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Prospect Info: Marlies/Prospects Thread - 2023-23 Season Edition

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ULF_55 said:
Actually, I'd be surprised if he isn't in Toronto for training camp in 2024.
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We'll see. These kind of KHL prospects tend to stay and cook in the KHL until they are 22-23 years old. Just like Ovchinnikov who is pushing 3 years since drafted, but he did play for the Marlies a bit and is signed to an ELC.
 
SprDaVE said:
We'll see. These kind of KHL prospects tend to stay and cook in the KHL until they are 22-23 years old. Just like Ovchinnikov who is pushing 3 years since drafted, but he did play for the Marlies a bit and is signed to an ELC.
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Things might not be so pleasant in the KHL in a couple of years, so as a young man getting to the AHL might be much more appealing.
 
SprDaVE said:
We'll see. These kind of KHL prospects tend to stay and cook in the KHL until they are 22-23 years old. Just like Ovchinnikov who is pushing 3 years since drafted, but he did play for the Marlies a bit and is signed to an ELC.
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I think we probably know more of a timeline after next season when his current contract is up. A lot of Russian players don't have much interest in coming over to play in the AHL.
 
SprDaVE said:
We'll see. These kind of KHL prospects tend to stay and cook in the KHL until they are 22-23 years old. Just like Ovchinnikov who is pushing 3 years since drafted, but he did play for the Marlies a bit and is signed to an ELC.
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At this point you need to look at the most recent U20 comparables if he keeps this up. We're talking Chinakhov, Marchenko, and Kravtsov as the closest. We can't really look at Kravtsov because the NYR are a joke of an organization that ruins prospects. Right now Greb's PPG in his age 19 season is .58 or 0.49 if you count the 7 games where he averaged just over 2 mins with his old team.

Chinakhov (0.53 as a 19 year old) came over in his age 20 season and played 62 games in the NHL.

Marchenko (.52) came over his age 22 season and has played 28 games so far.

If and I mean IF he keeps this up, I'd be shocked if the Leafs weren't bringing him here the moment his contract ended after next year. A few Marlies games like Ovchinnikov to end the 2023-24 season and have him fight for a roster spot at the beginning of 2024-25.
 
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Morgs said:
At this point you need to look at the most recent U20 comparables if he keeps this up. We're talking Chinakhov, Marchenko, and Kravtsov as the closest. We can't really look at Kravtsov because the NYR are a joke of an organization that ruins prospects. Right now Greb's PPG in his age 19 season is .58 or 0.49 if you count the 7 games where he averaged just over 2 mins with his old team.

Chinakhov (0.53 as a 19 year old) came over in his age 20 season and played 62 games in the NHL.

Marchenko (.52) came over his age 22 season and has played 28 games so far.

If and I mean IF he keeps this up, I'd be shocked if the Leafs weren't bringing him here the moment his contract ended after next year. A few Marlies games like Ovchinnikov to end the 2023-24 season and have him fight for a roster spot at the beginning of 2024-25.
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I think a lot will come down to how Magnetigorsk treats him next year. If he's re-loaned to Amur or buried again it will be a race to bring him over. If they keep him and give him good playing time I don't think a 1-2 year extension would be seen as a bad thing
 
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4thline said:
I think a lot will come down to how Magnetigorsk treats him next year. If he's re-loaned to Amur or buried again it will be a race to bring him over. If they keep him and give him good playing time I don't think a 1-2 year extension would be seen as a bad thing
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Yeah it wouldn't be a bad thing, especially with Magnetogorsk or another top-tier team if he was promised significant minutes. I'm just always a bit more skeptical about NHL prospects playing in the KHL unless they're Amirov-talents or better.
 
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Well this is a bit of a shocker. I know Sens have struggled but Mann being let go I didn't expect. Mann is one of the better coaches in the AHL too IMO. They have had many injuries this season.
A lot of Sens twitter don't like it either
 
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Doesn't seem to be slowing down anytime soon.
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This kid is slowly turning into one of my favorite Leaf prospects. I love these later round finds. Voit, Grebyonkin, Lisowsky, Tverberg, Holmberg....just to name a few. All of them drafted in the 5th round or beyond and they've all tracked so well.

I'll be honest with you, I had zero expectations on Nikita when we drafted him. Never heard of him TBH. I vaguely rememeber there being a bit of disappointment around the selection when it was made around these circles, so I just kind of trusted that narrative as this section of our board is where I come to learn about our guys. Not to throw shade at anyone in particular who may have been disappointed, I think it was more of an opinion developed on previously poor Russian drafting /development. Add in the fact that he was 19 years old at the time he was selected and it makes even more sense.

But he's really come out of nowhere eh??

his production in the second best league in the world as a 19 year old is no joke. We may have something here.
 
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Twine Tickler said:
This kid is slowly turning into one of my favorite Leaf prospects. I love these later round finds. Voit, Grebyonkin, Lisowsky, Tverberg, Holmberg....just to name a few. All of them drafted in the 5th round or beyond and they've all tracked so well.

I'll be honest with you, I had zero expectations on Nikita when we drafted him. Never heard of him TBH. I vaguely rememeber there being a bit of disappointment around the selection when it was made around these circles, so I just kind of trusted that narrative as this section of our board is where I come to learn about our guys. Not to throw shade at anyone in particular who may have been disappointed, I think it was more of an opinion developed on previously poor Russian drafting /development. Add in the fact that he was 19 years old at the time he was selected and it makes even more sense.

But he's really come out of nowhere eh??

his production in the second best league in the world as a 19 year old is no joke. We may have something here.
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I mean drafting a 19 year old, with mediocre results, is often going to get panned. Whoever saw something in him... I mean big congrats, at least so far. He's been a pleasant surprise, and we should all hope he continues to grow his game like this.
 
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I mean drafting a 19 year old, with mediocre results, is often going to get panned. Whoever saw something in him... I mean big congrats, at least so far. He's been a pleasant surprise, and we should all hope he continues to grow his game like this.
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Oh for sure. I am not sure anyone could have saw this coming. Huge surprise.
 
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All of the replays I see of his goals and assists are very solid. I know there is some bias in what gets posted, but I am really looking forward to his development.
 
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