Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign RW Max Ellis to a 2 Year ELC

[kerk]

He will probably just take Seney's spot in the lineup, since Seney is a pending UFA. Ellis is at least someone we may be able to develop into a decent depth option down the line. We are going to be trusting a lot of prospects to carry the torch next year.

idk, seney's been arguably the best marlie all season and has gotten into a couple NHL games. i'd like to see him brought back.

 

[SprDaVE]

idk, seney's been arguably the best marlie all season and has gotten into a couple NHL games. i'd like to see him brought back.

I'd also bring him back.

 

[meefer]

How many of you folks have watched him, with him being the focus of your attention? And yet you're capable of evaluating this deal?

 

[Menzinger]

Odd signing, his numbers weren't particularly impressive. Don't know much about college hockey or how good Notre Dame is though.

Edit: Hm, looks like he led his team in scoring (goals and points), though there were 6 other players who had between 24-27 pts, including two d-men who had 27.

Notre Dame has a top program. Good track record with players

 

[Menzinger]

Again - I know nothing about this player but it's comical to see Steve Simmons shit on this signing because of his size. Claiming the Leafs were hiding his size in their tweet LMAO.

Steve Simmons is a disease. The one thing most of us can all agree on.

There's quite an irony that the biggest hockey stats analysis haters like Simmons tend to always bring up the most useless one: the guys height (which is probably out of date anyways)

 

[SeaOfBlue]

idk, seney's been arguably the best marlie all season and has gotten into a couple NHL games. i'd like to see him brought back.

I'd also bring him back.

He is a Group 6 UFA and he is sort of a tweener in the sense that he is not really good enough to play in the NHL on a team like ours but also too good for an AHL job and should either go to the KHL to make a lot more money, or to a weaker team to have a better chance of cracking the NHL. He is still young enough (26 this year) to crack a weaker team as a late bloomer.

It would also be nice to get a guy who is more of a natural center in that role so we have better depth for the Leafs. Seney has filled in fine in a pinch, but he is better as a winger at both the NHL and AHL levels. Pontus Holmberg is also a decent center option, but like Seney, he is also not that great at draws and ideally you have a guy like him as center insurance rather than an every day center (I personally have him and SDA splitting draws on a top 6 line next year). Ben Meyers would have been perfect, but there are a few group 6 UFA's who should be able to clear waivers and would be great fits as well (i.e. Adam Brooks).

I found the odd highlight of Ellis on Youtube and he looks a lot like Seney. Same size and high end speed. Reports say he plays both special teams and the way he is generally described is practically identical to Seney. Other than the fact that he is younger and less proven, he sounds like he can fit Seney's role like a glove. He doesn't seem as great of a prospect as Steeves was last year, and it will probably be a downgrade in overall quality vs. Seney, but at least we are getting a guy who could have some NHL upside for the Leafs given he is only turning 22 this year... And I can take that trade considering Ellis should be able to still handle a top 9 role in the AHL on day 1.

Maple Leafs sign Max Ellis to entry-level deal: The 411 on the new Leaf prospect

With the NCAA Hockey season nearing its ultimate conclusion, the Maple Leafs snapped up one of the more coveted undrafted free agents in Notre Dame’s Max Ellis. Ellis will join the Toronto Marlies on a professional tryout for the remainder of the 2021-22 season and the playoffs, according to the...

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[hotpaws]

There's quite an irony that the biggest hockey stats analysis haters like Simmons tend to always bring up the most useless one: the guys height (which is probably out of date anyways)

since when is size a useless stat ?

he also isn't very productive as a 22 year old but hey let's pimp him and the team for signing him for a few days and then forget he was ever in the system , lol

 

[SprDaVE]

There's quite an irony that the biggest hockey stats analysis haters like Simmons tend to always bring up the most useless one: the guys height (which is probably out of date anyways)

Nothing like judging a player based on nothing but a scale. Removes all credibility.

 

[Menzinger]

since when is size a useless stat ?

he also isn't very productive as a 22 year old but hey let's pimp him and the team for signing him for a few days and then forget he was ever in the system , lol

Because it literally tells you absolutely nothing about their ability to play hockey well one way or the other. I find it particularly fascinating why so many "eye test" people will jump all over it as a stat to bash a prospect they've likely never even see play a full game. If he was 6'8 it doesn't make him more likely to make the NHL.

I don't see too many people here claiming he's going to be amazing either so not sure whose "pimping" what. He comes from a good team,could maybe develop into something worthwhile, or maybe not.

 

[hotpaws]

Because it literally tells you absolutely nothing about their ability to play hockey well one way or the other. I find it particularly fascinating why so many "eye test" people will jump all over it as a stat to bash a prospect they've likely never even see play a full game. If he was 6'8 it doesn't make him more likely to make the NHL.

I don't see too many people here claiming he's going to be amazing either so not sure whose "pimping" what. He comes from a good team,could maybe develop into something worthwhile, or maybe not.

hockey is a contact sport so i don't understand how anyone can believe size doesn't factor in a persons ability to play well at the sport

i;m guessing Dube believes if he throws enough smurfs at the wall one will stick , lol

 

[al secord]

People sometimes forget we have an ahl & echl roster to fill out.

Who are these "people?"

 

[ER89]

If it makes anyone feel better, his NCAA page has him listed at 5'9 165 lbs now.

Thanks, now I can sleep. 5'8 is unacceptable.

 

[Menzinger]

hockey is a contact sport so i don't understand how anyone can believe size doesn't factor in a persons ability to play well at the sport

i;m guessing Dube believes if he throws enough smurfs at the wall one will stick , lol

You can't tell me a single thing about a players skating ability, puck skills or hockey IQ by their height or weight. Which is why it's a useless stat. What's also flawed is the assumption that being big is the same as being physical - Freddy the Goat was huge in size and couldn't skate, pass and was soft as can be. T

The Leafs took a number of huge prospects in the '16 and '17 drafts and not one has become a full time NHLer (or the number of skating fridges Burke drafted that all busted).

SIze CAN matter but using only that to praise or critique a prospect is useless.

 

[hotpaws]

You can't tell me a single thing about a players skating ability, puck skills or hockey IQ by their height or weight. Which is why it's a useless stat. What's also flawed is the assumption that being big is the same as being physical - Freddy the Goat was huge in size and couldn't skate, pass and was soft as can be. T

The Leafs took a number of huge prospects in the '16 and '17 drafts and not one has become a full time NHLer (or the number of skating fridges Burke drafted that all busted).

SIze CAN matter but using only that to praise or critique a prospect is useless.

it's only useless to you and Dubie but hey maybe i'm wrong i'll wait for the day over half our roster is 5'10'' -a 175lbs and under so you can give me a ''i told you so'' , lol

 

[griffon1]

If it makes anyone feel better, his NCAA page has him listed at 5'9 165 lbs now.

Huge tiny, did you see the size of that signing?

Something tells me that was the exact size of one Steve Yzerman when signed.

If he turns out better than him we'll have the next Marner

 

[LeafChief]

it's only useless to you and Dubie but hey maybe i'm wrong i'll wait for the day over half our roster is 5'10'' -a 175lbs and under so you can give me a ''i told you so'' , lol

Of the 39 players that have been on the Leafs roster this year, 35 of them are 5'10 or taller.

But don't let facts get in the way of having a hissy fit online.

 

[kb]

Of the 39 players that have been on the Leafs roster this year, 35 of them are 5'10 or taller.

But don't let facts get in the way of having a hissy fit online.

I haven't seen one post with anything positive.

it's a wonderful look for this board.

 

[Fonzieleaf]

..I'll save y'all some time..

"who"
"tiny"
"Dubas"
"What about Knies"
"wtf"

(congrats to the kid)

Yep pretty much covers them all haha

 

[hotpaws]

Of the 39 players that have been on the Leafs roster this year, 35 of them are 5'10 or taller.

But don't let facts get in the way of having a hissy fit online.

so where are all the smurfs Dubas has drafted and traded for ?

are you saying they all all busts ?

 

[Jeypic]

it's only useless to you and Dubie but hey maybe i'm wrong i'll wait for the day over half our roster is 5'10'' -a 175lbs and under so you can give me a ''i told you so'' , lol

Why do you think Dubas doesn’t care about size?

 

[Jeypic]

so where are all the smurfs Dubas has drafted and traded for ?

are you saying they all all busts ?

Robertson is definitely trending to be an nhl player. Blackwell is playing well for us.

 

[LeafChief]

so where are all the smurfs Dubas has drafted and traded for ?

are you saying they all all busts ?

Do you follow Leafs prospects at all? You should be able to answer that question. Which players has he drafted with a round 1-3 pick that are busts?

 

[hotpaws]

Do you follow Leafs prospects at all? You should be able to answer that question. Which players has he drafted with a round 1-3 pick that are busts?

SDA/Stotts

but the better question is how many do you see being quality players on the Leafs

 

[LeafChief]

SDA/Stotts

but the better question is how many do you see being quality players on the Leafs

SDA is a 2000 born player playing very well on the Marlies (you'd have to watch Marlies games to know this though). Stotts is over 6'0 so I guess your theory doesn't really play. Maybe they should stay away from players that are 6'0? So basically you consider 2 out of the 8 picks busts? And one of them you're wrong about? Damn. What a disaster!

Is Sandin a bad player? What about Robertson? Pretty strong rookie season in the AHL so far. You don't like Niemela/Hirvonen/Knies? These are bad players in your estimation?

Weird stance. Your point was that you'll 'for the day over half our roster is 5'10' and I pointed out that today is that day. Again - don't let facts get in the way of having an absolute meltdown online.

 

[hotpaws]

SDA is a 2000 born player playing very well on the Marlies (you'd have to watch Marlies games to know this though). Stotts is over 6'0 so I guess your theory doesn't really play. Maybe they should stay away from players that are 6'0? So basically you consider 2 out of the 8 picks busts? And one of them you're wrong about? Damn. What a disaster!

Is Sandin a bad player? What about Robertson? Pretty strong rookie season in the AHL so far. You don't like Niemela/Hirvonen/Knies? These are bad players in your estimation?

Weird stance. Your point was that you'll wait 'for the day over half our roster is 5'10' and I pointed out that today is that day. Again - don't let facts get in the way of having an absolute meltdown online.

todays the day all our smurf prospects are playing ON the Leafs ? wtf are you talking about