Prospect Info: Lias Andersson - Part IV

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I wonder about that sometimes. We assume that should be true, but how many times do we hear after the fact about guys who washed out or even thrived on the ice while being miserable? Same thing with child actors. We all think it would be great to have fame and money at a young age, but a fairly sizeable percentage of people who ARE famous and rich at a young age see their lives go off the rails. Sometimes its because of toxic/controlling parents/agents. Sometimes it's the pressure. I don't know if I tend towards kindness on this topic because I'm on the older side of the board population (40) and work with this age group (18-22ish), but I'd give the kid another chance and see if I couldn't help him rebuild his bridges.
For sure. That’s true for some. I think for *most* of them, though, they’re doing their favorite thing and being paid to focus *only* on that thing. It’s not even just the money. It’s that they (likely) chose the sport they like the most and made it to a point they are expected to focus only on that thing. Of course there are other things that get in the way, but in terms of basic requirements and day to day a guy like this should be (or could be) a pig in shit, so to speak. Anyhow, I’m speaking broadly.
 
I guess here's my question if we're going down this rabbit hole..and I'm sure I'll get attacked for asking this but...which of these is it?

Was he getting bullied?
Was he lonely?
Was he injured?

Was it all 3?

Was it something else?

The reason I ask is because of the circumstances of how he left. He didn't up and leave and said I need some time and took off. He demanded a trade and walked away. He then cut off all ties to the organization.

So, if it's depression or something like it that would lend itself to connecting the dots that he blames the organization. Ok, why? Was it playing time? Was it bullying? Was it them forcing him play thru injuries?

There's just so much vagueness here with different little things being dropped here and there it's frankly exhausting. I'd like to just see the kid play some good hockey and put all this behind him. I'm not sure I really want to keep hearing little hints and tidbits here and there... I think he either needs to just stop talking about it and putting it behind him... Or just open up about it without all the vagueness.
 
Now that is some of the skill he needs to show, but my concern is that everything is on the PP. He's not going to get that time on this team. He'd be behind way too many guys.

But, production is production and maybe it can begin translating over to 5 on 5 play eventually.

His goal earlier this week was 5-on-5
 
I love the continued development and growth in Lias's game year over year since his draft. With the start of every season, we've seen improvement in each of the weaker areas of his game, and I really think he looks to be on track to developing into an NHL middle/bottom six center that we've been looking for from our farm system.

If you took the team and fanbase's expectations, along with the circumstances that played out last year, out of the equation, we'd all probably be pumped seeing these highlights and clips. In a vacuum, to me he looks like a prospect that's taking a normal, 3 year development path to get to the NHL.

Unfortunately this is the reality of the situation, and it's probably too little too late to get another shot with the organization, but I do feel he'll be an impactful NHL player in the near future.
 
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I'm going to say this as bluntly and respectfully for all parties involved here, but mostly Rangers player personnel & development:
  • If you draft a rich kid from Europe, leave him in Europe. The AHL is a punitive lifestyle, and the kid, is still a kid. Rich or not. Nobody wants a downgrade in their quality of life. Lias is doing well. I hope he's happy. Because a happy player, is one that is in the best situation to develop.
Let's not mismanage another valuable asset.
 
I'm going to say this as bluntly and respectfully for all parties involved here, but mostly Rangers player personnel & development:
  • If you draft a rich kid from Europe, leave him in Europe. The AHL is a punitive lifestyle, and the kid, is still a kid. Rich or not. Nobody wants a downgrade in their quality of life. Lias is doing well. I hope he's happy. Because a happy player, is one that is in the best situation to develop.
Let's not mismanage another valuable asset.

i understand the point.

perhaps drafting a kid who comes from modest means or is broke will feel more at home in Hartford - sry, couldn’t resist.
 
i understand the point.

perhaps drafting a kid who comes from modest means or is broke will feel more at home in Hartford - sry, couldn’t resist.

It's the truth. It really is. You can't force happiness. Especially not for a teenage boy who needs to develop his sense of his identity and confidence.
 
I'm going to say this as bluntly and respectfully for all parties involved here, but mostly Rangers player personnel & development:
  • If you draft a rich kid from Europe, leave him in Europe. The AHL is a punitive lifestyle, and the kid, is still a kid. Rich or not. Nobody wants a downgrade in their quality of life. Lias is doing well. I hope he's happy. Because a happy player, is one that is in the best situation to develop.
Let's not mismanage another valuable asset.

It's nice to earn up to 250k a year in the SHL instead of max 70k in the AHL on an ELC.
 
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It's nice to earn up to 250k a year in the SHL instead of max 70k in the AHL on an ELC.
While this is sometimes true, he would also be due ~$90K in signing bonuses each year plus the myriad stipends and allowances that AHL players receive, including the furnished apartment with all utilities paid, travel allowances, etc. NHL draft picks on ELCs with signing bonuses will be living well above the median income levels for single adults in pretty much every market they ply in. Median household income in Hartford in 2018 was $35,000. They're hardly destitute and actually live quite well. If you read an interview with an established AHL player, most of them acknowledge this.

Lias played here for the equivalent of two years--74 AHL games and 66 NHL games--and made in the neighborhood of $1.12M. His financial situation here was likely better or at least very comparable to what he would have made elsewhere. His mental and emotional comfort is a different story, but the financial aspect doesn't really seem like it would have been much of a consideration.
 
While this is sometimes true, he would also be due ~$90K in signing bonuses each year plus the myriad stipends and allowances that AHL players receive, including the furnished apartment with all utilities paid, travel allowances, etc. NHL draft picks on ELCs with signing bonuses will be living well above the median income levels for single adults in pretty much every market they ply in. Median household income in Hartford in 2018 was $35,000. They're hardly destitute and actually live quite well. If you read an interview with an established AHL player, most of them acknowledge this.

Lias played here for the equivalent of two years--74 AHL games and 66 NHL games--and made in the neighborhood of $1.12M. His financial situation here was likely better or at least very comparable to what he would have made elsewhere. His mental and emotional comfort is a different story, but the financial aspect doesn't really seem like it would have been much of a consideration.

Yeah, the financial aspect was never the issue, nor the reason he went back to Sweden. My comment was more in a vacuum just looking at the limitations of the salary offered in the AHL for players on an entry level contract
 
Yeah, the financial aspect was never the issue, nor the reason he went back to Sweden. My comment was more in a vacuum just looking at the limitations of the salary offered in the AHL for players on an entry level contract
Understood.

I just think there's this misconception that guys, particularly the more heralded prospects, are playing for peanuts when they start in the AHL. Your better prospects are making ~$160K between the base and bonuses, plus much more with the perquisites. A full-time AHL player will often times be making more money (Perhaps significantly more depending on where they came from) playing in the AHL on their ELC than they would if they were "back home" in Europe.

Beyond that, if they can sneak in a few games or a couple dozen days on the roster even while they're basically still a full-time NHL player, their earnings can increase substantially.
 
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