Confirmed with Link: Mann, Bowness (not that one) hired as AGM

[SensBrawler]

Looking at the Mann/Dorion era. So 2017 on. I found this interesting:

This is just weird lol.

It's only been five years since Mann took over. It's not exactly surprising that only two players outside the top five have played over 70 NHL games. Most players that age are still developing. Let's take a look at the drafts.

2017 - We only had four picks and didn't have a pick until 28, yet we still walked away with Formenton and Batherson. Not sure why they don't count.
2018 - Not a great draft outside of Brady, but JBD will almost certainly play at least 70 games. Crookshank is a bit of a darkhorse due to his injury.
2019 - 5 of the 6 players have played at least 1 NHL game so far. Pinto would have played over 70 games this season if not for his injury. Thomson and Kastelic will both likely play over 70 games in their careers. Sogaard and Lodin aren't sure things, but they have good potential. Even Guenette has shown promise too.
2020 - Nobody outside of the top 20 has even played over 70 games yet.
2021 - Only one player in the entire draft has even played over 70 NHL games lol.

So...with context that stat isn't really that interesting. 2017 was a good draft for us. 2018 a little less so and everything else is too soon to tell. Excluding Formenton, Batherson and our top five picks is just...dumb and seems like he's trying to manipulate data so that he can make the argument he wants.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Hockey ops expanding.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Hockey ops expanding.

Ya Donovan said today on the radio it was happening, after they selected his son , they had him on.
Tried to get him to spill the beans, he didn’t but dropped a clue or 2 , and laughed.

 

[Matsens15]

Report: Trent Mann Threatened to Resign If Dorion Dealt the Shane Pinto Pick

Imagine a world where Shane Pinto was not a part of the Senators’ future.

gnichols.substack.com

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Report: Trent Mann Threatened to Resign If Dorion Dealt the Shane Pinto Pick

Imagine a world where Shane Pinto was not a part of the Senators’ future.

gnichols.substack.com

This article is from 2021

 

[edguy]

This article is from 2021

It's true but Pinto has done nothing to change this opinion of him. He has been stellar and outplayed expectations.

 

[edguy]

Hockey ops expanding.

If Meth is leaving for hockey ops, I hope Wally keeps up the podcast. The Wally and Ryan show maybe??

 

[GCK]

If Meth is leaving for hockey ops, I hope Wally keeps up the podcast. The Wally and Ryan show maybe??

How about just Bobby, Wallace is an asshat.

 

[Ouroboros]

If Meth is leaving for hockey ops, I hope Wally keeps up the podcast. The Wally and Ryan show maybe??

He's said it isn't him.

I think it might be Dion Phaneuf.

 

[edguy]

He's said it isn't him.

I think it might be Dion Phaneuf.

Wonder if its Chris Phillips coming back to the organization?

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

Looking like Redden.

 

[Alfie11]

He's said it isn't him.

I think it might be Dion Phaneuf.

Some players are great coaches or front office type and some really aren't - but I really like Phaneuf during his time here and he seems like a really solid dude. I'd support giving him a chance for sure.

 

[edguy]

Looking like Redden.

Love Wade Redden coming in. Great hire!

 

[JD1]

This is just weird lol.

It's only been five years since Mann took over. It's not exactly surprising that only two players outside the top five have played over 70 NHL games. Most players that age are still developing. Let's take a look at the drafts.

2017 - We only had four picks and didn't have a pick until 28, yet we still walked away with Formenton and Batherson. Not sure why they don't count.
2018 - Not a great draft outside of Brady, but JBD will almost certainly play at least 70 games. Crookshank is a bit of a darkhorse due to his injury.
2019 - 5 of the 6 players have played at least 1 NHL game so far. Pinto would have played over 70 games this season if not for his injury. Thomson and Kastelic will both likely play over 70 games in their careers. Sogaard and Lodin aren't sure things, but they have good potential. Even Guenette has shown promise too.
2020 - Nobody outside of the top 20 has even played over 70 games yet.
2021 - Only one player in the entire draft has even played over 70 NHL games lol.

So...with context that stat isn't really that interesting. 2017 was a good draft for us. 2018 a little less so and everything else is too soon to tell. Excluding Formenton, Batherson and our top five picks is just...dumb and seems like he's trying to manipulate data so that he can make the argument he wants.

The interesting thing about that stat is it makes it rather obvious why you shouldn't pay attention to Graeme Nichols

 

[Micklebot]

The interesting thing about that stat is it makes it rather obvious why you shouldn't pay attention to Graeme Nichols

I used to follow his articles because he transcribed a lot of Sens related press availability and interviews. Haven't really read his stuff since he changed sites.

 

[Crosside]

How many years Bowness sign for ?

 

[Big Muddy]

The interesting thing about that stat is it makes it rather obvious why you shouldn't pay attention to Graeme Nichols

Or, for that matter, a lot of people on Twitter.