Managerial Thread - 24/25 Season - Lolceister City

[spintheblackcircle]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1823864794543480856

As the guy who led my club to the best seasons since I've been a fan, I cannot help but support this

 

[Live in the Now]

Better than anyone else we've had

 

[Spring in Fialta]

I don't know if he has any international experience but on the surface that's clearly a homerun hire for the US. The team's talent level is going to cap him though. Feels like he'd work best for a side that has a lot of dual nationalities in which his stature could work as a selling point.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Poch is a very, very, very good coach and therefore as someone who wants USMNT to fail I do not like the hire

But club --> NT is never seamless, so it's not a slam dunk

 

[Jack Straw]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1823901564978782338

 

[cgf]

Poch is a very, very, very good coach and therefore as someone who wants USMNT to fail I do not like the hire

But club --> NT is never seamless, so it's not a slam dunk

It can be, but generally it’s the more tactical coaches that suffer from not having enough time to drill their squad. The more NBA style ego-managers can general do well with the switch.

…though “in general” is just that, Nagelsmann is as tactical as it gets and he’s been great.

 

[John Price]

Poch is a very, very, very good coach and therefore as someone who wants USMNT to fail I do not like the hire

But club --> NT is never seamless, so it's not a slam dunk

didn't seem to stop Emma Hayes

 

[Jack Straw]

Clearly being the Chelsea manager is just a stepping stone on the way to bigger and better things.

 

[Jussi]

You're still not going to win, no matter how much you believe.

 

[HajdukSplit]

Kind of surprised he took a national team job in general (would say this even if he took the England job) as he's pretty a locked in candidate for most of the top half of the Premier League. It's just unless he makes a crazy deep run his stock isn't going to improve with the USMNT

 

[HeHateMeFrisbee]

didn't seem to stop Emma Hayes

Never mind a totally different set of circumstances

 

[Jack Straw]

You're still not going to win, no matter how much you believe.

Trust the lemons

Pochettino rues Chelsea yellow cards but puts faith in green lemons

“They started to work after two years at Tottenham,” Pochettino said. “Give time to the lemons. It is a thing that we all believe. If you want to have good energy you need to implement all the things that you believe."

 

[Ceremony]

In theory, the US manager is about the most appealing job in the game. If you're enough of a control freak and/or egomaniac you'd believe that with a decade or two, an unlimited budget and massive potential for growth you could, in theory, make them the best in the world.

Whether or not anyone could actually manage that, who knows. But it'd be fun to try, probably.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Never mind a totally different set of circumstances

Are you trying to argue that results with a top 3-5 talent pool aren t likely to be replicated with one that's more like 20-25? No room for logic in here...USA...USA! Golden generation! It's coming home!

 

[Jussi]

In theory, the US manager is about the most appealing job in the game. If you're enough of a control freak and/or egomaniac you'd believe that with a decade or two, an unlimited budget and massive potential for growth you could, in theory, make them the best in the world.

Whether or not anyone could actually manage that, who knows. But it'd be fun to try, probably.

Yeah, there's no denying the potential the US has. But it requires a long term project.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

What exactly is the potential the US has? Okay, you have access to probably unlimited funds. But the potential to expand your talent pool isn't there. How many dual nationals are in Europe? Doubt there's many.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

What exactly is the potential the US has? Okay, you have access to probably unlimited funds. But the potential to expand your talent pool isn't there. How many dual nationals are in Europe? Doubt there's many.

It’s legitimately the stupidest argument I’ve heard for a decade now. Americans are the best athletes or some other bs. They’ll never be the best footballing nation. Never ever not in our life time.

 

[Ceremony]

What exactly is the potential the US has? Okay, you have access to probably unlimited funds. But the potential to expand your talent pool isn't there. How many dual nationals are in Europe? Doubt there's many.

It’s legitimately the stupidest argument I’ve heard for a decade now. Americans are the best athletes or some other bs. They’ll never be the best footballing nation. Never ever not in our life time.

The "what if ~random basketballist~ played hockey" is about my least favourite recurring thread on here, but that's not the point. If the US puts the money in and creates the facilities and hires or trains the coaches and gets enough of the population taking the sport seriously at youth level, they absolutely could produce world class players if the process if given the necessary time and funds. Whether or not that happens or whether Pochettino is the man to do or not we'll probably never know, but it's easy to see the appeal.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Poch is not gonna change the largest structural inhibitor in US footballing development, which is pay-to-play youth systems! The MLS academies have made enormous progress and US prospect development is now by far the best it's been in my time following the sport, but it remains a major barrier

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

The "what if ~random basketballist~ played hockey" is about my least favourite recurring thread on here, but that's not the point. If the US puts the money in and creates the facilities and hires or trains the coaches and gets enough of the population taking the sport seriously at youth level, they absolutely could produce world class players if the process if given the necessary time and funds. Whether or not that happens or whether Pochettino is the man to do or not we'll probably never know, but it's easy to see the appeal.

I think the logistics of doing what people think is possible with youth soccer in the US is extremely difficult for a country the size of the US, both in terms of population and area. And fixing issues at the youth level doesn't address that the sport is just less popular than other options at a high school level and above. I played AYSO with 10-15 kids who all also played on club teams. I was the only one who played at the high school level or beyond, with all of them opting for football, basketball, etc... instead. Small sample size sure.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Poch is not gonna change the largest structural inhibitor in US footballing development, which is pay-to-play youth systems! The MLS academies have made enormous progress and US prospect development is now by far the best it's been in my time following the sport, but it remains a major barrier

Pay-to-play is the norm for all top level youth sports in the US though, it's not just a footballing issue. I do agree the growth of MLS academies has been a really huge asset.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Pay-to-play is the norm for all top level youth sports in the US though, it's not just a footballing issue. I do agree the growth of MLS academies has been a really huge asset.

oh i know it's not specifically a footballing issue, but when it's a different structure than every other country and pushes out good players it presents a development problem

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

The "what if ~random basketballist~ played hockey" is about my least favourite recurring thread on here, but that's not the point. If the US puts the money in and creates the facilities and hires or trains the coaches and gets enough of the population taking the sport seriously at youth level, they absolutely could produce world class players if the process if given the necessary time and funds. Whether or not that happens or whether Pochettino is the man to do or not we'll probably never know, but it's easy to see the appeal.

they would produce world class talent but hardly be “best team in the world” they may match the elites in Europe but that’ll take about 100 years and capitalism will swallow itself by then. Making this conversation pointless.

 

[Ben Grimm]

@Jussi We're never gonna win? What if we can't see your posts?

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

You're on fire today. 100 years? It's been less than 80 years since the end of WWII and (except for American football) many countries are competitive in sports that the US used to be the best in.

@Jussi We're never gonna win? What if we can't see your posts?

What?