Leafs in COVID Protocol Discussion

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The minority of teams are US based, if they start playing again (which they should) they are going to get through there schedules well before the Canadian teams

At this rate the Canadian teams could be 10+ games back, that's a lot of games to make up in a condensed window


Yes, but the American teams will still have to play the Canadian teams. They would only be able to finish off their schedule that were against other American teams.
 
Yes, but the American teams will still have to play the Canadian teams. They would only be able to finish off their schedule that were against other American teams.

The difference being they may play a couple of times during that couple of weeks, the Canadian teams will be play B2B and 3 games in 4 just to get done in time

That's extremely ugly from a Leaf POV
 
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The minority of teams are US based, if they start playing again (which they should) they are going to get through there schedules well before the Canadian teams

At this rate the Canadian teams could be 10+ games back, that's a lot of games to make up in a condensed window

You meant majority are US based, but they are not even spread throughout the divisions. Metro doesn't have any Canadian teams but still play against Canadian teams.

Four teams in the Atlantic have Canadian fan bases (sorry Buffalo) ...

It is going to be tough, but really comes down to whether omicron is unlike Delta. And again there are 15 days set aside for the Olympics.

Tampa Bay Lightning Schedule
8 games in the 1st. 15 days of the month. Not unusual.

So get 7 games in during the Olympic break, and then 3 more throughout the months of January, March and April.

Just takes some creativity on the part of the scheduler.
 
I can't imagine the league wants another season extended

It messes with the off-season
For sure it’s not ideal but the owners will want as many gates as possible
 
You meant majority are US based, but they are not even spread throughout the divisions. Metro doesn't have any Canadian teams but still play against Canadian teams.

Four teams in the Atlantic have Canadian fan bases (sorry Buffalo) ...

It is going to be tough, but really comes down to whether omicron is unlike Delta. And again there are 15 days set aside for the Olympics.

Tampa Bay Lightning Schedule
8 games in the 1st. 15 days of the month. Not unusual.

So get 7 games in during the Olympic break, and then 3 more throughout the months of January, March and April.

Just takes some creativity on the part of the scheduler.

They need to start playing, those postponed games need to be kept to a minimum

For a start if Canadian teams aren't going to play in Canada because of gate considerations they at least need to be playing the American teams away, even if that means they have to base themselves in the states for a period of time

We've also got our western Canada/Seattle trip to finish, we may have dates available on arenas but that doesn't mean our opponents will, especially for condensed trips like that
 
That's true but it does make me wonder how long before just getting the season done means more than those gates

Weeks yes, months? Woof

Since American teams have zero restrictions, they can pony up with revenue sharing and fill in for the Canadian teams who normally do all the heavy lifting.
 
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The minority of teams are US based, if they start playing again (which they should) they are going to get through there schedules well before the Canadian teams

At this rate the Canadian teams could be 10+ games back, that's a lot of games to make up in a condensed window

A 10+ game differential would mean 2.5-3 weeks of missed time. I think what we're seeing is just slow rolling the Canadian re-start to keep as much of the high gate receipt games on the books as possible while avoiding those no crowd games.
 
Yes, but the American teams will still have to play the Canadian teams. They would only be able to finish off their schedule that were against other American teams.

And they still have to wait for the scheduled dates to play the games. It isn't like they'll play games early to get them done, unless they completely change the schedules. But as Kiwi already pointed out there has to be unscheduled dates if they want to speed up the American teams schedule, which I doubt they'd do anyway.

Maybe Canadian teams play a few more games in April, but that would be against American teams that they couldn't get in during the Olympic break, or alternate nights. The games in Canada, would only be postponed for monetary reasons ... to get full arenas. Alberta has already set limits for capacity.
 
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Since American teams have zero restrictions, they can pony up with revenue sharing and fill in for the Canadian teams who normally do all the heavy lifting.

Maybe the NHL should just consider creating 2x expansion teams to begin play over the next 3-5 seasons? Seems like franchise values are where the cash is really made.
 
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Maybe the NHL should just consider creating 2x expansion teams to begin play over the next 3-5 seasons? Seems like franchise values are where the cash is really made.

Issue with that is not enough "good" players around to make them competitive, I think the NHL would want to avoid having teams go 8-67-5 like the Capitals did in there expansion (granted this was in 1975).

The more expansions team you add, the more watered-down the league becomes.
 
Here's a thought. It would throw the schedule makers into O.T. for a solid week, but could be done...

Postpone all games Canadian vs US teams... use the scheduling differences for US teams to play or make up games against each other, and Canadian teams play only only each other for 2-3-4 weeks, until any scheduled games for the season between all Canadian teams are completed. Then hopefully things have cooled a bit and the remaining Canada/us games can be fitted in. Some Canadian games may be half or no fans, but at least US teams are filling rinks and getting revenue without cancellations.

Like I said a scheduling nightmare, but do-able, especially with the Olympic break window to help fix things... maybe?
 
With the quaratine now reduced from 10 to 5 days, does that mean all our players except for Liljegren who got placed today can come off protocol assuming they test negative? Or do those players still need to isolate based on the original rules?

Pretty sure that applies to US cities, as it was a CDC thing. No reports of that north of the border.
 
Since American teams have zero restrictions, they can pony up with revenue sharing and fill in for the Canadian teams who normally do all the heavy lifting.

I agree with that but unfortunately the big gate bankers are the Canadian teams

She's going to be a long while before Arizona is pulling it's weight financially
 
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I agree with that but unfortunately the big gate bankers are the Canadian teams

She's going to be a long while before Arizona is pulling it's weight financially
American teams provide 65% of HRR within a few percentage points, which might change with their new TV deals. Don't forget, any CDN money needs to be converted to US as well.
 
American teams provide 65% of HRR within a few percentage points.

There's a reason there's a hold on games North of the boarder

The Leafs have a 3 and a half million dollar gate, Montreal and Vancouver are 2 and a half million

Those are massive revenue generators for the league
 
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There's a reason there's a hold on games North of the boarder

The Leafs have a 3 and a half million dollar gate, Montreal and Vancouver are 2 and a half million

Those are massive revenue generators for the league

I know, that's why the NHL is doing it, the players owe so much money, they need the league to make HRR, so every $ counts, once converted to US dollars.
 
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A 10+ game differential would mean 2.5-3 weeks of missed time. I think what we're seeing is just slow rolling the Canadian re-start to keep as much of the high gate receipt games on the books as possible while avoiding those no crowd games.

How long can you do that for though? Before it really starts messing with scheduling?

Also who knows how long this variant is going to be prevalent, it could be weeks or even months

We need to be playing our away schedule south of the boarder at the very least imo
 
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How long can you do that for though? Before it really starts messing with scheduling?

Also who knows how long this variant is going to be prevalent, it could be weeks or even months

We need to be playing our away schedule south of the boarder at the very least imo

No changes to south of border games.
 
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With Covid spiking in Canada with Omicron setting new infection rates daily, it might only be a matter of time before we see the USA/Canada border closed again ...

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Should that happen we will soon see a lot more games cancelled and a new plan to finish the season created.

That would be a much bigger problem than home attendance figures for Canadian teams.
 

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