Post-Game Talk: Leafs Lose in Game 7. Again.

[BTP]

The puck can be shot into a net 1000 times but if the goal isn't deemed legal who cares?

One team scored 2 goals and the other scored 1.

One team is moving on and the other is stuck wondering how did we lose again?

You can keep pretending the leafs scored 2 goals until we lose in game 7 next year but it won't change reality

Are you blind? Both teams scored 2 goals, 1 was disallowed. That’s a fact.

It was an even game that deserved OT

 

[JKG33]

Lol. Swagger.

Leafs have an amazing team featuring some of the best players in the world - including arguably the best.

I'm not really interested in a discussion where you wildly exaggerate every other team and downplay the quality of the Leafs and their players. I merely noted a fact that was relevant about teams winning after not winning a round previously. It has happened. Assuming we don't make stupid, counter-productive moves, we have just as good a chance at the cup next year as anybody, regardless of being robbed of this ECF-quality series win.

Call it whatever you want. Anyone that knows hockey could see that team had the "it" factor and was going to steamroll teams in the playoffs. For what it's worth I see something similar with Florida this year. When the Leafs have this swagger then you might have a point.

Arguably the best player in the world??? The best player in the world put his sorry ass Oilers teammates on his back and dominated that series. Swap Matthews for McDavid and the Leafs are a signicantly better team and the Oilers miss playoffs.

"Robbed of this ECF quality win" there's so much wrong with that statement I don't even know where to begin

 

[Mess]

Except they quite literally did both score 2 goals.

Unfortunately, that wasn't the result the NHL wanted.

NHL doesn't count illegal goals scored, on delayed penalty calls for interference on a clear pick play, where the Refs arm was up well before the goal was scored.



Watch the Refs arm go up at centre ice well before Tavares even shoots the puck, and notice nobody on the Leafs bench including Keefe nor Tavares argues the call. You can even hear the whistle go prior.

Pretending it counts is all you, and nobody else.

 

[hamzarocks]

Nope, both teams scored 2 goals. You should check out the replay instead of just the box score.

It's very obvious why we lost. Because the refs decided to manufacture their desired result. Twice.

Nope one team scored 2 goals and the other scored 1. You should watch the game without your homer glasses on

The leafs lost because the offense no showed in the 3rd period of game 6 and all of game 7.

The refs were calling crap calls for both teams. Leafs had 4 PPs in game 7 and wasted them.

Your posting fully with the intention to will the leafs as the series winner and make a false reality. The leafs lost again and it wasn't on the refs at least not in game 7. The leafs offense is a disgrace in elimination games

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

After sleeping on it, the person I'm most annoyed at is Keefe. A lot of his messaging this year came across as extremely complacent, and that's just the wrong mindset for a team that should be desperate

 

[Dekes For Days]

NHL doesn't count illegal goals scored

That's not true. They count illegal goals all the time, according to their rulebook.

What they often don't do is refuse to count legal goals, but unfortunately, that's what happened in this one.

 

[hamzarocks]

Are you blind? Both teams scored 2 goals, 1 was disallowed. That’s a fact.

It was an even game that deserved OT

No both teams didn't score two goals. Leafs goal was not a legal goal as the refs called holl for interference

Stop being a homer and try and be objective

 

[stealth1]

That's not true. They count illegal goals all the time, according to their rulebook.

What they often don't do is refuse to count legal goals, but unfortunately, that's what happened in this one.

Whats the point of "manufacturing" a win for Tampa? If your answer is they want American teams winning then the Oilers wouldn't have won last night.

 

[LightningStorm]

Bolts fan coming in peace.

I know how tough this is, especially coming on the heels of the rest of your R1 exits for this core, but I don't think this is the same as the previous 2 exits. You guys fought hard all series against the B2B champs, just fell short by a goal in game 7, and would've won it in 6 had Vasy not been hot in OT.

This wasn't the Jackets or Habs series where I thought you guys folded and lost to an inferior team as a result. No way you reach 7 against the Bolts by folding. You fought hard all series, just fell a goal short in the end against the B2B champs. Blowing up the team would've been a lot more understandable after last season than this one.

 

[The Masters]

After sleeping on it, the person I'm most annoyed at is Keefe. A lot of his messaging this year came across as extremely complacent, and that's just the wrong mindset for a team that should be desperate

thought so too. didnt prepare guys enough for game 7. and ggame 4 was a joke. mix that in with columbus/tortz and mtl/duscharme, he got out coached plenty times in playoffs. not good enough. id move him.

 

[Canadian Finn]

so a portion of the fanbase believes in phantom goals now too? do the phantom stats track these phantom goals? Zeke got a spreadsheet for that?

I see where we are at these days.

 

[Brad C]

A loss is a loss no matter how you look at it.

But this year was a whole lot better effort than
pervios years

Scoring gets real hard in play offs.if your a scorer and not produving,you best be able to do something eles like Matthews out there throwing his body around and still a thread to score.

Not blaming Campbell but maybe if they pay a little less for offence and more on goaltending.

Rielly played great but what if they had Pronger type player to play with him maybe it dosn't go seven..Bush did good but he is not a first pairing dman

Third period in game 7 leafs could hardly get in the tampa zone and if they did it was to the outside and puck was quickly recovered and out of the zone..

Defenceman wins

Tampas 3rd and 4th line where better than the leafs.

 

[FlyingLeafus]

Well that was fun, same time next year everyone?

 

[Canadian Finn]

Tampas 3rd and 4th line where better than the leafs.

Tough to ice strong 3rd and 4th lines when the first two lines make up all the salary cap.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

NHL doesn't count illegal goals scored, on delayed penalty calls for interference on a clear pick play, where the Refs arm was up well before the goal was scored.



Watch the Refs arm go up at centre ice well before Tavares even shoots the puck, and notice nobody on the Leafs bench including Tavares argues the call. You can even hear the whistle go prior.

Pretending it counts is all you, and nobody else.

I disagree with Dekes saying it should "count as a goal" (wtf?).

But, by the books, was that actually a penalty?

It's full out warfare in front of the net and people without the puck with are crashing into each other and smashing the shit out of each other. Everytime they crash into each other it's supposed to be called as interference?

 

[Dekes For Days]

Call it whatever you want. Anyone that knows hockey could see that team had the "it" factor and was going to steamroll teams in the playoffs. For what it's worth I see something similar with Florida this year. When the Leafs have this swagger then you might have a point.

There's no "swagger" difference between LA, Florida, and the Leafs. That you seeing what you want to see. The Leafs have as good a chance as any next year, assuming we don't make stupid moves as a reaction to this result.

Arguably the best player in the world???

Yep. There are arguments for one or two others based on an expanded sample, but right up there at worst.

 

[Canadian Finn]

I disagree with Dekes saying it should "count as a goal" (wtf?).

But, by the books, was that actually a penalty?

It's full out warfare in front of the net and people without the puck with are crashing into each other and smashing the shit out of each other. Everytime they crash into each other it's supposed to be called as interference?

Dekes is having a rough time. I'd say cut him some slack.

Between that miscall and the one last game to put us down by 2, I truly feel another year of the Leafs being jobbed.

 

[hamzarocks]

There's no "swagger" difference between LA, Florida, and the Leafs. That you seeing what you want to see. The Leafs have as good a chance as any next year, assuming we don't make stupid moves as a reaction to this result.

Yep. There are argument for one or two others based on an expanded sample, but right up there at worst.

No argument at all for Matthews to be near 97 if you look beyond the 2022 regular season

McDavid was dominating the league at levels Matthews didn't show until this or maybe last year. He's been doing it since his sophomore year.

He's in a tier of his own

 

[Byron Bitz]

NHL doesn't count illegal goals scored, on delayed penalty calls for interference on a clear pick play, where the Refs arm was up well before the goal was scored.



Watch the Refs arm go up at centre ice well before Tavares even shoots the puck, and notice nobody on the Leafs bench including Tavares argues the call. You can even hear the whistle go prior.

Pretending it counts is all you, and nobody else.

And that is just a brutal call by the ref, Holl didn’t even throw his shoulder into it, your allowed to get in a players way.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Dekes is having a rough time. I'd say cut him some slack.

Between that miscall and the one last game to put us down by 2, I truly feel another year of the Leafs being jobbed.

How is a defensman supposed to do their job if "getting in the way" of opposing players is "interference"?

 

[Canadian Finn]

How is a defensman supposed to do their job if "getting in the way" of opposing players is "interference"?

It was absolutely brutal.

The least our p***y gutless coach and GM could do is call that shit out....but in the world of rainbows and unicorns that kind of discord isn't acceptable.

 

[Zur En Arrh]

The main board is extra extra insufferable today. Between the leafs fans either trading our core for nothing or trying to get rid of holl/kerfott for 1.dmen. As well as the blatant trolling (and never punished) of our fan base. It's like watching qanon turds arguing with flat earthers.

 

[JKG33]

There's no "swagger" difference between LA, Florida, and the Leafs. That you seeing what you want to see. The Leafs have as good a chance as any next year, assuming we don't make stupid moves as a reaction to this result.

Yep. There are arguments for one or two others based on an expanded sample, but right up there at worst.

If you don't see the difference you need to take off the blue and white goggles, which are visibly showing in your next point point.

McDavid is the best player. Everyone else is fighting for 2nd

 

[stealth1]

It was absolutely brutal.

The least our p***y gutless coach and GM could do is call that shit out....but in the world of rainbows and unicorns that kind of discord isn't acceptable.

Bad call or not I think blaming the refs is the cheap way out. They didn't lose cause of it, they tied the game after that. The lack of adjustments on the PP did them in.

 

[Canadian Finn]

Bad call or not I think blaming the refs is the cheap way out. They didn't lose cause of it, they tied the game after that. The lack of adjustments on the PP did them in.

it's not any way out.

we are already "out".

calling out the ridiculous calls doesn't make us in, or out.

but what it would be doing is showing our coach/GM have some form of semblance of balls.