GDT: LEAFS @ VEGAS: 24/10/22-10pm ET TSN | PHIL THE IRONMAN THRILL

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The stubbornness with Holl is annoying. It’s yet another jake gardener situation.

Guy makes bone head mistakes, management digs their heels in to stick it to everyone and eventually he loses the game for you.

Just wait to see how you feel when Dubas resigns him with a raise…

2023 UFA RD:

Klingberg, washed and not cheap, no.
Erik Johnson, maybe for cheap for a year.
Dumba, won’t be cheap so no.
Severson, maybe but I hope not, no cheapy.
Mayfield, my #1 choice.
TVR, maybe for depth.
 
Can anyone tell me why Holl still plays for this team?

Asking for a friend.

I believe this is the year that he will be our #7 option when healthy. Sandin and Liljegren (last year) seem to have started cementing themselves to the team and Holl isn't starting over the other 4 vets.
 
I think Rielly is back there for puck retrieval and passing, but not much else.

All he really does is just pass it around the perimeter to Matthews or Marner. I’m sure Robertson could do that too. We could also use a legit shooting option back there. Most elite teams have one.

Wouldn’t hurt to try one would think.
 
Marners coasting is hurting not only Matthews but the entire team. His mouth and his bad play has made him a pariah with the fans and, most likely, the coaching staff. He needs a reboot! And that reboot should be in the butt right outa town.

speaks for yourself... I think by the end of the season, even the cranky old men who think they are the only "grown men" will love him again.
 
Just wait to see how you feel when Dubas resigns him with a raise…

2023 UFA RD:

Klingberg, washed and not cheap, no.
Erik Johnson, maybe for cheap for a year.
Dumba, won’t be cheap so no.
Severson, maybe but I hope not, no cheapy.
Mayfield, my #1 choice.
TVR, maybe for depth.
That’s IF Dubas is still around to do so… :sarcasm:
 
Just wait to see how you feel when Dubas resigns him with a raise…

2023 UFA RD:

Klingberg, washed and not cheap, no.
Erik Johnson, maybe for cheap for a year.
Dumba, won’t be cheap so no.
Severson, maybe but I hope not, no cheapy.
Mayfield, my #1 choice.
TVR, maybe for depth.

We already have 6 NHL D under contract for next season.
 
All he really does is just pass it around the perimeter to Matthews or Marner. I’m sure Robertson could do that too. We could also use a legit shooting option back there. Most elite teams have one.

Wouldn’t hurt to try one would think.

Wouldn't hurt I don't think, but it isn't like our PP is terrible, it is still 24%.
 
We already have 6 NHL D under contract for next season.

True but injuries happen, I definitely think that someone has had the Robidas Island conversation with Muzzin - which all things considered is probably what’s best for him, he’s very very close to being done.

And three of them make less combined than each one of the top three, moving out someone on F to spread money to the D is the right move.
 
Played much better by the end of the 1st. Hope they have a better second and third. Prob won't make it through to the end. GLG.
 
marner and tavares clearly performed some sort of freaky friday spell this offseason lol. marner has been horrendousssss with the puck so far this season.
 
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