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fahad203 said:
For his sake though he should retire. 5 concussoins before this one
I know it's easy for me to say. Maybe get a coaching job in Czech if he wants to stay in the game
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yup at this point, its quality of life after your career, why risk it imo
 
Stephen said:
Feels like the Leafs could have stickhandled around that if they weren't so gung ho on keeping Andreas Johnsson, Kasperi Kapanen and signing them to those $3 million + deals. Some combination of letting Marleau's deal run out and pro-actively moving on some of those younger guys for futures and the asset management could have looked different. But obviously that is with hindsight.
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I’m sure there were many different ways to manage it.
Sometimes it’s just easier to blame others than to face the truth.
 
fahad203 said:
A line just doesn't figure out. That's coaches job to figure things out

Sometimes a line catches fire, builds great chemistry, then other teams catch up to it. It's on the coach to figure things out who works with who. Players games changes, their approach changes, and the league changes

Just because a line has worked in the past doesn't mean it will have the same effect

Keefe needs to seperate Nylander and Tavares. Maybe try Matthews and Tavares with Bunting for a while. Have kerfoot on the second line with Marner and Nylander
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That line's play style doesn't mesh.

Tavares worked well with Marner in those two games because the pacing was a little more comfortable, and Marner's stop up, delay movement allowed Tavares to catch up and set up better.

Nylander and Kerfoot want to race up the ice and track meet style. But they're also separated from each other on opposite wings with a slow center unable to support.
 
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fahad203 said:
For his sake though he should retire. 5 concussoins before this one
I know it's easy for me to say. Maybe get a coaching job in Czech if he wants to stay in the game
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You'd hate to see someone so young, have to retire. At this point though, I agree. Or at the very least, have him shut it down for the rest of the season. Either way it's a shame. He's such a fun player to watch.
 
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fahad203 said:
A line just doesn't figure out. That's coaches job to figure things out

Sometimes a line catches fire, builds great chemistry, then other teams catch up to it. It's on the coach to figure things out who works with who. Players games changes, their approach changes, and the league changes

Just because a line has worked in the past doesn't mean it will have the same effect

Keefe needs to seperate Nylander and Tavares. Maybe try Matthews and Tavares with Bunting for a while. Have kerfoot on the second line with Marner and Nylander
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He has separated Nylander and Taveres, its worse every time. I don't know how you break up the top line, its an absolute beast. Taveres and Nylander need a Bunting on the line... if anything I'd try Bunting on the second and move whoever the hell in to the top line, it might not matter a ton with Marner and Mattews Marnering and Matthewing.
 
ACC1224 said:
I’m sure there were many different ways to manage it.
Sometimes it’s just easier to blame others than to face the truth.
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Dubas is a trigger happy GM who has made a lot of moves, has shown genuine creativity and won and lost of some big bets along the way.

Problem is I don't think this Leafs team needed to win big bets to get to serious contender status. Just needed a more gradual stewardship and judicious building because they started off with such a uniquely talented core group.

All is not lost by a long shot, but I think a cap restructuring in the offseason with their middle class, more smart UFA buys and repairing the cupboard is necessarily to get that upward momentum back in a serious way. Right now we're good but are vulnerable in a few different play styles.
 
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Ottawa wouldn’t trade Brady, but do you think Calgary could be tempted to part with Matthew?

Nylander for Tkachuk. No idea what other pieces would need to be involved to make a deal work, but M.K is EXACTLY the type of player the Leafs need, imo.
 
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Stephen said:
Dubas is a trigger happy GM who has made a lot of moves, has shown genuine creativity and won and lost of some big bets along the way.

Problem is I don't think this Leafs team needed to win big bets to get to serious contender status. Just needed a more gradual stewardship and judicious building because they started off with such a uniquely talented core group.

All is not lost by a long shot, but I think a cap restructuring in the offseason with their middle class, more smart UFA buys and repairing the cupboard is necessarily to get that upward momentum back in a serious way. Right now we're good but are vulnerable in a few different play styles.
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Matthews has 2 years after this year. First off all F U Dubas not locking him for 8 years

There's no offseason. Our offseason was last year when we were beaten in first round. Compare to lot of teams, our offseason was longer
He has plenty of times

Every move we make, we should be making it for playoffs and that means now. We had a lot off seasons to work on things
 
egd27 said:
You're still trying to argue that Dubas did not walk into a new GM's dream? Give it up please, or name 3 other GM's that took over a 100+ point team in the entire history of the NHL?
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Of course it was a better situation than most, most of the time guys are walking into tire fires thus the regime change.
It’s just disingenuous to suggest he was some sort of benefactor of an abundance of ELC talent and lots of depth. The guys his old boss had for $3m combined for multiple seasons he had to commit 30 to. Not to mention the $11m in boat anchors on the left wing & 2nd pair RD he was saddled with
 
Nylanderthal said:
Of course it was a better situation than most, most of the time guys are walking into tire fires thus the regime change.
It’s just disingenuous to suggest he was some sort of benefactor of an abundance of ELC talent and lots of depth. The guys his old boss had for $3m combined for multiple seasons he had to commit 30 to. Not to mention the $11m in boat anchors on the left wing & 2nd pair RD he was saddled with
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The Leafs franchise picture was nothing but blue skies June 2018 when Dubas inherited the job. Things only got crowded cause he made a big splash that suddenly required a lot of cap reshuffling. In a typical cap structure contracts like Marleau and Zaitsev aren’t ideal but not really these big franchise crippling road blocks.
 
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BallardEra said:
Top 8 in the East is getting tight. Leafs can find themselves 1 point out of 8th place by the time they get to play again.
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Maybe I am missing something? How is that possible? Columbus is 16 points behind us?

...ah sorry, you mean one point ahead of 8th place. Gotchya... the "1 point out" made me assume on the outside looking in.

I am not sure it matters where we finish unless we are 1st in our division... all the first round opponents are going to be tough and the Leafs will more-than-likely be the underdog.
 
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Peace Frog said:
Ottawa wouldn’t trade Brady, but do you think Calgary could be tempted to part with Matthew?

Nylander for Tkachuk. No idea what other pieces would need to be involved to make a deal work, but M.K is EXACTLY the type of player the Leafs need, imo.
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No way the Flames would take Nylander for Tkachuk.
It would be fun to see Sutters facial expressions watching Willy though.
 
Big fan of marners new grit game. Maybe just save it for the playoffs though. Stay fresh. Seeing he's capable of it is good enough for now.
 
Nylander is frustrating to watch at times, but he was our best forward in the playoffs last year. I'm not ready to give up on him yet.
 
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Peace Frog said:
Believe me, this is not a hot take. Nylander is very skilled, but especially in this trade deadline, can you imagine what we could get for him? I’ve never liked his soft, lack of compete level to his game.

Moving Nylander is not the type of trade you make at the deadline, unfortunately, but I really think we could address some real serious needs by trading him.

One way or another, we desperately need to bring in skilled players that bring physicality and intensity. You absolutely need that to be successful in the playoffs.
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kyle should just grow a pair of balls, and trade the captain who took all the heat to come here. Lou lam style
 
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