Series Talk: Leafs Vs Lightning- Thunderstruck

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I like this.

Stamkos hooking Marner.
Vasi just coughed up the puck for no reason.
Hedman just watching
 
They sure can … I wouldn’t underestimate the back to back defending cup champions.

I have a hard time seeing Tampa losing two in a row at home, I imagine they’ll even it up tomorrow.
Going off by Leafs haven't even been their best yet but up 2-1. Tampa isn't suddenly some magic team because they won twice in a row who can wave a wand and summon powers from last season. Their bottom 6 is ugly compared to the last 2 years. Yesterday was the game for them to win by how Matthews and marner line got outplayed and they didn't come up with the win. It's going to cost them now.
 
Anyone notice how every time they do a close up of Hedman or Sergachev, they have this look like they've just seen a ghost and shat their pants?
One thing I realized these playoffs is Sergachev is absolutely horrific defensively. I don't know how Tampa won the cup with him tbh, absolute turn over machine and the guy can not defend for the life of him. He's Gardiner/Barrie bad defensively. Exploiting Foote/Sergachev has been huge for the Leafs success. If we can keep rolling and secure another win in game 4, no doubt we end it in 5 in Toronto. Home ice and last change, Keefe will continue to abuse that 3rd pairing of Tampa.

Game 4 is going to be the best game of the series, absolute must win game.
 
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One thing I realized these playoffs is Sergachev is absolutely horrific defensively. I don't know how Tampa won the cup with him tbh, absolute turn over machine and the guy can not defend for the life of him. He's Gardiner/Barrie bad defensively. Exploiting Foote/Sergachev has been huge for the Leafs success. If we can keep rolling and secure another win in game 4, no doubt we end it in 5 in Toronto. Home ice and last change, Keefe will continue to abuse that 3rd pairing of Tampa.

Game 4 is going to be the best game of the series, absolute must win game.

He's so bad even Cirelli and Point can't save him. Noticed how Cooper had Cirelli stapled to Matthews yesterday and his line still got some nice chances because of how awful he is.
 
One thing I realized these playoffs is Sergachev is absolutely horrific defensively. I don't know how Tampa won the cup with him tbh, absolute turn over machine and the guy can not defend for the life of him. He's Gardiner/Barrie bad defensively. Exploiting Foote/Sergachev has been huge for the Leafs success. If we can keep rolling and secure another win in game 4, no doubt we end it in 5 in Toronto. Home ice and last change, Keefe will continue to abuse that 3rd pairing of Tampa.

Game 4 is going to be the best game of the series, absolute must win game.

Tampa has zero draft capital beyond this year, where they still have their first.

Their prospect pool is poor, though in their defense they did just win back to back Cups.

Only Palat and Rutta to re-up this year.

But next year?

Colton
Cirelli
Killorn
Cernak
Sergachev
Foote

Foote and Colton will probably be easy, give them 2.5 each. If Colton pops another 20 goal season he might cost up to 4.

Sergachev has all world physical tools but you look into his eyes and you can see the back of his head.

He’s the Kasperi Kapanen of Dmen. The tools are there, but he’s just a little too dumb to be elite.

Even assuming Killorn walks in UFA, I don’t see a way for Tampa to keep all those guys, Sergachev is who I’d trade. His two cups, skill and residual draft pedigree is enough to entice a very nice package from someone.

Regardless of what happens, and this is far from over, but this is probably it for this core, they’ve already lost five(!) crucial contributors to their cups, and time and the cap come for us all.

They’ll still be good, but Washington or Boston good and not Carolina or Florida good.
 
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Tampa has zero draft capital beyond this year, where they still have their first.

Their prospect pool is poor, though in their defense they did just win back to back Cups.

Only Palat and Rutta to re-up this year.

But next year?

Colton
Cirelli
Killorn
Cernak
Sergachev
Foote

Foote and Colton will probably be easy, give them 2.5 each. If Colton pops another 20 goal season he might cost up to 4.

Sergachev has all world physical tools but you look into his eyes and you can see the back of his head.

He’s the Kasperi Kapanen of Dmen.

Even assuming Killorn walks in UFA, I don’t see a way for Tampa to keep all those guys, Sergachev is who I’d trade. His two cups, skill and residual draft pedigree is enough to entice a very nice package from someone.

Regardless of what happens, and this is far from over, but this is probably it for this core, they’ve already lost five(!) crucial contributors to their cups, and time and the cap come for us all.

They’ll still be good, but Washington or Boston good and not Carolina or Florida good.
To be fair, players like that get moved to build the prospect pool. Most teams need to constantly retool half their line due to the cap. Tampa is the rare advantaged team that is allowed to sign players cheaper due to their tax advantage. They also exploit the rules to significantly go above the cap. That only changes if a Canadian team can replicate those advantages.
 
To be fair, players like that get moved to build the prospect pool. Most teams need to constantly retool half their line due to the cap. Tampa is the rare advantaged team that is allowed to sign players cheaper due to their tax advantage. They also exploit the rules to significantly go above the cap. That only changes if a Canadian team can replicate those advantages.

Tampa should definitely do their best to keep Palat, Cernak, Cirelli and Foote, I would.

I expect something to be done about the LTIR Loophole Tampa used to much success and Vegas failed at, maybe even this summer.

All it would take is ‘If the contract is over X only half of the money can be buried.’, 4 mil is a fine value for X I think.

It’d be nice to see the playing field evened regarding the taxes but don’t count on it.

Players aren’t taxed at a uniform rate - playing at Amelie, Stamkos pays no state income tax. Playing in LA or New York he offers up his internal organs.

Don’t forget the Leafs (Rangers, Habs, Bruins and Canucks too) have advantages of their own, namely the way they can structure deals so you get 80% of your money the second you sign.

It might not be as big a draw as not getting washed on taxes every year, but when you sign a 60 million dollar deal and get 48 of it that day, you can literally take half of that and build a portfolio big enough that your grandkids can eat off of it.
 
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1/2 inch from Total disaster for Vasi and the Bolts
it's like NHL video game for the playstion where goalies pass the puck after a save instead of just hanging on for the whistle. that's why this shouldn't happen in a real game.

Surely there was a penalty on Stamkos for that...I mean it's like Muzzin's penalty right?
given the situation i think the refs were looking at the goalie and missed the hook.
 
The Muzz hooking call was one of the softest calls I've ever seen. Highly suspicious.

Anyways...

The boys are playing tremendous hockey right now, on both ends of the ice.
But I'm not getting ahead of myself as I've been let down by this team waaaay too many times.
I will say, everything is clicking for us right now and the special teams (which has always been a concern for us in past playoff encounters) have been everything you could've hoped for & then some.

My 3 stars from last night:

1) Mikheyev (even aside from the two EN, he was fantastic on the PK)
2) Engvall (team high 3 points - 3 assists)
3) Cambell (held it down from start to finish)
 

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