Liljegren needs a long term contract

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A very cap efficient D would be:

Rielly-Lyubushkin
Giordano-Liljegren
Sandin-Brodie

Might not be the most name-value defense but it would be very cheap and effective.
While I'd personally have Lyubushkin and Brodie switch places on those pairings, I'd fully agree on that looking to be a quality group with everyone healthy and playing at their best. We'll have to see if that's how things shake out for next season's blueline.
 
While I'd personally have Lyubushkin and Brodie switch places on those pairings, I'd fully agree on that looking to be a quality group with everyone healthy and playing at their best. We'll have to see if that's how things shake out for next season's blueline.
Looking at how well a veteran D has been helping Liljegren flourish, I'd like to see them do a similar favor to Sandin.
 
Looking at how well a veteran D has been helping Liljegren flourish, I'd like to see them do a similar favor to Sandin.
Rielly-Liljegren
Sandin-Brodie
Gio-Holl

Would be pretty good pairings imo next year. Some team out there surely would have interest in Muzzin. Boosh can stay as the 7 and draw in if someone struggles/gets injured.
 
Maybe the strategic bridge length gets him to the Marner/Tavares UFA year at which point you can stickhandle a heftier re-sign along with Tavares' deal coming off the books.

I think over the next 1-3 years you try to strategically move off Muzzin (this summer) and probably Brodie and or Holl next to transition to the next era.
Brodie is unlikely to play anywhere else. He's more likely to sign a league minimum deal to stay than he is to sign for 4 somewhere else. He might go to Ottawa or Detriot for money but anywhere else is out of the question.
 
Looking at how well a veteran D has been helping Liljegren flourish, I'd like to see them do a similar favor to Sandin.
I do like that idea. I'd just ideally prefer Rielly and Brodie to be 1-2 in TOI more often than not.
 
Brodie is unlikely to play anywhere else. He's more likely to sign a league minimum deal to stay than he is to sign for 4 somewhere else. He might go to Ottawa or Detriot for money but anywhere else is out of the question.

Maybe Brodie's $5 million runs out the year after next and we give that money to Lily once his bridge deal is up.
 
A very cap efficient D would be:

Rielly-Lyubushkin
Giordano-Liljegren
Sandin-Brodie

Might not be the most name-value defense but it would be very cheap and effective.

I like the 2nd and third pairings with a youngan and a vet on both pairings for stability.
 
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The way Gio is playing, league minimum seems pretty skimpy. Spezza has really slowed down this year, so he gets what he deserves But GIO making minimum, wow. Be great for MLSE if it happens.
 
It's unlikely that Liljegren would even be willing to sign a reasonable long term contract, and cap savings are more important for the Leafs over the next couple years than after that.
 
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sure let's see if the agent bites on the Zaitsev contract;)

realistically though hoping to see 3yrs 2.25 AAV and about the same for Sandin and maybe Gio the same money on a 2 year deal

Engvall also needs a new deal also in and around the 2.25AAV mark

those numbers significantly change if the Leafs have a great showing in the playoffs

Mrazek, Muzzin off to Robidas Island, move Kerfoot for a decent prospect or a couple of picks

you'd have 12,925,000 in cleared cap space

Reilly eats up 2.5m of that
 
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sure let's see if the agent bites on the Zaitsev contract;)

realistically though hoping to see 3yrs 2.25 AAV and about the same for Sandin and maybe Gio the same money on a 2 year deal

Engvall also needs a new deal also in and around the 2.25AAV mark

those numbers significantly change if the Leafs have a great showing in the playoffs

Mrazek, Muzzin off to Robidas Island, move Kerfoot for a decent prospect or a couple of picks

you'd have 12,925,000 in cleared cap space

Reilly eats up 2.5m of that

If you factor in the small rise in the cap for next year as well as the Kessel contract coming off the books, we basically break even on the Rielly contract
 
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If you factor in the small rise in the cap for next year as well as the Kessel contract coming off the books, we basically break even on the Rielly contract
Good point Syph, the year after that though, if there are no other pandemics, and barring any other kind of catastrophe, we will hopefully see about a 7.5 to 10m dollar rise. Which will go a long way in regard to the Leafs cap troubles.
 
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He’s still a very good top 4 d. I realize he could drop off at any point, that’s why it’s a one year deal. So what do you think he gets?
In all seriousness if he chooses to continue his playing career I'd expect the Leafs to spread that kind of money(3-4m)over two years. You could have a proviso built in just in case he really declines that he goes down to become a player coach with the Marlies, just like Spezza has.
 
Leafs can't afford the gamble on a long term deal with Lily. Don't think Lily would want such a deal either. He's the type who is slowly (but surely) reaching his upside.
 
Offer him 3.5-4M at 6-8 yeaers, hopefully he does it
If I were Lilly's agent, I'd advise him not to accept that offer, ask for 3 mil next season and keep at it on increasing 1 year offers until he has a killer year. If offered a 6+ year contract, I'd suggest anything less than 6 million per year is an automatic 'no". The Leafs are known to overpay, so playing hard ball is a very viable tactic.

But that's just me. I'm sure Lilly's real agent will operate much the same way.

And fyi, since I've yet to see anyone actually catch this, I'm talking about ASKING price, not what he will actually get. Two different topics.
 
I think a 3 year deal would be smart. Puts him to the time Tavares’ contract is up and should have lots of money to play with. We just can’t afford to gamble a 6 or 8 year deal on a kid with 69 (nice) games under his belt.
 
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If I were Lilly's agent, I'd advise him not to accept that offer, ask for 3 mil next season and keep at it on increasing 1 year offers until he has a killer year. If offered a 6+ year contract, I'd suggest anything less than 6 million per year is an automatic 'no". The Leafs are known to overpay, so playing hard ball is a very viable tactic.

But that's just me. I'm sure Lilly's real agent will operate much the same way.

And fyi, since I've yet to see anyone actually catch this, I'm talking about ASKING price, not what he will actually get. Two different topics.
Every player is 1 injury away from retirement. It is the job of agents to get the most money possible for as long as possible. With a max contract length of 8 years, an 8 year deal for 4 million per, would take him to 30ish, would be able to get probably north of 6 or 7 and likely as high as 10 over 6-8 at the end of it based on inflation assuming he performs.
 
Would love to get him a long term deal, but I think a 2 year bridge would be terrific for our cap. Muzzin and Brodie come off the books in two years, and having Liljegren's impact on a 2m x 2y deal would give us a very nice little window of opportunity for the next two years. Signing him to big term now will raise that cap hit quite a bit and might cost us a depth winger or backup goalie. I'm fine paying Liljegren more down the road because the cap will be in a much better situation for it.
 
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