Value of: Mason McTavish? For reals?
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WhatTheDuck
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Not sure where you were going with the inclusion of the Dmen but Jokiharju is the last thing the Ducks need
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WhatTheDuck
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Very doubtful Anaheim is trying to get out of Gudas contract (or create cap space for next year), they just named him captain. Jokiharju isn't a fit, the Ducks have so many puck movers they can't get them all in the lineup right now. They acquired Trouba to replace Fowler in order to balance that out. If they move a D, it's because they have 8 NHL D + Luneau and don't need one in return.
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Not saying they want to get out of the Gudas contract, I think he adds value to the Sabres in this trade.
Figured being a UFA that Jokiharju would be moved, demoted, placed on waivers.
Funny cause just a few weeks ago there was an article on Ducks trying to get McT to play more like BT7. More more aggressive, use his body more, drive the net…I’m assuming.
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the problem is he hasn't shown he's a solid young piece. now that could just be because the coach is an absolute moron who's dragging down the entire team with his terrible system or mctavish just isn't the guy we think he is.Seems genuinely insane for the Ducks to trade one of the few solid young pieces they've started putting in place. Unless the idea is to just be...really bad...forever. But who knows...
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In a vacuum that might be fair, but Cozens has that insane long-term contract that detracts from his value, I would think.
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Verbeek sucks, so it wouldn't surprise me to see him trade players instead of firing the horrible coaches he's employedSo I'm taking a break and reading ESPN on the NHL (yes, yes, I know), specifically this article:
And in their list of "elite pending free agents" they're sugesting as up for trade, they include... Mason McTavish?
NHL trade tiers Big Board: Kreider, Rossi, Provorov among players generating buzz
While the trade deadline isn't until March 7, significant trades have already happened. Here are 68 players who could join a new team.www.espn.com
I dunno if I'm looking at wild-ass speculation or if there's actually legitimately something there. In any case, what would the Ducks be looking for? (I imagine it'd be a heck of a lot since it seems more than a little early to give up on him, but if there's Something Else going on...)
Mctavish HAS shown he can be a core piece but under Cronin he has not gone in the right direction. As have a number of guys
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I mean, he's certainly got his flaws...but i'd say he's also shown enough promising signs that he's one of the young pieces that a team can start to rebuild around. And he's still super young. Like 21/22 is still very much within the scope of "developing player" who could reasonably be expected to continue to get better. He doesn't have a lot of really apparent physical limitations or anything. And he's shown plenty of flashes of becoming a potentially very good 2C.
To me, that's exactly the sort of piece that a rebuilding team like the Ducks ought to be patient with.
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Disagree.
Yeah, but BUF could always throw in a Dahlin or two to sweeten the deal.
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The Ducks are more concerned about staying above the cap floor than with unloading contracts. If Fowler, Dumoulin, and possibly Gibson are gone this year, then also removing Gudas' deal from the equation leaves the Ducks in need of heavy spending just to keep up with the floor. Tough position to negotiate from.
Well, he's had stretches where he's looked fantastic, like early last season when it appeared he was on the verge of stardom. But like a lot of young guys, it's only in little stretches. Still, at least there have been those flashes of top 6 play, so we know the talent is legitimately there, as opposed to those guys where you watch them never do much of anything and think, "why was he drafted high again?"
I suspect they'll stick with him, but if a shot at a star player comes up he's the one they'd part with.
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Too many young players are stagnating offensively. They need to look at a coaching change before trading these guys.
During Cronin’s time in Loveland, it was a theme on the Avs board that forwards go there to die. The counter to that was always that the Avs are bad at drafting outside of the top 10, so Cronin would get a pass.
During Cronin’s time in Loveland, it was a theme on the Avs board that forwards go there to die. The counter to that was always that the Avs are bad at drafting outside of the top 10, so Cronin would get a pass.
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WhatTheDuck
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Cronin is definitely giving the impression that he's coaching the creativity out of the young players, gaining a rep for being a hard ass with them, yet doesn't seem to hold his veterans to much of a standard. Needless to say it's not a great combo, seems like Verbeek was trying to be the smart guy in the room with this hire and it was a miss. Should bring in an established good NHL head coach before doing anything drastic with the youth. Sort have my doubts he'll eat crow that quickly...
