Value of: Mason McTavish? For reals?

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McTavish + lower tiered C prospect for Tippett + Risto?

Big RH forward, big RH D (who has played very well this year - even spot duty on top pair). Both signed. Anaheim has cap space but I'm sure Flyers can retain (on Risto) or take back a dump if it's helpful.
I don’t think we need a rhd…. Idk why duck fans are saying that

We have gudas + trouba, lacombe and zellweger both can and do play right side…. And tristan luneau prob needs nhl time next year. Helleson has also looked great
what about something around Conor Murphy RHD 50% retained, Lucas Reichel ,and Toronto's 2025 1st?
Prob don’t need a RHD with the addition of trouba(see above)

Idk what I’d want from Chicago tbh…. Reichel + 1st is okay but not really worth giving up mctavish
 

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McT + Zegras + ANA 2026 + 2027 2nds + Helleson
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LaF + KAM + Lindgren

something like that?
Ehh I don’t see that being good.

No need for kam or lindgren

Helleson has been kinda a beast at the nhl lvl for us.

I’d like to add laf or kakko…. But wouldn’t give up both zegras and mctavish
 
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I don’t think we need a rhd…. Idk why duck fans are saying that

We have gudas + trouba, lacombe and zellweger both can and do play right side…. And tristan luneau prob needs nhl time next year.


Prob don’t need a RHD with the addition of trouba(see above)

Idk what I’d want from Chicago tbh…. Reichel + 1st is okay but not really worth giving up mctavish
If you don't need RHD then, Flyers have an abundance of RW.

NHL: TK (not available), Michkov (not available), Tippett (possibly for the right price, this might be it), Foerster, Brink
Prospects: Tuomaala is doing well in the AHL, almost NHL ready (PPG in AHL).

The Flyers will need to move some W depth for C depth in this type of deal. I think their preference would be to move one of Tuomaala or Brink, first though.
 

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If you don't need RHD then, Flyers have an abundance of RW.

NHL: TK (not available), Michkov (not available), Tippett (possibly for the right price, this might be it), Foerster, Brink
Prospects: Tuomaala is doing well in the AHL, almost NHL ready (PPG in AHL).

The Flyers will need to move some W depth for C depth in this type of deal. I think their preference would be to move one of Tuomaala or Brink, first though.
i feel a mctavish trade will be us adding pieces and aiming at a bigger piece…. Who that is idk. Doesn’t make sense to move him for lateral pieces.

He’s a 21 year old center with top 6(top line) potential…. On a team with a bad coach/roster…. Would be risky moving him for non obvious upgrades(even if we have to add)
 

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If the Sens decide to deal Tkachuk prior to July 1st I would be happy with a deal based around McTavish+

Maybe something like McTavish + Zegras + something for Tkachuk + Norris to equalize positions in vs. out
 
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If the Sens decide to deal Tkachuk prior to July 1st I would be happy with a deal based around McTavish+

Maybe something like McTavish + Zegras + something for Tkachuk + Norris to equalize positions in vs. out
Tkachuk is who I'd package McTavish for, but we need to hold on to one of Zegras or McTavish to be our 2c behind leo(I'd prefer z). Not sure what else to package though, because to trade for tkachuk would have to hurt from a ducks pov I feel, so I think that value is close but would like to hang on to one of them.


Edit: wanted to add that by "wanting to hang on to one of them" is why I wouldn't know what else would take the place that has the value of z to the sens.
 
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Tkachuk is who I'd package McTavish for, but we need to hold on to one of Zegras or McTavish to be our 2c behind leo(I'd prefer z). Not sure what else to package though, because to trade for tkachuk would have to hurt from a ducks pov I feel, so I think that value is close but would like to hang on to one of them.


Edit: wanted to add that by "wanting to hang on to one of them" is why I wouldn't know what else would take the place that has the value of z to the sens.

That's why I included Norris, who's a center and a good buddy of Tkachuk, having played together for many years at several different levels together.
 
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If the Sens decide to deal Tkachuk prior to July 1st I would be happy with a deal based around McTavish+

Maybe something like McTavish + Zegras + something for Tkachuk + Norris to equalize positions in vs. out
Ya i could def see Anaheim big on tkachuk…. I’d prefer to hold onto zegras(and take Norris out) and make the trade around mctavish+….

But open to debate on it…. The idea for me is to get Brady to play with zegras.

Tkachuk zegras sennecke
Gauthier carlsson terry

As our top 6
 

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McTavish + lower tiered C prospect for Tippett + Risto?

Big RH forward, big RH D (who has played very well this year - even spot duty on top pair). Both signed. Anaheim has cap space but I'm sure Flyers can retain (on Risto) or take back a dump if it's helpful.

I'd offer a deal around Bonk but the previous post said they'd prefer a vet in that role? Hence Risto. Anyway, not sure. I suck at these.

I just think Flyers and Ducks are really good partners. Flyers have a lot of right shooting wingers, and a few right handed D men who are playing well of the defensive variety (Bonk, Risto, Grans) and need Cs. Ducks opposite - they have lot of Cs and need other positions. There's a deal to be had, for sure.
I think Tippett is exactly what the Ducks need. I do think McTavish’s ceiling is high enough where I would ask for a decent piece on top of him (Bonk could fit that). Still would like to see McTavish under a different coach first, but Tippett would be an interesting target.
 

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I think Tippett is exactly what the Ducks need. I do think McTavish’s ceiling is high enough where I would ask for a decent piece on top of him (Bonk could fit that). Still would like to see McTavish under a different coach first, but Tippett would be an interesting target.
I think the Flyers can add, but it wouldn't be Bonk. Maybe Grans. This only based on the perceived higher upside of McTavish, but Tippett is already a young-ish top 6 forward, signed long term. Grans has played really well this year, and has 2nd pairing upside as RH defensive dman. Good size, skater.

I'd think about a deal around Tippett + Grans for McTavish with a small add. If Bonk is included, we'd need an equivalent level center prospect back as I think Tippett's value is pretty close to McTavish - he's a bit more proven, but little less upside.
 
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Ducks biggest needs are a defensive RHD who can play on the top pair (likely) with Mintyukov in the future and RHS goal scoring forwards, preferably that can win faceoffs. The RHS may not be as big of an issue with Sennecke, Terry, and Colangelo at various points in the system. So unless it's McTavish (probably with an add) for a better player that fits a bigger need, it probably isn't worth moving him.
Nemec for McTavish would interest NJ.
Maybe the deal could be expanded to include Vatrano and Lundestrom for Mercer.
 
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Nemec for McTavish would interest NJ
I just dont think it makes a ton of sense for Anaheim personally.

RHD: Trouba, Gudas, Luneau, Helleson, Warren (and potentially moore if he signs here)
zellweger/Lacombe who play both sides.

If were moving McTavish its to upgrade our offense.
I think the Flyers can add, but it wouldn't be Bonk. Maybe Grans. This only based on the perceived higher upside of McTavish, but Tippett is already a young-ish top 6 forward, signed long term. Grans has played really well this year, and has 2nd pairing upside as RH defensive dman. Good size, skater.

I'd think about a deal around Tippett + Grans for McTavish with a small add. If Bonk is included, we'd need an equivalent level center prospect back as I think Tippett's value is pretty close to McTavish - he's a bit more proven, but little less upside.
I dont think tippet is a name id be interested in with mctavish on the table.

I like Tippett, and think hed be a great add to anaheim.... but personally if im moving mctavish , im adding to him and getting someone with a significant add to the roster. I dont think Grans does enough to change that either, we have enough guys coming up that defense isnt a big worry.

Top 6 centers with upside are a premium.... and in 2-3 years i think mctavish will have similar goal production to tippett, at a harder posistion to fill while have more overall production. Hes playing on a poor anaheim roster, with a poor system/coach. Its very risky moving him for anything less than obvious upgrades.
 

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Any interest in McAvoy? What would you add to McTavish?
Honestly, its a terrible fit with the current roster construction and Luneau waiting in the wings. Also leaves a pretty big hole in the future top 6.

But I would do it. The chance to get a legit top pairing RHD for the next 6 years is worth it to me.
 

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Ehh I don’t see that being good.

No need for kam or lindgren

Helleson has been kinda a beast at the nhl lvl for us.

I’d like to add laf or kakko…. But wouldn’t give up both zegras and mctavish
Lindy obv expiring cap dump
happy Helly working out for you
have had my eye on him for a while
would have to think on this some more but I am crushed atm
 

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Seems genuinely insane for the Ducks to trade one of the few solid young pieces they've started putting in place. Unless the idea is to just be...really bad...forever. But who knows... :dunno:
 

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Prefacing this by saying that Anaheim would be unwise to trade McTavish at his lowest value, boy this dude is having a rough season. Can't win a faceoff, poor defensively, and doing just about nothing offensively at even strength. Only scoring 1.26 points per 60 minutes at 5v5... and of that 1.26, 0.84 are secondary assists.
 

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Prefacing this by saying that Anaheim would be unwise to trade McTavish at his lowest value, boy this dude is having a rough season. Can't win a faceoff, poor defensively, and doing just about nothing offensively at even strength. Only scoring 1.26 points per 60 minutes at 5v5... and of that 1.26, 0.84 are secondary assists.

Only way it makes sense is if its an obvious upgrade. Or change of scenery type deal

id prob strongly consider a base deal around

Cozens and mctavish
 

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