OT: Looking at Another Teams Dilema - The Isles

[Drew75]

Taking a break from discussing how to best blow up our entire team so that we can fill it with 18 year old "potential" - I've found myself curious what the Isles will do with their first round pick. As we know, they have to decide whether to give this years #5 pick to Buffalo, or next years pick which could possibly turn out to be one of the two gems.

If the Isles truly believe that they will be better next year and even possibly make the playoffs - then they would obviously take the really good player to be had at #5, and give up next years pick.

However - you never know what will happen, and giving up McDavid for Vannek is a career ending move. But if Snow plays it safe for next year giving up the #5 pick this year, and the Isles do better next year, he'll also get screwed.

It's an interesting dilemma ... and I know if the Isles board is anything like ours, Snow will get ripped no matter what choice he makes.

What would you do in his shoes? I think I would give up next years pick (2015) and do everything in my power to take a shot at finishing better than 5th last. A bird in the hand and all that - they will get a very good player at #5 this year, with no guarantees about next year.

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[Peasy]

Whatever happens sucks because Buffalo is in our division.

 

[charliolemieux]

In before people say they should trade Tavares for picks and tank for McDavid.

 

[613Leafer]

Trading the pick for "help now" could help avoid giving up a top 5-10 pick in a very talented draft next season.

No matter what they do, there's risk involved. They've backed themselves into a corner with that trade. It might be a good opportunity to take advantage of a team that will be desperately trying to save face and not give up that high a pick next season.

Maybe we could do something straight up for the pick, or maybe we could trade up for their pick. I do think there's a good chance their pick could be available.

 

[ACC1224]

The ideal approach would be to trade Tavares and tank.

 

[Center Ice Scrum*]

The ideal approach would be to trade Tavares and tank.

HF needs a like button.

 

[ForSpareParts*]

HF needs a like button.

Hahaha

Good one.

 

[Daisy Jane]

he needs to do the Toronto equivalent of the Niedermayer trade. Even if it means totally spending money (Sorry, Wang). Trade that pick (to us, we'll give you Reimer for it ) but seriously, trade DOWN that pick (automatically giving the pick to Buffalo).

then sign, or make trades to ensure that you finish even if it's out of the top ten, that's better than top 5. (again). though i would laugh so hard even if they do that, and missed the playoffs..... they'd win the lottery.

 

[Peasy]

he needs to do the Toronto equivalent of the Niedermayer trade. Even if it means totally spending money (Sorry, Wang). Trade that pick (to us, we'll give you Reimer for it ) but seriously, trade DOWN that pick (automatically giving the pick to Buffalo).

then sign, or make trades to ensure that you finish even if it's out of the top ten, that's better than top 5. (again). though i would laugh so hard even if they do that, and missed the playoffs..... they'd win the lottery.

And then Buffalo gets McDavid, yayyyy.

 

[Cor]

A top 5 pick next year is better then the 1st overall this year.

I'm not sure if I would laugh or cry if the Sabres got both McDavid and Eichel next season

 

[Daisy Jane]

And then Buffalo gets McDavid, yayyyy.

A top 5 pick next year is better then the 1st overall this year.

I'm not sure if I would laugh or cry if the Sabres got both McDavid and Eichel next season

maybe we can petition to move to the Metro. Oh wait. that's more games with Carolina and Columbus. never mind.

 

[613Leafer]

A top 5 pick next year is better then the 1st overall this year.

I'm not sure if I would laugh or cry if the Sabres got both McDavid and Eichel next season

They're getting one of Ekblad/Reinhart/Bennet this draft, and already have Myers, Hodgson, Ristolainen, Zadarov, Girgensens, Grigorenko, Comphers, Pysyk, etc. as guys under the age of 25.

They'll be very likely adding a top 3 pick of their own next draft in a very talented draft, and then might be adding another top piece through the Islanders pick.

Buffalo's NHL team is garbage right now. But give them 3-4 years... they could have one very deep, very young, and very talented team, with tons of capspace to surround those young guys with a couple of solid UFA signings.

 

[666]

The Islander MUST keep this years pick. To even suggest that they will finish worst next year would be like openly tanking. Trading it for immediate help could be a good idea.

 

[Mess]

Taking a break from discussing how to best blow up our entire team so that we can fill it with 18 year old "potential" - I've found myself curious what the Isles will do with their first round pick. As we know, they have to decide whether to give this years #5 pick to Buffalo, or next years pick which could possibly turn out to be one of the two gems. .

FYI the Isles have likely already decided they will be keeping this year pick.

April 20th 2014

Garth Snow wouldn't 100% commit but said he would "wager any amount of money that they will retain this years first round pick.

 

[Mess]

And then Buffalo gets McDavid, yayyyy.

Then how many years thereafter until we see the Sabres pass our Leafs in the standings building around their generational young franchise center?.

If I'm the Isles I'd certainly consider holding on to next years pick because the draft is so much stronger. If Tavares gets hurt next year then Isles would be picking higher then this year.

 

[Peasy]

The trade was terrible to begin with. Its sort of like the Kessel trade, but now the Islanders only have a 2nd and Collberg to show for it and not an elite scorer like Kessel.

 

[TheScruffington]

And then Buffalo gets McDavid, yayyyy.

If we want to sell our roster and tank for McDavid, we would have no problem. Buffalo has been pretty good at kicking our ass. We can use this to our advantage.

 

[hullsy47]

A top 5 pick next year is better then the 1st overall this year.

I'm not sure if I would laugh or cry if the Sabres got both McDavid and Eichel next season

if they do in 3 years buffalo wil have 2 players better than anyone on our roster in cluding kessel ...im not sure colorado does a kessel for mckinnon straight up now....only way we are gonna get our franchise center is to either draft him or shed about 8 million in salary a year for the next 5 and try to land staal ,maybe spezza....... u cant rush shanny ,im sure hes trying to get as much imput from every hockey guy he knows looking from the outside at the leafs,he might not like what he hears ,but if hes a real boss he ;ll act

 

[johnny_rudeboy]

Tricky decision for sure. Seeing as the East is a bit more open then the West Islanders could just as well make the playoffs next season but they might as well be a bottom team again. They do have a very young team and if all players take a step forward in their development they could surprise some teams.

But the 2015 draft is to good to not have any first round picks in so I would trade this years pick away if I where the Islanders. Even more so seeing as if you win the lottery you move up to pick first as long as you are not a playoff team.

 

[Trapper]

Then how many years thereafter until we see the Sabres pass our Leafs in the standings building around their generational young franchise center?.

If I'm the Isles I'd certainly consider holding on to next years pick because the draft is so much stronger. If Tavares gets hurt next year then Isles would be picking higher then this year.

Guarantee as soon as the Sabres pass us in the standings or have more success as a team as a result, 5 minutes later people here will be saying why didn't we build through the draft?

 

[Banic]

Buffalo has the added advantage of knowing they were able to trade their star players to increase picks in the first place. Hello Muskoka 5.