.

The number of Wingers who can elevate linemates like that is even smaller too.

It's like: Kaprizov, Kane, Panarin, maybe Gaudreau, Tarasenko. That's pretty much it, as a handful of the other guys have dropped off and can no longer pull guys up with them to that same extent.
 
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