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GDT: Leafs @ Panthers

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kb said:
I did notice them making gaffs that led directly to 2 goals against in a 6-2 win if that's what you mean.

Muzzin in, Boosh out. Care to try again?
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I mean if we go by this logic then why would we play Muzzin and Holl in our lineup ever? Why did we defend Gardiner so much?
 
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X66 said:
I agree.

Also, there's enough games to try out the other combinations as well.

Only issue is that I've really liked Brodie-Holl as a pairing.
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To be fair, it's hard not to like a pair Brodie goes on. Examples:
Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Brodie
Giordano-Brodie
Brodie-Holl
Brodie-Liljegren
Brodie-Lyubushkin

Brodie instantly makes whatever pairing he's a part of, or could potentially be a part of, better. He does all the little things well back there.
 
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HogTown06 said:
I'm a little shocked by the Panthers GDT... So used to see other fanbases belittling the Leafs, instead they are praising the team and and giving them a lot of credit. Quite the group of gentlemen over in South Florida.
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Oh how a playoff series would quickly change that...lol
 
tmlfan98 said:
The sentiment that Lyubushkin should be the one sitting is IMO misguided. The Rielly-Lyubushkin pairing so far has been the best pairing Rielly has been on by far in terms of defense from the high danger areas.

The closest the Leafs had come previously to the Rielly pairing not being a complete mess in the high danger areas was the infamous Rielly-Hainsey pairing, which Babs basically never split up once they were put together (13 5v5 mins per game over 2 seasons, 0.23 HDGA/60 Rel, -0.7 HDGF% Rel, with a 45% Offensive zone start %).

Since then, every pair Rielly has been on has either had to be heavily sheltered or when they have seen usage similar to Rielly-Hainsey, have been caved in:

Rielly-Ceci: 10 5v5 mins per game, 0.24 HDGA/60 Rel, -13.1 HDGF% Rel, with a 51.7% Offensive zone start %
Rielly-Barrie: 6 5v5 mins per game, -0.54 HDGA/60 Rel, +16.9 HDGF% Rel, with a 62.4% Offensive zone start % (heavily sheltered)
Rielly-Brodie: 11 5v5 mins per game, 0.19 HDGA/60 Rel, -9.48 HDGF% Rel, with a 54% Offensive zone start % (North Division numbers not included)

Since Muzzin got hurt on Feb 22nd the Leafs split up Rielly and Brodie. Initially they tried out Rielly-Liljegren, which was an absolutely horrendous pair at defending in the high danger areas (5 mins per game at 5v5, 2.64 HDGA/60 Rel, +1.46 HDGF% Rel, with a 57% Offensive zone start %)

Then Keefe finally tried out Rielly-Lyubushkin, and since then they have been great defensively in the high danger areas (7 mins per game at 5v5, -0.43 HDGA/60 Rel, -7.7 HDGF%, with a only a 37% Offensive zone start %). This is basically a first for any Rielly pairing other than Rielly-Barrie in extremely sheltered usage, meanwhile the Rielly-Lyubushkin pair gets opposite usage in terms of zone starts.
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Not to mention that Reilly has 9 points in the last fives games with the Bear and is a +6, not one game has he been a minus during this span, all wins.

I have nothing against the young D they have shown maturity and at times even a physical streak. It takes time to be battle ready though. I know players like Lybushkin, Holl and Muzzin don't collect style points from some fans. I guarantee the Leaf goalies appreciate what they bring and opposition forwards would prefer a gentler night.

Keefe will manage the lineup as he sees makes sense. Preferably for success in the post season. We all hope he succeeds and so should any player not in the lineup on any given night. I don't know who be is rolling with, but it's a good problem to have. The team has been noticeably more physical since Lybushkin arrived.

That's my take.
 
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kevsh said:
I don't see a division win as likely.
The Leafs will cool off at some point and 7 points is a big gap to make up in 13 games.

I think holding off the Bruins/Lightning for 2nd should be the priority and hopefully, if they get that locked up with a few games remaining they can rest anyone with nagging injuries or just needs a rest (which I'd suggest they do even if their spot isn't locked up - no use risking an injury to a key player for home ice advantage, which isn't always much of an advantage.)
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Getting rest for those who need it is much more important than locking up 2nd IMO.
 
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tmlfan98 said:
I'm hoping Keefe runs

Rielly-Lyubushkin
Muzzin-Brodie
Gio-Liljegren
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I dig this as well.
I like the fact that Lyb usually has that " clear the crease "mode/protect the net..ect... when in our end, and since we are throwing in Kaalgren (who has played noble for such a young gun) This also would be the line -up of D men I would go with as well.

I am getting more comfortable with seeing us on the p.k. as we do create some odd man chances but I love it when we get that 4 on 4 going too and Bunting sure knows how to take a draw and force an opponent to mosey on over to the penalty box lol.

Guess what I'm saying is our team really has stepped up in many categories so we shouldn't be afraid of nopony! ;) We are the competition other teams use to see where they are at as well. GO TEAM GO!!
 
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zeke said:
Note that Boosh is only a +1 in those 5gms. So Mo's pluses aren't coming with the bear.
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I see. So where have Lybushkins minuses come with? I'm too lazy to look it up, hah.

He has been eating up big minutes. How hard these minutes have been is important to note.
 
Thank god if he made the decision to sit Boosh over Liljegren.

The lineups I wanted:

Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Giordano - Liljegren

getting what I asked. You really can't slot Lybushkin into any of the pairings other than Rielly. He needs a puck moving dman beside him which Muzzin/Gio are not and it's just ridiculous to expect Boosh to play top pairing come playoffs. He's a good physical d-man, but you gotta expect him to play similar to Roman Polak style game.

Could see him being a good pairing for Sandin for example.
 
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Muzzin-Boosh is slow as hell, no way they should run that

Rielly-Brodie, Muzzin-Holl and Gio-Liljegren are all pairs that have had periods of sustained success.

Muzzin-Holl won't have to take all the tough matchups now and should hopefully bounce back closer to last years performance.
 
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WayneTrain said:
To be fair, it's hard not to like a pair Brodie goes on. Examples:
Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Brodie
Giordano-Brodie
Brodie-Holl
Brodie-Liljegren
Brodie-Lyubushkin

Brodie instantly makes whatever pairing he's a part of, or could potentially be a part of, better. He does all the little things well back there.
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He’s absolutely been an unsung hero and anchor since joining the leafs.
 
Fair enough to take Boosh out. He will serve his purpose in a heavier playoff matchup down the road.

For now, these pairings have chemistry and should be the first choice.
 
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TheDoldrums said:
Rielly-Brodie, Muzzin-Holl and Gio-Liljegren are all pairs that have had periods of sustained success.
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That looks like three pairings you can roll without even worrying about matchups or zone starts.

Hell you could roll all three on the PK no problem too.
 
Please don't sit Liljegren or put Muzzin/Holl back together.

Either:

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Liljegren
Gio-Holl

or

Rielly-Brodie
Gio-Liljegren
Muzzin-Boosh
 
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