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Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign goaltender Harri Sateri (claimed by the Coyotes)

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Mess said:
Well the CBA put it in the rules that any player unsigned to an NHL deal after Dec 31st of current year must clear waivers first, so to prevent any shenanigans by teams hiding players in Europe and then bringing them over for the stretch run and playoffs.

So I don't know about any unwritten rules about claiming, but there are written rules in the leagues bylaws to force all teams to pass on a player through waivers for that signing team to get him on their roster.
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My question was not about the rule, it was about if these players typically get claimed or not. If they don’t then it’s really just a big F U to the rule and it’s something the teams have decided to not abide by. I don’t really want to go looking myself which is why I posed the question.
 
Mess said:
Why wouldn't a team like Florida, TB or Boston not put in a claim, simply playing defense against the Leafs knowing they might face them in the playoffs?

Unless they might want Toronto to play an untested goalie against them, and they're hoping he doesn't get claimed.

FWIW: As an amateur draft junkie Harri Satari was a player back in 2008, that was on my own personal draft board that I hoped my Leafs would take in ~4th/5th round .. San Jose took him in the 4th (106 OA).
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????? Florida and Tampa are ahead.

Boston would have to carry him on their roster. You can’t just say no.
 
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Legion34 said:
????? Florida and Tampa are ahead.

Boston would have to carry him on their roster. You can’t just say no.
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All 31 remaining teams excluding the signing team Leafs would have a right to put in a claim here. It wouldn't matter if Florida or TB are ahead of the Leafs in the standings, as Leafs don't own a waiver priority themselves in this situation as they're the waiving team. .
 
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Mess said:
All 31 remaining teams excluding the signing team Leafs would have a right to put in a claim here. It wouldn't matter if Florida or TB are ahead of the Leafs in the standings, as Leafs don't own a waiver priority themselves in this situation as they're the waiving team. .
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Well, how about we slow this down for you. If teams don't have the cap or roster space, they can't do it.

Wow
 
kb said:
I can 100% guarantee you that the Coyotes will claim him. One goalie on the roster, and nothing in the minors.

Might need to start up the Harri Sateri Tribute thread.
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Well they got Vejmelka and Mrazek
 
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kb said:
Well, how about we slow this down for you. If teams don't have the cap or roster space, they can't do it.

Wow
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Hey it’s just cold hard facts. Not done until the waivers clear, dammed if I can remember who but it’s happened to us before, sign out of Euro and claimed from under us, and it’s a possibility.

Don’t shoot the Messenger, we all hope it doesn’t happen
 
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Mess said:
Why wouldn't a team like Florida, TB or Boston not put in a claim, simply playing defense against the Leafs knowing they might face them in the playoffs?

Unless they might want Toronto to play an untested goalie against them, and they're hoping he doesn't get claimed.

FWIW: As an amateur draft junkie Harri Satari was a player back in 2008, that was on my own personal draft board that I hoped my Leafs would take in ~4th/5th round .. San Jose took him in the 4th (106 OA).
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Well the other team has to keep him on their roster. If they actually intend to use him as backup, then they will, if not, it just destroys your relationships with gms for future trades. And more importantly, it destroys your reputation and you relationahip with a sports agent and therefore all his other clients if you claim a player looking for an actual nhl opportunity to block him and just sit him on a bench denying him nhl opportunity out of spite to another org. Very bad optics
 
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Squiffy said:
Hey it’s just cold hard facts. Not done until the waivers clear, dammed if I can remember who but it’s happened to us before, sign out of Euro and claimed from under us, and it’s a possibility.

Don’t shoot the Messenger, we all hope it doesn’t happen
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I think Arizona will claim him for the record.

But that poster was prattling on about a situation that - had that poster spent 10 seconds researching instead of droning on and on about - would have realized that the specific scenario he couldn't let go (either Florida/Tampa putting in a claim to screw the Leafs) could never happen.
 
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kb said:
I think Arizona will claim him for the record.

But that poster was prattling on about a situation that - had that poster spent 10 seconds researching instead of droning on and on about - would have realized that the specific scenario he couldn't let go (either Florida/Tampa putting in a claim to screw the Leafs) could never happen.
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Even if they have cap space, to cadry third goalie and dont mind sending extra skater down, they wont do it. Just like offer sheets, its not worth it unless you have real imterest because doing it for the fu's just destroys relationships with other gms and in this case the sports agents and his clients
 
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Ya no team is gonna claim him just to not let the Leafs have him, but if someone looks up and says “hey, ya, good thought” then who knows.

The extremely most likely scenario is that he’s a Leaf tomorrow, nobody argues that.
 
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KHL or not the guy has averaged a .925 SV% over the last 4 years, had a .911 sv% on a short stint with a bad team in florida and just won an Olympic gold. 6'1 late bloomer from finland, got some world junior pedigree. I remember noodles talking about this guy years ago and said he was pretty decent. Worth a shot.
 
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Even if they have cap space, to cadry third goalie and dont mind sending extra skater down, they wont do it. Just like offer sheets, its not worth it unless you have real imterest because doing it for the fu's just destroys relationships with other gms and in this case the sports agents and his clients
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These teams are managed by sharks, no friends out there. Get over yourself.
 
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daveleaf said:
These teams are managed by sharks, no friends out there. Get over yourself.
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In peoples fantasy worlds, but in reality they have a business to run. Why are offer sheets so rare then instead of constant to force teams to driver their resign prices? Because offer sheets could be used far more often than they are just to force teams to reup salary of thsor rfas akdnscrew those teams over.

And blocking a guy looking for a legit nhl opportunity to sit him on the bench as a third goalie to say fu to anofher franchise is going to disrupt locker room, its gonna make other clients from that pissed off sports agent never sign there, and its just bad for business. Especially when blocking leafs from getting this guy isnt even really going to make or break the leafs. Theyll just move on if somebody claims him.

Now if a team actually plans to use him, then theyll claim him, but this famtasy world you have of the teams hating each other , saying f u and not have to wofk with each other ismt based in reality.
 
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oreilly4451 said:
Well the other team has to keep him on their roster. If they actually intend to use him as backup, then they will, if not, it just destroys your relationships with gms for future trades. And more importantly, it destroys your reputation and you relationahip with a sports agent and therefore all his other clients if you claim a player looking for an actual nhl opportunity to block him and just sit him on a bench denying him nhl opportunity out of spite to another org. Very bad optics
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Agreed

But what about the bad optics if you are the team that plays the Leafs and you lose the series because you didn't claim the goalie that was the difference maker perhaps.

Now I don't really think any of Leafs direct competitors will claim him, only going through a "What If" scenario that might be going through their heads as all teams are bulking up for a tough playoff run in the Atlantic Div.

A much more likely scenario would be a team that intends to trade a goalie today like say MA Fleauy or James Reimer etc would put in a claim to replace their departed goalie for the rest of the season.

Personally I don't believe he will get claimed.
 
Rompane said:
Säteri is actually really good goalie. You will be suprised.
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Hope against hope, it's tough to get worked up about a 32-year-old goalie getting claimed or succeeding for that matter.

Would have to think management knows he could get claimed, right?

The tin foil hat guy in me says, Yeah, intentionally so, so as to misdirect from the real target.
 
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