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LeafsFan89 said:
It is annoying that Keefe never calls out Marner or Matthews when Nylander has been the most consistent player all year.
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Nylander and him goes to the AHL days and not every player responds to coaching the same. Nylander tends to respond well to him when he does do that tbh.

ACC1224 said:
Who has the net?
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I believe samsonov



Yep samsonov start
 
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Jamason said:
Over the same three playoffs, with more ice time, JT had exactly the same number of assists. Half of his were on the PP, while all of Engvall's were at ES.
Focusing on a single stat can be misleading
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It can also be quite misleading when you state two very leading sample descriptors while conveniently leaving out the GP difference, and also state two game state descriptors suggesting that one's points are more valuable or difficult to acquire while conveniently leaving out that half of them were into an empty net.
 
Budz said:
Except for the fact he often starts post game threads. If you block him you will miss threads.

I am able to ignore him just fine.

Just pointing out it’s against the rules. Mods ignore it. Why???

I won’t say anything more on it - but bet a Mod won’t post an explanation.
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Not trying to be argumentative, but what rule is being broken?
 
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Leaf Rocket said:
Nylander and him goes to the AHL days and not every player responds to coaching the same. Nylander tends to respond well to him when he does do that tbh.


I believe samsonov



Yep samsonov start
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Yep, the only thang that would pull mr.sammy put of this projected start tonight is the fact that his baby might push out at any moment now. So, like many hfboards leafs fans dads and momettes know, any thang can launch that thang at any moment. Hard.

Only that way, our murray will get the nod and go for a lolo tonight
 
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This is going to be interesting, Engvall has been playing on a line with Palmieri and Nelson which right now would probably be NYI's #1 or #2 line, that never happened in TO?

How many people know that Engvall's scoring percentage has pretty consistently hovered around 11%, that kind of success should've been rewarded by lineup promotion, I'd say.

With TO's draft results, trading Engvall for a 3rd rounder is the same as giving him away or letting him walk.

Chandler Stephenson with Vegas might be a similar type of story, he was a Capital for about 4 1/2 years and in his best year he got to play 12 minutes per game, a 3rd/4th line tweener then he gets traded to Vegas and immediately starts producing 22 pts in 41 games with about 16 minutes of icetime, his next year with Vegas 51 g 35 pts, last year 79 g 64 pts, this year 70 g 54 pts. These stats came from a player that in his best year with Washington managed 18 pts. I can't say for sure but I suspect Washington coaches didn't like Stephenson, another example might be Bunting who spent 6 years in the Arizona system but was never really given a proper NHL chance except his last Arizona year where he got to play 21 games and scored 10 g and 3 a. 10 goals in 21 games and Arizona still wouldn't risk less than 1 mil. on Bunting.

I would say that Bunting as a 3rd liner probably isn't much of an impact player or very productive but his skillset tied in with better players has made him into an asset. TO's latest Bunting/Stephenson, Mason Marchment.

Players fall between cracks in every organization, sometimes it pays to have someone different evaluating your team's assets. Being willing to experiment with players probably would mean that, that players' potential has the greatest chance of being recognized/utilized. I've noticed that Keefe is willing to experiment with known assets like having Jarnkrok on TO's top 2 lines but he was never willing to move Engvall up, ever.

In all of Engvall's years with TO he was never allowed to play in TO's top 6, same with Anderson and many others, players have been moved up from the Marlies where they played on the top 2 lines and were productive but once they actually play for TO they become 4th liners and it's really hard to soar with eagles when paired with turkeys. I can remember when Babs was determined to discipline Marner and Nylander, he had them play on TO's 4th lines, neither looked good there.
 
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hobarth said:
This is going to be interesting, Engvall has been playing on a line with Palmieri and Nelson which right now would probably be NYI's #1 or #2 line, that never happened in TO?

How many people know that Engvall's scoring percentage has pretty consistently hovered around 11%, that kind of success should've been rewarded by lineup promotion, I'd say.

With TO's draft results, trading Engvall for a 3rd rounder is the same as giving him away or letting him walk.

Chandler Stephenson with Vegas might be a similar type of story, he was a Capital for about 4 1/2 years and in his best year he got to play 12 minutes per game, a 3rd/4th line tweener then he gets traded to Vegas and immediately starts producing 22 pts in 41 games with about 16 minutes of icetime, his next year with Vegas 51 g 35 pts, last year 79 g 64 pts, this year 70 g 54 pts. These stats came from a player that in his best year with Washington managed 18 pts. I can't say for sure but I suspect Washington coaches didn't like Stephenson, another example might be Bunting who spent 6 years in the Arizona system but was never really given a proper NHL chance except his last Arizona year where he got to play 21 games and scored 10 g and 3 a. 10 goals in 21 games and Arizona still wouldn't risk less than 1 mil. on Bunting.

I would say that Bunting as a 3rd liner probably isn't much of an impact player or very productive but his skillset tied in with better players has made him into an asset. TO's latest Bunting/Stephenson, Mason Marchment.

Players fall between cracks in every organization, sometimes it pays to have someone different evaluating your team's assets. Being willing to experiment with players probably would mean that, that players' potential has the greatest chance of being recognized/utilized. I've noticed that Keefe is willing to experiment with known assets like having Jarnkrok on TO's top 2 lines but he was never willing to move Engvall up, ever.

In all of Engvall's years with TO he was never allowed to play in TO's top 6, same with Anderson and many others, players have been moved up from the Marlies where they played on the top 2 lines and were productive but once they actually play for TO they become 4th liners and it's really hard to soar with eagles when paired with turkeys. I can remember when Babs was determined to discipline Marner and Nylander, he had them play on TO's 4th lines, neither looked good there.
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Under Dubas we've been drafting well and we have a ton of picks trending nicely so this is utter nonsense.
 
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Dekes For Days said:
It can also be quite misleading when you state two very leading sample descriptors while conveniently leaving out the GP difference, and also state two game state descriptors suggesting that one's points are more valuable or difficult to acquire while conveniently leaving out that half of them were into an empty net.
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Which is more relevant: number of games played, or ice time? :laugh:
 
I believe we dodge Sorokin tonight. That guy can make life miserable for shooters.


Edit: maybe not. :(
 
Meh, Nylander has been unimpressive in the dzone the last few games. I think this tactic worked last time? Might try it again. We know he can go into beast mode and has been great for the most part this year.
 
I hope the lineup tinkering comes to an end soon, especially on the blueline.

In my opinion, the players need at least several games with set linemates/defense partners to develop chemistry going into the playoffs.
 
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hobarth said:
This is going to be interesting, Engvall has been playing on a line with Palmieri and Nelson which right now would probably be NYI's #1 or #2 line, that never happened in TO?

How many people know that Engvall's scoring percentage has pretty consistently hovered around 11%, that kind of success should've been rewarded by lineup promotion, I'd say.

With TO's draft results, trading Engvall for a 3rd rounder is the same as giving him away or letting him walk.

Chandler Stephenson with Vegas might be a similar type of story, he was a Capital for about 4 1/2 years and in his best year he got to play 12 minutes per game, a 3rd/4th line tweener then he gets traded to Vegas and immediately starts producing 22 pts in 41 games with about 16 minutes of icetime, his next year with Vegas 51 g 35 pts, last year 79 g 64 pts, this year 70 g 54 pts. These stats came from a player that in his best year with Washington managed 18 pts. I can't say for sure but I suspect Washington coaches didn't like Stephenson, another example might be Bunting who spent 6 years in the Arizona system but was never really given a proper NHL chance except his last Arizona year where he got to play 21 games and scored 10 g and 3 a. 10 goals in 21 games and Arizona still wouldn't risk less than 1 mil. on Bunting.

I would say that Bunting as a 3rd liner probably isn't much of an impact player or very productive but his skillset tied in with better players has made him into an asset. TO's latest Bunting/Stephenson, Mason Marchment.

Players fall between cracks in every organization, sometimes it pays to have someone different evaluating your team's assets. Being willing to experiment with players probably would mean that, that players' potential has the greatest chance of being recognized/utilized. I've noticed that Keefe is willing to experiment with known assets like having Jarnkrok on TO's top 2 lines but he was never willing to move Engvall up, ever.

In all of Engvall's years with TO he was never allowed to play in TO's top 6, same with Anderson and many others, players have been moved up from the Marlies where they played on the top 2 lines and were productive but once they actually play for TO they become 4th liners and it's really hard to soar with eagles when paired with turkeys. I can remember when Babs was determined to discipline Marner and Nylander, he had them play on TO's 4th lines, neither looked good there.
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This post took more effort than Engvall exerts in a game.
 
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NorthernFlicker said:
If we're not playing Schenn against the Isles, why do we even have him?
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Don't get it either. We're at the tail end of the season heading into the playoffs and this coaching staff is still f***ing around with pairings. Give these guys some consistency. A slow physical team like the islanders is exactly where Schenn would shine.
 
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