LevelingSolo
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Luck is a skill
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The title of this thread is why casino owners love that people buy into this false narrative.
Luck is luck it's not a hard concept.
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MadLuke
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But the concept of you need to be quite good, just to often put yourself in a situation that in the best league in the world it is possible for you for luck to get your way.
At a team level yes, winning a cup will often involve luck (and bad luck for a couple of opponent) that year, if you are not the 77 Habs.
Still need to work enough and be good enough to be a good bounce and hot goaltender away to win the cup in a 4 series format.
Same for individual, Crosby and others crazy deflection goal always involve some luck, but if you train so much that you create a this work 33% of the time and have enough work ethic-will to put yourself in a good spot close to the net to do it and not only that you won a puck battle before and that why your D at the blueline has the puck to make a shot-pass near your stick right now, luck on that goal sure, over a career how many deflection goals you end up with, the time you got lucky and unlucky should balance out.
Both fact are so obvious (luck is luck, you can work to create more occasion luck can go your way and you can reduce how much luck you need because you maximized your action) that it is like saying nothing at all.
At a team level yes, winning a cup will often involve luck (and bad luck for a couple of opponent) that year, if you are not the 77 Habs.
Still need to work enough and be good enough to be a good bounce and hot goaltender away to win the cup in a 4 series format.
Same for individual, Crosby and others crazy deflection goal always involve some luck, but if you train so much that you create a this work 33% of the time and have enough work ethic-will to put yourself in a good spot close to the net to do it and not only that you won a puck battle before and that why your D at the blueline has the puck to make a shot-pass near your stick right now, luck on that goal sure, over a career how many deflection goals you end up with, the time you got lucky and unlucky should balance out.
Both fact are so obvious (luck is luck, you can work to create more occasion luck can go your way and you can reduce how much luck you need because you maximized your action) that it is like saying nothing at all.
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Chuck Downie
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There is a micro and macro level of luck.
No, you absolutely can't learn to control the micro level. Bounces are going to happen.
What you're talking about is the macro level where being good at something makes luck into a much smaller factor.
No, you absolutely can't learn to control the micro level. Bounces are going to happen.
What you're talking about is the macro level where being good at something makes luck into a much smaller factor.
Silky Johnson
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"Luck" as per Cambridge.
"the force that causes things, especially good things, to happen to you by chance and not as a result of your own efforts or abilities"
The above cannot be described as an ability.
Maybe you are talking about something different like Hockey IQ but more likely your perception is caused by some (confirmation) cognitive bias.
Redefining words to mean other things is not productive.
Silky Johnson
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It's neither. It's a phenomenon in principal. In reality it does not exist - in the way that all unfalceifiable things don't exist. It has no mechanism. It's magic essentially - and I don't believe in magic.Luck is an attribute, not a skill.
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It’s important for a thief/rogue character sometimes, or in FFX. I tend to skimp on it when building characters, but it’s definitely not just “magic”.
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Some players and teams appear more opportunistic because they're doing something to put themselves in better positions. That's certainly true.
To imply that actual luck isn't a huge factor in hockey is drivel and flim-flam.
To imply that actual luck isn't a huge factor in hockey is drivel and flim-flam.
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Luck is a misnomer. The puck doesn't move on its own, it only reacts to what the players do with it. Hitting the defender's shinpad and going in is still a play by the shooter to take a shot with the chance of a ricochet, something you're taught from a young age. The puck bouncing off a stanchion and into the net as the goalie skates behind the net is a result of the goalie playing the odds. Yeah, there is "luck" involved on those plays working or not, but that's just the way things go in sports.
It's moreso chaos than luck, the sheer number of tiny choices that players each make, the minute adjustments to their stride, physical battles, shots, or passes that all add up into something unpredictable. The better a player you are, the more you can manage this chaos, therefore the old adage goes, "you have to be good to be lucky, and lucky to be good".
Luck is the draft lottery, which is randomized chance determining outcomes. The actual game is all the result of deliberate actions that have an element of unpredictability to them.
It's moreso chaos than luck, the sheer number of tiny choices that players each make, the minute adjustments to their stride, physical battles, shots, or passes that all add up into something unpredictable. The better a player you are, the more you can manage this chaos, therefore the old adage goes, "you have to be good to be lucky, and lucky to be good".
Luck is the draft lottery, which is randomized chance determining outcomes. The actual game is all the result of deliberate actions that have an element of unpredictability to them.
Puck luck is why we talk about sample size in hockey. The best team in the league can lose to the worst team in the league on any given night while outshooting/outplaying them by a wide margin. A few goals off random deflections. A goalie that just happened to eat his Wheaties that day. It happens. But we know that if these 2 teams played a hundred times, the best team in the league would win 85 out of 100.
This is the result of a league with the absolute best players in the world and a salary cap. These guys are the less than 1 percent in their sport, and it probably took a lot of luck (and hard work) to even get there. Everything from being born into the right country to a family with the correct socioeconomic status etc. But in the end, you get these players bunched so close together on a small ice surface that sometimes luck can determine the outcome of a game.
And that is why guys like Gretzky, Lemieux and McDavid absolutely blow my mind.
This is the result of a league with the absolute best players in the world and a salary cap. These guys are the less than 1 percent in their sport, and it probably took a lot of luck (and hard work) to even get there. Everything from being born into the right country to a family with the correct socioeconomic status etc. But in the end, you get these players bunched so close together on a small ice surface that sometimes luck can determine the outcome of a game.
And that is why guys like Gretzky, Lemieux and McDavid absolutely blow my mind.
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