The upcoming win vs the habs will make up for this one. I won't get to watch it sadly enough, work.
Post-Game Talk: Leafs Lose 2-1 ... Kind of... In a shootout (Yes those are still a thing)
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I'm probably crazy but I think if they hadn't traded Kessel, they would have had a fighting chance at the playoffs.
Loosie
The Eternal Optimist
While I know it was a group decision and Babcock likely had some input on trading Kessel, I still would have like to see what Babcock could have done with him.
Possible a run at the playoffs, ultimately failing, getting the 14th overall pick and continuing the path of mediocrity. No thanks.
Not a bad effort. Feels like I've said that 100 times already this season.
I wonder what the advanced stats say about shootout moves. Surely there's a better way than just allowing the players to do as they want out there. Is a shot more effective? Is a deke more effective? What about speed and angle of approach? The Leafs have a whole team making big money to run numbers for the club. I'm a little surprised nobody's thought of looking at the shootout.
I wonder what the advanced stats say about shootout moves. Surely there's a better way than just allowing the players to do as they want out there. Is a shot more effective? Is a deke more effective? What about speed and angle of approach? The Leafs have a whole team making big money to run numbers for the club. I'm a little surprised nobody's thought of looking at the shootout.
Kessel was past the age of fixing. He was locked into an 8M contract...if you told him to do what Babcock demands he would just throw a hissy fit, demand a trade and sink his value.
21 year old Kessel off his ELC could have been taught...but he didn't want to listen to Julien so I doubt he would suddenly have changed for Babcock. He is set in his ways.
Really like Babcock but what's with Spaling on the 3on3? Even Winnik for that matter. In OT you have to go for the extra point your not defending it!!
p.l.f.
use the force
Kessel plays the way Kessel wants to play, I've seen him in Pitty, he looks the exact same as he always has.
he fits a team that is already built like pitty, he doesnt fit us at all and frankly I dont ever want a player like him personally, I want someone that actually shows heart on both ends of the ice in the top 6.
If you think all opinions on this forum are backed up from credible sources your naive.
All of the most efficient players in the shootout are shooters, and they seem to have the same technique from what I see. Parenteau does pretty much exactly what Bozak does and those two are excellent in shootouts.
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I'd agree with you if he phrased them as facts but he clearly didn't. To ask for credible sources to back up an opinion you don't agree with is lame IMO.
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Surprised to see Hunwick all the way up to 27 and a half minutes with Rielly close behind with 25 minutes. Phaneuf with 17.5 minutes but I'm sure that's to do with having only one powerplay.
Another low scoring game, the inconsistent skill level is really showing. Not surprising though looking at the current roster.
Another low scoring game, the inconsistent skill level is really showing. Not surprising though looking at the current roster.
Leave them. They are fascinated with the point totals Kessel put up but turn a blind eye to every single time he was on the ice for a goal against.
It is a fact that Kessel did not see eye to eye with Julien. Guess what? Julien was right in the end and how they needed to play because they not only won the Cup once, they were darn close to winning another one.
If Kessel was not willing to change the way he plays on a rising team like the Bruins (at the time he was traded) there is no chance in hell he was going to suddenly change the way he has played for a decade for a rebuilding Leafs team.
Julien didn't want Kessel and vice-versa, Kessel publicly stated he and Ron Wilson never really talked much, Carlyle stated he gave players like Kessel leeway and mentioned Bobby Ryan from his days in Anaheim who he did the same with (note how we never really mentioned Getzlaf/Perry because those guys didn't need to be taught what to do or given leeway).
Kessel is great for PPG but he just has to be left alone. He is what he is...a very very talented scorer who should be a hired gun on a complete team as opposed to a guy you build around.
Hunwick has been the most stabilizing defensive force for the D. Babcock want his young D to learn from him, including Rielly.
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If Corrado doesn't replace that disaster Marincin on Saturday, clearly Babs isn't interested in his services.
Don't be surprise if he plays him again. The problem with players who are not regulars is that they are not game shape. He needs to play few more games to catch up to the pace
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