Leafs Playoffs 2020-2022

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Dekes For Days

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There still seem to be a lot of myths that persist about the Leafs in the playoffs over the past few years, so let's correct some things.

MYTH: The Leafs play badly in the playoffs.
ACTUAL:
The Leafs were the better 5v5 team in 15 out of their 19 playoff games.
The Leafs were the better overall team in 13 out of their 19 playoff games.
The Leafs were the better team in a series-winning number of games in each series.

The Leafs generated more 5v5 expected goals than their opponent in every series.
The Leafs generated more overall expected goals than their opponent in every series.
The Leafs scored more actual goals than their opponent in 2 out of the 3 series (the two most recent), and more overall.

We've struggled to break through the final barrier, certain aspects of our team (primarily goaltending) have struggled in the most critical moments, and there are obviously things we can improve (there always are), but we have played well overall throughout those series. We can be disappointed in the final outcome while still acknowledging that.

It's really abnormal to be 8-11 with no series wins despite a positive goal differential and expected goal differential throughout.
I know that these are not the victories we as fans want, but we will not be on the wrong side of conversion forever, so this is a good sign moving forward.
If we win or tie the goalie battle, we're likely to win against any opponent thrown at us.

MYTH: Our core 4 disappear in the playoffs.
ACTUAL:
Despite playing against teams that range from above average to best in the league defensively, our core 4 forwards put up a combined 57.15 xGF% in the playoffs, compared to 56.93 xGF% in the regular season. It's relatively normal for converted production to dip in the playoffs relative to regular season, but let's look at where the biggest drops are happening...
From regular season to playoffs, the core 4 forwards drop 14.99% in production.
From regular season to playoffs, the rest of the forwards drop 24.46% in production.
From regular season to playoffs, production from our defense drops 29.06%.

So in terms of where the production drops are coming from, our core 4 forwards are the least of our worries. Our biggest production drops are coming from our forward depth and defense.
Now, the big question is... why does the production drop? Which leads us to our final myth...

MYTH: Our difficulty with conversion is an us problem, not a result of the opponent's goalies playing well.
ACTUAL:
There seems to be a persistent belief that the drop in conversion is an us problem, even though we were the 5th best converting team over that timeframe in the regular season. I even understand where that belief comes from. But it's not really true. The goalies we have faced have objectively performed exceptionally over that time period, and most importantly, not just against us.

Over the past 3 playoffs, there are 38 goalies that have played 5+ playoff games.
The goalies the Leafs have faced have played in 20 series combined over that time, so the results reflect a wide variety of opponents, not just the Leafs.
Among those 38 goalies, the goalies the Leafs have faced rank 1st, 2nd, and 9th in total GSAx, 3rd, 4th, and 7th in GSAx/60, and 2nd, 5th, and 5th in SV%.
All 3 performed at a level over those 3 playoffs (with us only making up 3 of their 20 combined series) that surpass the pace of every Vezina-winner in that time.
Their combined trophy shelf holds multiple Cups, multiple Vezinas, a Smythe, Hart, Lindsay, multiple international gold medals and accolades, and an NHL playoff save record.

In our 19 playoff games between 2020-2022, the opponent's goalies saved 14.58 goals saved above expected.
If we were to take 5 games of Korpisalo's pace against all playoff opponents, 7 games of Price's pace against all playoff opponents, and 7 games of Vasilevsky's pace against all playoff opponents, they would have saved 14.58 goals saved above expected.

Our conversion drop matches EXACTLY with the average conversion drop those goalies have caused through the rest of their playoffs. We are not unique in how we've converted against these goalies. We are simply unique in the fact that we've faced a goalie like this every year in the first round.

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I know that there will be a group who won't read this, and will just default to a "we lost, nothing else matters, we suck" attitude, but hopefully those of us who like to understand what happened, why, and where we stand moving forward can find some value in this information, and we can stop perpetuating these myths and misconceptions in our discussions.

And hopefully our goaltending keeps up, so that we can either experience having the better-performing goalie for the first time in this core's existence, or even if we somehow run into this goaltending gauntlet again, match it. That's been the real missing ingredient the whole time.
 
Unfortunately fancy stats sometimes don't translate to on ice results.
Yes, sometimes the underlying stats don't result in the outcomes we want in small samples, especially when there is a massive goaltending disparity.
Sometimes even scoring more goals than your opponent doesn't result in a win, because of how things fall into place and what happens in critical moments.
That doesn't mean we need to make up fairy tales about what happened and why and how far away we are. The facts are...

-The Leafs have not played badly.
-The core 4 are the ones who maintained performance and production the most.
-The goalies we have faced have objectively played extremely well, and it really has nothing to do with us.

This team is essentially a better or equal goaltending performance away from beating any opponent thrown at us, and that's a great position to be in.
 
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Last year specifically I wasn’t even upset about the performance. They gave it their all and we were missing one of our most important forwards. All I ever want is for them to leave it all on the line, and as disappointing as last year was, you couldn’t accuse them of not giving it everything.
 
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-The team certainly doesn't play poorly in the playoffs when considering the fact that they've made a habit of taking series to the limit.

-I think the better argument for myth #2 is that the Core 4 (for the most part) disappears in Game 7s.

-Difficulty with converting is definitely a problem as it's been some time since the team was able to put up more than one goal in a Game 7. This is asking for perfection from the goalie, and even the likes of Vasilevskiy and Price have received somewhat more in support than that.
 
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That’s a lot of work to change a narrative you can’t change. Move on.
I need a deep dive into the 71 playoff loss to the Rangers. Still doesn't sit well with me.
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It legit won't matter until win. We could have the worst statistical playoff in this upcoming postseason but if we win they won't give a crap. Sometimes winning will be the only that will wipe out whatever negative connotation.

Just hope they keep this kind of play consistently till the post season. Last season they showed spurts and I was worried they would struggle because they just didn't do it day after day...this time...I am scared to say I have faith because they look dialed in and are doing it day by day.
 
-I think the better argument for myth #2 is that the Core 4 (for the most part) disappears in Game 7s.
I don't think that's particularly true either. The core 4 forwards put up a combined average 66.7 xGF% at 5v5 in the past 3 series-deciding games. They're driving play.
And while production has been low all-around, they still make up 66.7% of the team's production in those games, as opposed to their usual 42.5% in the regular season, or their usual 45.1% in the playoffs. And that's not even counting the goal that Tavares technically put past Vasilevsky.
-Difficulty with converting is definitely a problem as it's been some time since the team was able to put up more than one goal in a Game 7. This is asking for perfection from the goalie, and even the likes of Vasilevskiy and Price have received somewhat more in support than that.
Series-deciding games tend to be tighter and lower-scoring. It is true that team-wide, we've struggled converting in series-deciding games, but all the evidence points to that being some of the best-performing goalies of the past 3 years performing well at clutch times, not a unique issue with our team or core. We've outshot our opponents 95-70 over the past 3 series-deciding games, and generated more expected goals. But our opposing goalies have put up +5.37 GSAx in those 3 games, while we've gotten below league average goaltending.

It's worth noting that, not even counting the one that was disallowed, we put as many pucks past Vasilevsky in our series deciding game as their last 6 opponents combined.

Fun fact: In that same timeframe, while winning series and cups...
Kucherov went through a stretch where he produced in only 1 of 6 series-deciding games.
Stamkos went through a stretch where he didn't produce in 5 straight series-deciding games.
Point went through a stretch where he didn't produce in 3 straight series-deciding games.
Are they also unclutch losers? Or maybe there's more to it than that.
 
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It legit won't matter until win.
I know that for many people it won't. And I want the "actual wins" as much as anybody. But there are a lot of narratives that form and get perpetuated when teams lose in the playoffs, and it's important to understand what actually happened and why - not because we're okay with the losses, but so that we don't take counterproductive actions that take us further away from winning.

And quite frankly, it's really sad to see fans of failing franchises suffer, but in some ways, it's even sadder to see fans of an actual good team lose all hope and not be able to enjoy the ride because they've bought into some myths about our past playoff losses that aren't even true. Hopefully this helps shine a light.

There are a lot of reasons to be excited about the Leaf's chances this year.
 
Like the great Josh Donaldson says “This is the get it done league”. This isn’t a computer simulation, well we all are in one, but the game is won on the ice, not a Chromebook
Said the man who's never got it done......
 
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I don't think that's particularly true either. The core 4 forwards put up a combined average 66.7 xGF% at 5v5 in the past 3 series-deciding games. They're driving play.
And while production has been low all-around, they still make up 66.7% of the team's production in those games, as opposed to their usual 42.5% in the regular season, or their usual 45.1% in the playoffs. And that's not even counting the goal that Tavares technically put past Vasilevsky.

Series-deciding games tend to be tighter and lower-scoring. It is true that team-wide, we've struggled converting in series-deciding games, but all the evidence points to that being some of the best-performing goalies of the past 3 years performing well at clutch times, not a unique issue with our team or core. We've outshot our opponents 95-70 over the past 3 series-deciding games, and generated more expected goals. But our opposing goalies have put up +5.37 GSAx in those 3 games, while we've gotten below league average goaltending.

It's worth noting that, not even counting the one that was disallowed, we put as many pucks past Vasilevsky in our series deciding game as their last 6 opponents combined.

Fun fact: In that same timeframe, while winning series and cups...
Kucherov went through a stretch where he produced in only 1 of 6 series-deciding games.
Stamkos went through a stretch where he didn't produce in 5 straight series-deciding games.
Point went through a stretch where he didn't produce in 3 straight series-deciding games.
Are they also unclutch losers? Or maybe there's more to it than that.
I should have written "disappears on the scoresheet" (a.k.a, the be-all and end-all). Yes, it's fair to state that our opponents aren't exactly lighting the lamp either in comparison. Fact remains that they are winning because they are scoring more goals (close as the margins have generally been).
I think it's also fair to point out that our homegrown trio is younger than Tampa's equivalent of Kucherov, Stamkos and Point. Hopefully that will mean the best is yet to come. Good post.
 
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Said the man who's never got it done......
Donaldson plays a sport that 1 player has even less of an impact the outcome than the NHL. He's an MVP and his Jays teams went to the finals of their league in consecutive years, the Leafs never did that.
 
Unfortunately fancy stats sometimes don't translate to on ice results.
On ice results are what stats are based on, so I really don't get this argument. Do you think it's just random numbers pulled out of thin air or something? It is more accurate to say that outplaying/outchancing/outshooting the other team doesn't always translate to winning
 

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