Pre-Game Talk: Leafs vs Lightning

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I've loved Liljegren since he's come back in but that's one hell of a challenge he'd be getting

He comes through that without getting shown up by the Tampa forwards it's going to be a magnificent effort
You have to assume it's just a placeholder for Dermott.
 
You have to assume it's just a placeholder for Dermott.
You can also assume that it is potentially related to Dermott missing most of the 2nd period with an injury last night. Swelling may have increased when he took his foot out of the skate.
 
Holy crap Liljegren with Rielly?

Sucks for Dermott cause he didn't play his way out of the lineup at all.
 
Lilly has been great but top pair against Tampa? that seems like a risk they don't need to take

We have control of the last change and Brodie/Muzzin will take the brunt of the tough assignments, and I can actually see Sandin/Holl taking the second most, so not too concerned.

I do think this will be a good test for Liljegren, however he is used, either a more offensive role or taking some tough matchups will be good for him.
 
Slightly OT, but why is it year after year the Leafs draw the short end of the stick when it comes to PP opportunities, and times short handed?

Some would say 10 games is a small sample size where they are currently 27th in PP opportunities, but it's been going on for years. Especially a puck possession team like Toronto. It really makes no sense.
 
You can also assume that it is potentially related to Dermott missing most of the 2nd period with an injury last night. Swelling may have increased when he took his foot out of the skate.
They thought enough of it that they took x-rays. A negative result, but even a bone bruise can keep you out weeks. Hope it is nothing serious.
 
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Slightly OT, but why is it year after year the Leafs draw the short end of the stick when it comes to PP opportunities, and times short handed?

Some would say 10 games is a small sample size where they are currently 27th in PP opportunities, but it's been going on for years. Especially a puck possession team like Toronto. It really makes no sense.

Game management is my assumption.

Penalties taken vs penalties drawn end up being pretty even for teams over the course a season.

So because we don't take a lot of penalties, the refs don't try to even up the calls.
 
Slightly OT, but why is it year after year the Leafs draw the short end of the stick when it comes to PP opportunities, and times short handed?

Some would say 10 games is a small sample size where they are currently 27th in PP opportunities, but it's been going on for years. Especially a puck possession team like Toronto. It really makes no sense.

Been saying this for a while too. Makes no sense. It's hard not to be bias when saying it but there's definitely truth to it. The stats in this particular situation do back it up. I think its the 4th year in a row now this has been the same ol.
 
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Game management is my assumption.

Penalties taken vs penalties drawn end up being pretty even for teams over the course a season.

So because we don't take a lot of penalties, the refs don't try to even up the calls.
This is the answer, if you want more PP time you need to take more penalties. Ridiculous, but the way it is in the NHL.
 
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Holl could just be a placeholder for Dermott in his absence. We'll find out Dermott's status soon enough.
 
A Rielly-Liljegren pairing would seem to be okay. Certainly don't want to mess with Muzzin-Brodie at the moment and Holl can work his way back into and up in the lineup if his play dictates as much. I'd be more interested in the overall minutes given to each rather than the initial 5 vs 5 setup anyway.
 
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That third line is really a fourth line: 3 goals in 10 games with a combined shooting pct. of ~6% ... and I still think they're over-achieving.
 
This is the answer, if you want more PP time you need to take more penalties. Ridiculous, but the way it is in the NHL.
Is that actually a thing though? The teams that take the most penalties are also on the PP the most.

For me it seems the Leafs play a passive game so few penalties either way.
 
That third line is really a fourth line: 3 goals in 10 games with a combined shooting pct. of ~6% ... and I still think they're over-achieving.

Otherside of that coin, based on role and icetime a lot of great 4th lines are indistinguishable from shutdown 3rd lines, and how they are perceived is shaped by the role/ability of the other bottom 6 line
 

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