Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose- due for one of these but Jack man

[Nylanderthal]

We put up 50 shots, dominate the whole game; Campbell puts in his worst performance of the year; they throw a couple hits; we lose our first game in weeks; "ohhh no the Leafs are in trouble come playoff time!" ... some people are wild man

This needs to be stickied in this thread

 

[Aashir]

True, absolutely Campbell was bad, but the saves he did make were far more difficult than anything Markstrom had to do tonight.

Campbell alone doesn't turn this into a win.

Incorrect. So incorrect it makes my head hurt

Campbell made maybe 1 good save the entire game.

markstrom made minimum 8

 

[ToneDog]

Thankfully Campbell wasn't signed at his peak.

They tried but Soup bet on himself. Losing now but we are done if he loses that bet playoff time.

 

[Stonehands1990]

This needs to be stickied in this thread

 

[Smif]

For the quality of defense we gave Campbell for much of that game, a .920 was not unreasonable.

An .800 is simply unacceptable based on how we played in front of him.

I saw the opposite of quality defense tonight.

 

[IrishInOntario]

If we go out early again this year I hope our new gm asks jt and muzzin to waive, they are really bad lately.

For this team to go anywhere they need 4 significant roster changes...

1. A goalie that is reliably top 10 in the league, for an entire season and carries that play into the playoffs.

2. An upgrade for Jake Muzzin. You can't pay him 5.6 million for what he's giving you.

3. Justin Holl is just not good. He does not play in a true Cup contenders top 4. I don't can't how much of a discount he's on.

4. The 3rd line needs a scoring threat at center, that can move Kampf to the 4th line, where he can still be used in defensive matchups. We just need more out of that 3rd line.

 

[Stonehands1990]

It really doesn’t

 

[Dave92]

Campbell and Holl showing why they spent so much time in the AHL. And still not sold on so much money being invested in soft forwards come playoff time.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

They tried but Soup bet on himself. Losing now but we are done if he loses that bet playoff time.

Thats a bet he lost big time.

 

[LastOne2100]

Incorrect. So incorrect it makes my head hurt

Campbell made maybe 1 good save the entire game.

markstrom made minimum 8

Other than the Kerfoot tip, which wasn't really all that well placed, I honestly can't think of one hard save Markstrom had to make.

Campbell had to stop breakaways, multiple odd man rushes, etc.

Did we have ONE odd man rush this game?

 

[PromisedLand]

didnt watch the game but just curious whether campbell's good numbers were just hot streak or is this just cold streak

 

[Maplebeasts]

Neither team reached 2 expected goals tonight. Jack just let in 5, 4 of which were bad goals.

 

[Nylanderthal]

This is a much bigger over-reaction than people who showed concern over this loss.

Campbell has been bad for a significant sample now. Explain how we're not in trouble come playoff time if he doesn't get decent?

Mrazek has been quite good after getting his feet under him. He’s also won playoff rounds before.

 

[Antropovsky]

I didn't watch the full game, but when I do I always leave feeling the leafs chances they give up are better than the ones the opposing team gives up. Sure the Leafs outshot Calgary, but leafs were giving up wide open odd man rushes and players were allowed to walk in on Jack all alone. Leafs on the other hand get wild fury of chances but it seems there is always a plethora of players crowding the net when it happens. Seems like the same problem the leafs always have since Keefe took over. When a team plays physical and protects their net...it seems the leafs begin to break down and let tons of odd man rushes through. I could be wrong though, I don't watch as much as I used too.

 

[Smif]

In the offseason the 2nd pair, goaltending and 2 c need revamping.

2 c is a non starter. Defense and goaltending and you're looking at a Nylander out to upgrade those.

 

[Nylanderthal]

didnt watch the game but just curious whether campbell's good numbers were just hot streak or is this just cold streak

He was ass

 

[Torontonian]

People need to stop equating shot count with playing well. Our shots were primarily crap, low danger chances.

Weak perimeter shots with no traffic will never win us games, especially in the playoffs.

Campbell was bad, but what he faced was much more difficult than anything Markstrom had to do tonight.

Toronto Maple Leafs @ Calgary Flames, 2022-02-10

The high danger chances were 8 to 7 for the maple leafs and the scoring chances were 23 to 16 for the Maple Leafs. Again, I ask what game you were watching.

The sole difference in this game is Campbell had a .800 save percentage and got beat shortside twice and got beat clean from a slapshot from the point.

 

[Mr_Fun]

We weren't really that bad; goaltending was the key difference for both teams. I'll take six wins in a row followed by a mediocre loss all day long.

 

[Nylanderthal]

They tried but Soup bet on himself. Losing now but we are done if he loses that bet playoff time.

Not like mrazek hasn’t won playoff series before or anything…..

 

[cup67]

Simple leafs lose because of Campbell. Leafs played 2 forward short 10, and still got 48 shots . If Campbell doesn’t get his game back trade him .

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

2 c is a non starter. Defense and goaltending and you're looking at a Nylander out to upgrade those.

Then the team wins nothing.

 

[Brown Dog]

This one's on Jack, obviously. Couple things bounce a bit differently and Leafs win. No help from the officials, but what else is new?
On to Vancouver.

 

[cup67]

True, absolutely Campbell was bad, but the saves he did make were far more difficult than anything Markstrom had to do tonight.

Might we have rallied without that third backbreaker that was a puck any NHL goaltender would save? Maybe.

But saying this game was good enough and blaming Campbell only is a cop out.

Stop it , 48 shots with 10 forwards. Campbell was off . He needs to sign or trade him

 

[LastOne2100]

Toronto Maple Leafs @ Calgary Flames, 2022-02-10

The high danger chances were 8 to 7 for the maples and the scoring chances were 23 to 16 for the Maple Leafs. Again, I ask what game you were watching.

The sole difference in this game is Campbell had a .800 save percentage and got beat shortside twice and got beat clean from a slapshot from the point.

I mean sure, on paper the "high danger" chances were pretty even, but I can't remember a single save that Markstrom made that was particularly impressive.

We just weren't that dangerous, neither was Calgary, and Campbell was bad.

But to be a contender, you need to be BETTER than other teams. If you are proud of us being as good as them, but with worse goaltending, I hate to break it to you - that's BAD.

 

[pcruz]

Matthews and Marner absolutely dominated tonight.
It's a travesty they didn't get a couple goals each and the Leafs lost.

It's also a joke the clear hit on the head wasn't called.
The league has a major credibility problem with its on ice officials, and another one with the off-ice officials.

Just a joke all around.

Zadorov wanted to do little more than hurt people tonight and succeeded at least once.

Also, goaltending was good and suspect at the same time. Not sure what to make of the defensive lapses at times, but also the poor goals.