Matt Stienburg will have a hearing for the charging Hit against Erik Cernak - suspended 2 games

[Romang67]

I didn't know the Avs are that injured that a guy like this is playing for them. His stats look like he's closer to an ECHL player than an NHL player.

An Avs fan posted their lineup in the main board GDT yesterday. Their third line consisted of a 25 year old rookie, a 25 year old who has cracked 0.5 points per game in the AHL once (and not by much), and a D-man. They are very injured.

 

[Spilot23]

horrible hit.

hopefully the avs have another forward they can call up lol

After that terrible experience playing Kylington as a forward I wouldn't be surprised if Bednar goes with Georgiev as a forward

 

[tucker3434]

Leaving your feet on the follow through can be bad too, but its subjective....if you are launching yourself upwards, into a guy and your skates happen to still be touching the ice at point of contact, that doesn't mean it's ok. So if a guy has both skates in the air on a hit I normally start to question it, but then look at it more before judging. The opposite is true as well though....just because a players keeps both skates on the ice at all times doesn't necessarily mean the hit is clean.

It can be. But when you're hitting a guy, most of the power is coming from your legs, and if you catch a guy with his head down who is totally oblivious you might end up in the air even if you've done everything 100% by the book. You're expecting more resistance than you end up getting. You go right though him. I just don't really like using it as the measuring stick unless the guy is off his feet before he even makes contact. That's obviously off limits.

 

[Toby91ca]

Stienburg did make a lot of contract with Cernak's head on the hit, plus drove his head into the glass. That head contact probably doesn't happen if Stienburg hadn't jumped into the hit.

Yeah, agreed, though I didn't analyze it too deeply. That's what the refs felt as well....otherwise they wouldn't have given him 5 min. I was simply stating that the jumping, on it's own, doesn't = suspension.

It can be. But when you're hitting a guy, most of the power is coming from your legs, and if you catch a guy with his head down who is totally oblivious you might end up in the air even if you've done everything 100% by the book. You're expecting more resistance than you end up getting. You go right though him. I just don't really like using it as the measuring stick unless the guy is off his feet before he even makes contact. That's obviously off limits.

Right....that's why I mentioned when I see it, makes me look at it more as it's an indicator it might not be clean....so you then have to look how it unfolded. This is impossible to do in real time of course (for a ref).

 

[OurlordAndSaviorKuch]

An Avs fan posted their lineup in the main board GDT yesterday. Their third line consisted of a 25 year old rookie, a 25 year old who has cracked 0.5 points per game in the AHL once (and not by much), and a D-man. They are very injured.

They get injured so they try and injure two of our Dmen in the same sequence? lmao

Mac also got boarded but it wasn't worth the 5 and they can't retroactively go back and give a two.

No one likes losing, but yeah agreed, that doesn’t mean you should be charging guys,

But I’m confident he would not have thrown that hit if Avs were winning games

Thoughts ?

I doubt if they are winning and not down 3-1 or 4-1 in the fane I can't remember which it was, He would have been so reckless. I don't know if this kid is dirty the hit was dirty and blatantly so, So I chalk this one up to being young and stupid and taking out some frustration.

 

[Romang67]

They get injured so they try and injure two of our Dmen in the same sequence? lmao

Mac also got boarded but it wasn't worth the 5 and they can't retroactively go back and give a two.

I doubt it was a nefarious plan to injure their 2022 Stanley Cup opponents, as much as it was bad players playing bad hockey.

 

[OurlordAndSaviorKuch]

I doubt it was a nefarious plan to injure their 2022 Stanley Cup opponents, as much as it was bad players playing bad hockey.

That was a bit of tongue in cheek I didn't mean it seriously.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

A hit Bennett makes often in the playoffs. Consistency.

 

[Romang67]

After that terrible experience playing Kylington as a forward I wouldn't be surprised if Bednar goes with Georgiev as a forward

I'd argue he'd probably be less of a negative for the team there than in net.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

What happened to the NHL. People use to celebrate Kronwall for this.

Definitely deserve a suspension on top of the game misconduct

 

[zizbuka]

He left his feet so not much an issue with the 5 min but I wouldn’t suspend

Exactly. How's he supposed to reach the head if he can't jump?

 

[dirtydanglez]

yea thats an easy review. you dont need multiple angle or a slow mo. the kid clearly left his feet. thats worth a game or two.

 

[Sticktape]

IT'S PRISHCHEPOV TIME

 

[Bender Duster]

Today I learned that there was a guy named Matt Stienburg in the league.

Today I also learned that he throws dirtbag hits.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

First angle didn’t look so bad because you can’t really see his feet. Second angle, yeah that’s a paddlin. Whether it’s an egregiously targeted shot or not, you can’t just leap into a guy.

Exactly.

1st angle: oh that's not as bad as I expected
Reverse angle: oh shit what was he thinking?!

 

[Toby91ca]

Mac also got boarded but it wasn't worth the 5 and they can't retroactively go back and give a two.

What do you mean here....this is something I missed in the game, perhaps it is when I came back and they had done the review. But what do you mean they can't retroactively go back and give a two? They absolutely can. In fact, I've seen where some borderline stuff might be called a major so the ref can review the video. After reviewing the video they have 3 options: 1) keep original call of 5 min, 2) reduce to 2 min or 3) rescind the penalty call.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Straight up jumps into him lol

 

[Shocker]

Yeah, saw this live, was a funny case of refs reviewing 2 majors on the same break, this was one was bad, no matter how "good" the rest of the hit is, you can't just jump to hits like this, clear suspension to me, 1-2 games.

 

[MMC]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852103645623402621

 

[OurlordAndSaviorKuch]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852103645623402621

Beat me to it

 

[landstuhltaylor]

No one likes losing, but yeah agreed, that doesn’t mean you should be charging guys,

But I’m confident he would not have thrown that hit if Avs were winning games

Thoughts ?

He wouldn't even be on the roster if they were winning games.

 

[The Macho King]

What do you mean here....this is something I missed in the game, perhaps it is when I came back and they had done the review. But what do you mean they can't retroactively go back and give a two? They absolutely can. In fact, I've seen where some borderline stuff might be called a major so the ref can review the video. After reviewing the video they have 3 options: 1) keep original call of 5 min, 2) reduce to 2 min or 3) rescind the penalty call.

The Linesman made the initial call and they can't call minors i guess?

 

[OurlordAndSaviorKuch]

What do you mean here....this is something I missed in the game, perhaps it is when I came back and they had done the review. But what do you mean they can't retroactively go back and give a two? They absolutely can. In fact, I've seen where some borderline stuff might be called a major so the ref can review the video. After reviewing the video they have 3 options: 1) keep original call of 5 min, 2) reduce to 2 min or 3) rescind the penalty call.

There were two separate Major reviews.....

One for the Charging hit on Cernak

And one for a Boarding hit on Mac,

They never called a penalty on the second one and from how it was explained they can't retroactively give a 2-minute minor when there wasn't one initially called.

 

[bleedgreen]

If he didn’t jump the hit would’ve been fine. It was from the side and didn’t target the head. Overzealous. I don’t think there’s any intent but leaving your feet is obviously a no no. I thought the penalty and misconduct was enough, two games seems pretty tight for what it was. Let’s see them hold that line all season with bigger names if they’re going to call this one like this.

 

[OurlordAndSaviorKuch]

If he didn’t jump the hit would’ve been fine. It was from the side and didn’t target the head. Overzealous. I don’t think there’s any intent but leaving your feet is obviously a no no. I thought the penalty and misconduct was enough, two games seems pretty tight for what it was. Let’s see them hold that line all season with bigger names if they’re going to call this one like this.

Target wasn't the head? What?

He leaped off of his feet and literally made the head the initial point of contact.