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Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign goaltender Harri Sateri (claimed by the Coyotes)

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Meh, bad timing for Dubas.... basically gave teams out of the playoffs a reason to trade their backups at the deadline for a pick and replace them with a low cost back-up with potential.

Maybe better to have done this a week ago, or a week later...depending on what his plans for Mrazek was.

Then again... its hard to time the marker and maybe there were a few teams ready to make a claim.
 
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htpwn said:
Yeah, I can't see the Coyotes making many friends with this move. It is one thing if they were competing for something, but they're not. There are other places to get a goalie for the rest of the year rather than claiming a guy who believed he was signing with a contender, only to end up on a bottom three squad instead. Moves like this get you blackballed by agents.

No doubt they burned some bridges with Leafs management too. I can't imagine what the frustration must be down on Bay Street right now. The amount of players we've lost on waivers the past few years has been unprecedented. On the one hand, the system is working as intended, as the Leafs have a deep squad and waivers is meant to give NHL opportunities to those who would otherwise end up stuck in the AHL. But on the other hand, it is clearly not intended to penalize one team as much as it has us.

(Also, whenever the Athletic and other publications do those GM and 'best run' teams polls, we always seem to end up on the bottom, and yet the very people who think so lowly of us keep stealing our players. More proof that, for better or worse, everything in hockey revolves us).
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Well Bunting left them for us, so they probably don't care if we are pissed. lol
 
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BertCorbeau said:
Not just this season.

Anyway I'm sure Sateri is happy to get a NHL shot but I imagine the thought of going to Arizona instead of Toronto doesn't leave him as happy.
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From playing in flipping Siberia (I’m sure it’s lovely and all..) to Arizona.. he’s probably ok with life. But your point stands.
 
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I've never really given it much thought but the exposing a guy you sign out of Europe waivers thing is really stupid. I understand it completely if you want to send them down, but a guy signs with you to play for you, you want them to play for you but instead everyone else gets a chance to take them first because you took the initiative to sign them? Why? That's just going to have teams resisting to sign guys hoping someone else does so they can claim them. Completely screws with the guy signing where he wants to so some guys might not sign at all and just wait until the next offseason.

I don't see any logic with the rule TBH unless they want teams to not want to sign guys and want player to not sign.
 
Canada4Gold said:
I've never really given it much thought but the exposing a guy you sign out of Europe waivers thing is really stupid. I understand it completely if you want to send them down, but a guy signs with you to play for you, you want them to play for you but instead everyone else gets a chance to take them first because you took the initiative to sign them? Why? That's just going to have teams resisting to sign guys hoping someone else does so they can claim them. Completely screws with the guy signing where he wants to so some guys might not sign at all and just wait until the next offseason.

I don't see any logic with the rule TBH unless they want teams to not want to sign guys and want player to not sign.
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Personally, I think this would be better handled on a case-by-case basis, rather than a blanket "you can sign anyone not in the NHL" vs "you have to put any signed player on waivers before you can sign them". The latter screwed us here, but the former would have let Boston stash David Krejci at home and activate him now to avoid the full cap hit.

Maybe something like "players only have to pass through waivers if it's been less than 2 years since they were on an NHL roster" or something?
 
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Lightsol said:
Maybe something like "players only have to pass through waivers if it's been less than 2 years since they were on an NHL roster" or something?
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Any thing has to be better than the rules that are in place now. Sateri signed thinking he was coming to Toronto, not to a garbage team no one in the world cares about. Arizona did it out of spite, they probably never heard of him until Toronto signed him.
 
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Matthews GQ said:
Any thing has to be better than the rules that are in place now. Sateri signed thinking he was coming to Toronto, not to a garbage team no one in the world cares about. Arizona did it out of spite, they probably never heard of him until Toronto signed him.
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That stupid rule's gotta change, it is so stupid to have to clear waivers in that situation.
 
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Canada4Gold said:
I've never really given it much thought but the exposing a guy you sign out of Europe waivers thing is really stupid. I understand it completely if you want to send them down, but a guy signs with you to play for you, you want them to play for you but instead everyone else gets a chance to take them first because you took the initiative to sign them? Why? That's just going to have teams resisting to sign guys hoping someone else does so they can claim them. Completely screws with the guy signing where he wants to so some guys might not sign at all and just wait until the next offseason.

I don't see any logic with the rule TBH unless they want teams to not want to sign guys and want player to not sign.
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Yeah, it makes no sense. To your point, this rule may actually discourage teams from trying to sign these veteran Euro players, which seems to completely contradict the spirit of the waiver system that exists to promote the creation of NHL opportunities.
 
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Honestly , I don’t understand why Toronto (or Edmonton) haven’t traded for Jake Allen.

Only signed for 1 more year at 2,8m$. He has playoffs experience. I think he would of been a great fit for both teams !
 
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No, there's a reason for it, it's not new. You can't have an arms race of the best Euro players signed by, originally, the richest teams, lately the ones juggling the cap the best, it's just not fair. The rule prevents shenanigans quite properly and its not going anywhere. Nabokov is the recent example, it's the Ruotsalainen rule.

It's a little, if you'll indulge me, like hearing complaints about an automatic penalty for a puck over the glass from the D zone, "oh he didn't mean to, why would he, he knows it's a penalty". If you didn't see how it happened 17 times a game "accidentally" before it was an auto penalty you can't appreciate why the rule exists.
 
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Who knows...Maybe they claimed him and tried to get something back for him from the Leafs in a trade (Assuming the rules allow that that is)... I doubt it but nothing surprises me these days.
 
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